What if Trump is a Russian Agent and there is indisputable proof?
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Trump's base will literally take up arms to defend (against) his removal from office.
It's time to identify and record his followers for when they'll be invited for de-programming in re-education camps.
There's ample precedent for it.
It's time to identify and record his followers for when they'll be invited for de-programming in re-education camps.
There's ample precedent for it.
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The FBI started investigating Trump because, in the campaign, he advocated better relations with Russia.
He got elected on that platform. Looks like the FBI was not happy that he was going against their internal narrative.
So they decided to oust him by conjuring up a conspiracy, and there is no proof as of now.
It sounds like an overthrow attempt at an elected official by unelected deep state bureaucrats. That's treason in some countries, firing squad material.
He got elected on that platform. Looks like the FBI was not happy that he was going against their internal narrative.
So they decided to oust him by conjuring up a conspiracy, and there is no proof as of now.
It sounds like an overthrow attempt at an elected official by unelected deep state bureaucrats. That's treason in some countries, firing squad material.
Trump also kissed up to the military with the hope that they would be able to protect him in the event of a “coup” (which is how he would frame any attempt to remove him from office). Problem is, Trump’s various gaffes and insults to various highly respected US military leaders has created doubts of whether he is fit for command. So if the shit does hit the fan there is no guarantee that the military would automatically follow a Trump order to stop a “coup”.
A substantial number of his base will desert him, except of course all of them on this Board who think that he is innocent and there is a witch hunt against him!!
What we really need to see is the documentation from the FBI justifying this investigation, who initiated it, which branch provided the oversight (if any), and what triggered it. And it better not be a campaign speech because if that is what it was, the new AG better buy rubber boots and a big ax and start chopping. This is a third world shit. BTW, looks like Comey lied to the President, at least three times, when he told him he was not being investigated. Food for thought.
After Ontario elected crackhead Rob's brother, I wouldn't expect Trump's supporters to desert him either.
Even if he is sent to prison.
Even if he is sent to prison.
HHHMMMMMM. They have jailed all of his buddies - lots more to come and likely Trump too.
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The only way to get rid of him is through impeachment, it will take a hell of a lot to get two thirds of the senate to go along with that. This will provide a lot of information to the public. (I hope) but i doubt it will lead to removal of the president unless the DOJ goes back on their policy they they wouldn't indict a sitting president.
You have to have a reason to impeach him. There is no reason. Now Hillary and the Clinton Foundation which Charles Ortel has described as the biggest money laundering and fraud scheme EVER. That deserves jail time. As well as the Clinton's association with human sex slave trafficking. Epstein Island. URANIUM ONE ( which I believe goes to the top of the Canadian Gov't ). All treason and the line goes right back to the British.
In 1987, when Rump was just a small time RE developer in Queens, the russians sent a limo and invited him to meet with them Find out what went on at that meeting and you will probably have your proof...
Who has brought up treason? Not even his biggest critics have called anything he did treasonous.
The judge who ruled on Flynn's actions on behalf of Trump did.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ly-mean/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8f184354b8b3
OPINION
No longer a wild conspiracy theory: The possibility of Trump as Russian agent
JARED YATES SEXTON
SPECIAL TO THE GLOBE AND MAIL
PUBLISHED 1 DAY AGO
UPDATED JANUARY 14, 2019
Jared Yates Sexton is an associate professor at Georgia Southern University. He is the author of The People Are Going to Rise Like the Waters Upon Your Shore: A Story of American Rage.
On Friday, The New York Times released a blockbuster exclusive: When U.S. President Donald Trump fired FBI director James Comey in May of 2017, law enforcement became so concerned by his behaviour that they began an investigation into whether the President was, in fact, operating as a Russian agent. The very idea of this was so fantastic and far-fetched that it wouldn’t pass muster for a cheap spy novel on sale at the airport bookstore. Surely it must be the product of a fever dream, an imagination that goes beyond the accepted limits of reality. But unfortunately this is now a real possibility, and its implausible nature is partly to blame for how long we ignored it in the first place.
In the summer of 2016, when Mr. Trump’s speeches began focusing on limiting the power of NATO and strangely obsessing over President Vladimir Putin and Russian interests, the narrative went largely unreported in the media because of its outlandishness. Even people inside the Trump campaign began wondering why the tone and focus had changed. But to consider whether a presidential candidate was under the sway of a foreign enemy was the stuff of conspiracy theory, a narrative so ridiculous it had to be fabricated.
Since then we’ve been witness to one piece of the puzzle after another: Trump officials lying about meetings with Russians, his inner circle seeking help to defeat Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, clandestine communications with spies and intelligence officials, a massive effort by Russian forces to sway the 2016 presidential election, a continued propaganda push from across the world to help Mr. Trump’s agenda, a slew of indictments and guilty pleas and, perhaps most disturbing, the experience of watching Mr. Trump stand next to Mr. Putin and take his side over the word of U.S. intelligence.
For too long we’ve allowed this to take place simply because we weren’t able to wrap our minds around the possibility of a politician or a group of people being so ruthless and lacking in principle that they might commit treasonous acts.
For too long we’ve given Mr. Trump and his associates the benefit of the doubt and the cover of incredulousness.
For too long we’ve been in denial of the real possibility.
The facts have been there for the taking: Mr. Trump asking Russia to hack Ms. Clinton in 2016. Mr. Trump changing course to assist Russia’s agenda after hackers leaked e-mails that hurt the Democrats. Mr. Trump capitulating time and time and time again to Mr. Putin, a disgusting performance that can only be considered an act of infidelity.
