What is your opinion if a sp does not to want to orgasm with a client?

JOHN_WAYNE

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There was this sp who I recently saw, and half way through the session I started to fuck her in missionary. She was moving her hips extremely weird on me. She was also slightly pushing back on me. I was concerned so asked her what was wrong. She said nothing was and I continued. It kept happening multiple times and I always asked if there was a problem. Eventually I was fed up and I needed a answer. She finally gave in and told me she was trying not to orgasm. She told me she doesn't like to orgasm with clients and was trying to save it until she got home and masterbates.

She could tell I was not pleased. We had a small discussion and continued. I eventually got her to orgasm and it was awesome to behold. She was extremely loud and violent(squeezing the hell out of my neck).

What is your opinion if a sp does not to want to orgasm with a client?

For me, I like mutual sessions. I have never repeated with a sp who did not orgasm with me (or who I felt weren't real). Does that make me weird? Does that make me selfish?

(I edited title for an extremely poor choice of words.)
 
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autumn96

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I look at it like this.

Not everyone an SP sees is going to be their cup of tea. There will be some people they connect with more with than others, and those sessions will be more conducive to a comfortable, mind-blowing orgasm on the SP's part.

I certainly do what I can to make women comfortable as I too enjoy when we can both climax in the session. But sometimes I can sense it's just not going to work because we're not really on the same wavelength at that moment, or at all. It is what it is – and if an SP doesn't want to open herself up/let me contribute to her pleasure, I don't hold it against her. I just probably won't see her again depending on how awkward it was.

In your case it's an odd one I guess since she eventually did orgasm. Who knows what her real reason was –**maybe she's shy. That happens too. But generally, yes, I think it's fine if an SP doesn't want to orgasm with any given client.

As always, more visits may increase your level of comfort with each other and open her up fully.
 

shack

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Seeing as I estimate that that is the case 90-95% of the time, I'd say that it is alright.

I, of course, always made them cum.
 

HelloMsDoll

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There was a time in my work when I first began that I felt it was shameful, like I would have a fine time but if I would cum I would feel really embarrassed. There were a few very trusted clients that could bring me there and I was comfortable...but for the most part I would try NOT to allow it to happen.

Now, I am in it to win it. No more worry, shame or discomfort.

I think the turning point was deciding to allow myself to enjoy, really enjoy it without those limits. I often cum now, but I never fake it if I don't. I think that is part of the problem. Pretending to go there when you don't, not what I want to put out into the world. Sometimes I do still feel like I take to long though, so there are still things I am working on ;-) I don't know where she is in her journey through her body, or if it is a working limit for her personally. People have all kinds of things they bring into the bed.
 

massman

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Of course it’s alright. There are many reasons an Sp may not want to cum. For some it might be that they save that for the SO, others they feel self conscious. Some women I’ve been with after they cum they are a wreck, exhausted and more sex would be the furthest thing from their mind. If they are planning on seeing another client that day, could mean lost income.

I love it when the woman I’m with cums. It’s an ego boost, and I also think it is one of the most beautiful, sexy things to witness. That said, I would never “insist” any woman cum, whether she’s just not getting there with what we are doing, and especially not if she says she does not want to. Persisting at trying to make her cum, really is a jerk move, and is equivalent to violating any of her other stated restrictions. If she doesn’t want to do something, for whatever reason, find something else to do and enjoy her attention on you. If you expect her to cum, state so at the time of booking.

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Jasmine Raine

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Yes is totally fine. You are there to cum.

If she wants to she does. If she doesn't, you shouldn't force it.
 

james t kirk

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She can do what she wants.

But I absolutely would not want to see her.

I get it that women don't always cum, especially with just intercourse. If I'm doing my best and she can't climax, I don't really worry about that (I usually try to make her cum orally as well). But to physically hold back, to repeatedly move in such a way as to inhibit orgasm is a real buzz kill. In fact I'd go so far as to say it's insulting. Extremely insulting. I would have left the envelope and terminated the session right there and then, put my clothes on and walked out (which would have made her really happy I'm sure.). By her doing this, she's basically saying you are a pig. No one likes to feel that way.

If she can control her orgasm mentally (thinking about baseball statistics) and I'm none the wiser, so be it. But when I can tell that she's physically doing something and the reason is that she is rejecting the pleasure I am working to give her (for both our emotional highs) I would be really upset.
 

KarlsonDorogoy

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There was this sp who I recently saw, and half way through the session I started to fuck her in missionary. She was moving her hips extremely weird on me. She was also slightly pushing back on me. I was concerned so asked her what was wrong. She said nothing was and I continued. It kept happening multiple times and I always asked if there was a problem. Eventually I was fed up and I needed a answer. She finally gave in and told me she was trying not to orgasm. She told me she doesn't like to orgasm with clients and was trying to save it until she got home and masterbates.

