https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...al-profiling-traumatized-by-traffic-stop.html
I guess it's okay to have drugs in your car as long as you don't speed??
I guess it's okay to have drugs in your car as long as you don't speed??
what's wrong with the justice system??
- Thread starter The "Bone" Ranger
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Whoever said anything about the court system being a search for the truth is a liar. It's not about the truth, it's about the proof. A trial is not to find if the accused did or did not break the law, it is a dissection of the evidence that brought him before the courts. Whether he did the act is inconsequential until that dissection is complete.
Judge didn't accept the cop's reasons for pulling them over. Although the cop's instincts appear to have been correct, the court didn't like it.
Personally I'd rather have ten rulings like this than one that goes the other way.
Her crying about boyfriend's ruined basketball career is a bit rich though. Maybe spend more time on the courts, and less time driving around with scales and crack???
There's a lot wrong with the justice system in Canada. This, however, is not one of those things. The fact that they throw out a charge that stemmed from a wrongful stop and search makes me happy to see the judiciary doing its job for once. Glad and proud to be a citizen of this great country. But, hey - to each his own. If you want to live in a police state, I can recommend a few places for you.
it would be safe to assume that you are all against the R.I.D.E. program then...
merely for efficiency purposes, the innocent are still stopped and questioned, would not be efficient for the cops to driving around and randomly pulling over cars
I have been around the justice system for a long time...
In our Courts, you don't get justice, you get due process... and, most often, there is huge difference between the two.
Sometimes -- more by accident than design -- justice happens.
And just to make it clear, I say it is the system not the people who are involved in it, though there are always a few bad apples involved no matter what system we are talking about.
Perry
In our Courts, you don't get justice, you get due process... and, most often, there is huge difference between the two.
Sometimes -- more by accident than design -- justice happens.
And just to make it clear, I say it is the system not the people who are involved in it, though there are always a few bad apples involved no matter what system we are talking about.
Perry
RIDE stops are legit because they are done for a valid Highway Traffic Act purpose. Random driving around and pulling cars over for a valid Highway Traffic Act purpose is just as legit as a RIDE stop. The reason it's legit is that driving is a privilege.
In this case the purpose was not a Highway Traffic Act purpose. So it has nothing to do with RIDE. It was like stopping pedestrians for racial profiling reasons. Police states may allow it. Canada does not.
thanks for making my point, being high on drugs and driving around is not acceptable, the cop found drugs on the car which conerns me someone is driving around high on drugs which is more dangerous than a drunk driver, the cop demonstrated good judgement in pinpointing such occupants
if there was any indication that the driver was high on any thing there would not have been an issue with the stop
I know what you mean but I take pride that the court tossed out the bad stop. I don't want to live in a society that stops citizens because an officer felt like it. The ends justifying the means is a slippery friggin slope....
There is no indication or evidence that either was high on drugs. The woman was driving and did not exhibit any erratic driving nor did her behaviour after the stop suggest she had consumed any drugs.
Yes, it is quite clear that either he or she or both were dealing drugs.
However, in our country we have the RIGHT not to be arbitrarily detained and to not be searched without probable cause or a warrant.
The cop's underlying reason for stopping the car was because the white girl was with a black man. That is NOT a legal reason for a traffic stop. And the subsequent search of the car that turned up the drugs was also a violation of the Charter.
I think both of these people are scumbags based on the evidence that they were found with drugs and in a manner consistent with trafficking.
However, I'd rather that a hundred of them go free to protect our society's right not to have cops being able to pull us over, or march into our house on the premise or claim they have a hunch that something is kinda off. That is a police state.
And there's a lot of opportunities for 35 year olds to break into the NBA.
I agree that the anger she expressed in the article is ridiculous and it just serves to remind everyone they were found with clear evidence of drug dealing.
In practice you would quickly regret having it work that way. It's one of those things that looks ok on paper but is oppressive in reality and wherever you find it is in places you wouldn't want to live.
I think you are agreeing with him. I think both of you (and me) prefer that charges get thrown out rather than live in a police state or where our Charter rights are infringed.