Mr. Trump’s behaviour has not been strange. It’s not been outlandish or puzzling. It’s been a living and breathing narrative on our television screens. We have seen a man who plausibly shoulders a debt that may require him to be obedient and necessitate submission of our national goals and character.
This is, above all, a very real and very dangerous crisis. The time to wring our hands and hide behind faith and disbelief are over. To fully counter this possible betrayal we must look it dead in the face and begin to change our perception of what is feasible. Mr. Trump has capitalized on the good faith of the American people. In order to start healing, we must accept that, with this administration, with this group, with this movement that Mr. Trump embodies, almost anything is possible.
As Americans, we find ourselves on the precipice of an incredible abyss. Watching Mr. Trump harness the worst of our instincts to win the presidency was a moment of shock and panic that laid bare for the world our deepest-rooted faults and wounds. So many were surprised because they believed in the moral arc and trajectory of the country, as if it would always do the right thing and progress toward a better union. That hope is predicated on good faith, but is unfortunately divorced from reality.
We have all been witnesses. The possibility that the President of the United States is working for Russia is now real – and it may have worked because Americans wanted to believe in the best of people and the strength of our institutions. To return to that hope, to set that trajectory right again, we must stare the possibility of our failure in the face and name it. We simply cannot afford to look away any longer.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-no-longer-a-wild-conspiracy-theory-the-possibility-of-trump-as/
No longer a wild conspiracy theory: The possibility of Trump as Russian agent
JARED YATES SEXTON
SPECIAL TO THE GLOBE AND MAIL
PUBLISHED 1 DAY AGO
UPDATED JANUARY 14, 2019
Jared Yates Sexton is an associate professor at Georgia Southern University. He is the author of The People Are Going to Rise Like the Waters Upon Your Shore: A Story of American Rage.
On Friday, The New York Times released a blockbuster exclusive: When U.S. President Donald Trump fired FBI director James Comey in May of 2017, law enforcement became so concerned by his behaviour that they began an investigation into whether the President was, in fact, operating as a Russian agent. The very idea of this was so fantastic and far-fetched that it wouldn’t pass muster for a cheap spy novel on sale at the airport bookstore. Surely it must be the product of a fever dream, an imagination that goes beyond the accepted limits of reality. But unfortunately this is now a real possibility, and its implausible nature is partly to blame for how long we ignored it in the first place.
In the summer of 2016, when Mr. Trump’s speeches began focusing on limiting the power of NATO and strangely obsessing over President Vladimir Putin and Russian interests, the narrative went largely unreported in the media because of its outlandishness. Even people inside the Trump campaign began wondering why the tone and focus had changed. But to consider whether a presidential candidate was under the sway of a foreign enemy was the stuff of conspiracy theory, a narrative so ridiculous it had to be fabricated.
Since then we’ve been witness to one piece of the puzzle after another: Trump officials lying about meetings with Russians, his inner circle seeking help to defeat Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, clandestine communications with spies and intelligence officials, a massive effort by Russian forces to sway the 2016 presidential election, a continued propaganda push from across the world to help Mr. Trump’s agenda, a slew of indictments and guilty pleas and, perhaps most disturbing, the experience of watching Mr. Trump stand next to Mr. Putin and take his side over the word of U.S. intelligence.
For too long we’ve allowed this to take place simply because we weren’t able to wrap our minds around the possibility of a politician or a group of people being so ruthless and lacking in principle that they might commit treasonous acts.
For too long we’ve given Mr. Trump and his associates the benefit of the doubt and the cover of incredulousness.
For too long we’ve been in denial of the real possibility.
The facts have been there for the taking: Mr. Trump asking Russia to hack Ms. Clinton in 2016. Mr. Trump changing course to assist Russia’s agenda after hackers leaked e-mails that hurt the Democrats. Mr. Trump capitulating time and time and time again to Mr. Putin, a disgusting performance that can only be considered an act of infidelity.
Mr. Trump’s behaviour has not been strange. It’s not been outlandish or puzzling. It’s been a living and breathing narrative on our television screens. We have seen a man who plausibly shoulders a debt that may require him to be obedient and necessitate submission of our national goals and character.
This is, above all, a very real and very dangerous crisis. The time to wring our hands and hide behind faith and disbelief are over. To fully counter this possible betrayal we must look it dead in the face and begin to change our perception of what is feasible. Mr. Trump has capitalized on the good faith of the American people. In order to start healing, we must accept that, with this administration, with this group, with this movement that Mr. Trump embodies, almost anything is possible.
As Americans, we find ourselves on the precipice of an incredible abyss. Watching Mr. Trump harness the worst of our instincts to win the presidency was a moment of shock and panic that laid bare for the world our deepest-rooted faults and wounds. So many were surprised because they believed in the moral arc and trajectory of the country, as if it would always do the right thing and progress toward a better union. That hope is predicated on good faith, but is unfortunately divorced from reality.
We have all been witnesses. The possibility that the President of the United States is working for Russia is now real – and it may have worked because Americans wanted to believe in the best of people and the strength of our institutions. To return to that hope, to set that trajectory right again, we must stare the possibility of our failure in the face and name it. We simply cannot afford to look away any longer.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-no-longer-a-wild-conspiracy-theory-the-possibility-of-trump-as/
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Mueller: Manafort worked with alleged Russian agent even after criminal charges
Former Trump campaign chief started communicating with Konstantin Kilimnik on plan for future of Ukraine in 2016
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