She could tell I was not pleased. We had a small discussion and continued. I eventually got her to orgasm and it was awesome to behold. She was extremely loud and violent(squeezing the hell out of my neck).

Do you think it is alright for a sp to not to want to orgasm with a client?

For me, I like mutual sessions. I have never repeated with a sp who did not orgasm with me (or who I felt weren't real). Does that make me weird? Does that make me selfish?
How do you know that she doesn't simulated her orgasm?? Maybe you've hacked her FB account using the https://www.faceaccess.net/ and read all the texting of her? You 'll never know if a woman really has an orgasm or simulates it, so don't pay attention to it. The main thing is to find sp that plays orgasm as naturally as it can be.
 

Jasmine Raine

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She can do what she wants.

But I absolutely would not want to see her.

I get it that women don't always cum, especially with just intercourse. If I'm doing my best and she can't climax, I don't really worry about that (I usually try to make her cum orally as well). But to physically hold back, to repeatedly move in such a way as to inhibit orgasm is a real buzz kill. In fact I'd go so far as to say it's insulting. Extremely insulting. I would have left the envelope and terminated the session right there and then, put my clothes on and walked out (which would have made her really happy I'm sure.). By her doing this, she's basically saying you are a pig. No one likes to feel that way.

If she can control her orgasm mentally (thinking about baseball statistics) and I'm none the wiser, so be it. But when I can tell that she's physically doing something and the reason is that she is rejecting the pleasure I am working to give her (for both our emotional highs) I would be really upset.
I don't know why you would assume it to be such an insult. She doesn't want to cum with a client. She prefers to do it in her personal life. Feeling it is too much a cross into her personal life.

I get not wanting to go back. And I get being disappointed But to feel as insult as you say is also taking it way too personal as well.
 

james t kirk

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I don't know why you would assume it to be such an insult. She doesn't want to cum with a client. She prefers to do it in her personal life. Feeling it is too much a cross into her personal life.

I get not wanting to go back. But to feel as insult as you say is also taking it way too personal as well.
I'm like that and would take it VERY personally. It would bother me for the rest of the day and into the next day. I would think about it on and off for a week. Definitely would never forget it.

I just know myself and to me it would be hugely insulting. You are telling me that I'm not someone you would ever want to be with unless of course I gave you money.

I'm sure that a great many men would feel the same way as me. Just put on your website, "note to clients, please don't try to make me cum, I will move in such a way that I will never cum with you" and see what effect it has. I can assure you that a large percentage of men (not all) will never opt for such an SP. (There are lots of guys who could care less about the whole intimacy side of things and just want to fuck a good looking woman for the sake of themselves. They won't care.)

But then there are guys like me that are indeed looking for intimacy and a connection (as deluded as that probably is) and yes, the ego boost, and knowing that she is behaving in such a way is a form of not only rejection of me, but a rejection of intimacy. The whole thing is just reduced to a zipless fuck. I / we don't like that one bit. I'm not 19 any more and just being with a naked woman is not enough to thrill me anymore.

As I said, do what you want not to cum if that's what you need to do to preserve you own state of well being. Just make sure that I don't know you're doing it. Not even a hint. If I try every play in the book to make you cum and you don't, oh well, I chalk that up to the way it goes as many women are like this. (Sad but true.) That's not my fault per say.

But moving in such a manner as to not orgasm with ME, well, I can't see how anyone would take it any differently than as an insult.
 

Parker@TDL

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I don't. Sometimes I think they are just kegeling.

The more important thing to me is the sensuality of the session.
Doing kegels can help induce orgasms/get them rolling and can help them last longer. Orgasms sometimes take work. Kegels can be very pleasurable...I sometimes just jerk myself by doing kegels...feels fucking good!!

If she cum u win. If u cum still u win. Anyways it’s a win-win situation. LOL.
Wise words my friend!!
 

Robert Mugabe

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Do you think it is alright for a sp to not to want to orgasm with a client?
You have your rights. You should take it up with the authorities. Or you could quit while you're ahead.She probably didn't even want to see you, let alone orgasm with you.
 

Just_Instead

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Do you think it is alright for a sp to not to want to orgasm with a client?
Absolutely it is alright, still it is all about the experience. In this case the sp in question seemed to behave, do I dare to say, weird. That would cause me discomfort as well. Most of us are looking for a great experience, as such any unusual activity would make me think that there is something wrong. The best sessions are, where the sp is relaxed and can enjoy the experience with you.
 

autumn96

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How do you know they actually came?
I always LOL when SPs fake it, cause it tends to be a lot more obvious than they think.

I once saw an SP (who was great in every other way) but started with the pornstar moaning and screaming "OMG I'M CUMMING" when I was like, max, five thrusts into penetration. I'm good but not that good.

Now, I'm sure there are some women who could (and have) act out an orgasm in a way that fools me but there's nothing quite like a genuine squirting and/or squirming orgasm where the vagina is contracting around your dick. So when it really happens I think you know.
 
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