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What if there was no vaccine? My two cents

lessjamie7

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What if there was no vaccine?

Every action and reaction to deal with the Coronavirus fallout since the outbreak in March 2020, has been tempered with a potential vaccine looming on the horizon just a scant year into the future.

Imagine you are waiting for the bus in minus 30 temperatures and there is no shelter but the schedule has a bus arriving in just 8 minutes, knowing that in 8 minutes you will be in a warm comfortable place makes the conditions which you are waiting under much more tolerable, because there is an end to your discomfort just minutes away, so, you tough it out.

What if you found out the bus wasn’t coming?

What if there was no vaccine?

How long would we be in lockdown? How deep would we let the cut get that sees our businesses covering their windows in newspapers? How long would it take for the Canadian government to start building facilities specifically for treating victims of the virus for which there is no vaccine. How long before the government stopped banging the drum that our medical facilities are overloaded and actually do something to change or increase the facilities instead of threatening people to stay in their basements.

How long can people stay in their basements? and considering that seems to be the primary resolve that the government is clinging to who can we look to for more sensible long-term solutions?

I haven’t heard of one strategic plan that deals with the bus not coming. Considering this is a possible future and Corona is mutating shouldn’t we be laying out the framework that gives us comfort in knowing there is at least a plan?

Where is the military in all this? Haven’t we invested billions in military infrastructure? Mel Lastman activated the military after a fucking snowstorm shouldn’t this situation see triage units being set up across the country? Triage units that deal with all Corona patients keeping them out of pre-existing medical facilities? That would allow for our medical facilities to deal with the world and its population that has not changed, people are still having heart surgeries and breaking legs why are we intermingling the two? They should by now be completely disconnected, hospitals operating as they always have, and triage outposts dealing strictly with Corona.

Look how fast China built massive facilities for treating just Corona victims, what has the Canadian government done?

Allowing the economy to struggle along despite the virus would generate the money to build facilities treating just Corona victims until they are not needed, it would limit small business collapse, it would generate the revenue to sustain those medical facilities as we move into an uncertain future so at least there is the pre-existing infrastructure to deal with whatever tomorrow may bring and in doing so minimize the damage to our economy giving people reassurance and comfort in knowing the best we can do is what we are doing instead of what is happening right now.

What the government is doing now? As far as I can see, is creating a wasteland, making the worst of a bad situation, filling people unnecessarily with fear and desperation, destroying our economy, and eroding the confidence people deserve to have knowing that the fucking bus is coming.

LJ
 

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I have been asking these questions in my brain since the first lockdowns.

It’s looking like the system needs to break before people start accepting corona virus as the new reality. By this I mean collapse of economy, mass evictions, rioting, violence etc.

Right now nothing will change and it’s like trying to bandage a crumbling dam with epoxy injections.

A potential solution is accept corona virus and any serious virus as a new reality. Use rapid testing techniques and programs, use masks and social distancing techniques as appropriate, avoid lockdowns, separate all serious infections diseases with a specific r number into separate off site hospitals that are modular and expandable. Just ask army for this technology if you don’t know how todo it. Use empty warehouses and gymnasiums in breakouts to build these remote hospitals. Fabricate all PPE and equipment necessary and stockpile. Generate a program where you pay frontline first responders a premium such as 3x the regular salary. Open it to retired nurses. Train people who are somewhat qualified like PSWs and the like. Generate a pool of people. With the right money they are willing to come.

Avoid blind ignorant lockdowns at any cost.

Here are some great rapid testing tech covered in this podcast and they don’t advocate for lockdowns.


Sometimes shit needs to break before it gets better. Our politicians are too fing stubborn and capable of seeing the big picture and a solution.

Thinking and attitude that exists in people like Elon Musk can find a solution. Problem is these politicians and “experts” think their field is the most dominant and they know everything. What we need is an expert of the experts. Someone who can see the big picture, understand all the fields and experts, foresee the different possibilities and have the ability to make the most ethical decisions.
 
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What if there was no vaccine?

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How long would we be in lockdown? How deep would we let the cut get that sees our businesses covering their windows in newspapers? How long would it take for the Canadian government to start building facilities specifically for treating victims of the virus for which there is no vaccine. How long before the government stopped banging the drum that our medical facilities are overloaded and actually do something to change or increase the facilities instead of threatening people to stay in their basements.
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Where is the military in all this? Haven’t we invested billions in military infrastructure? Mel Lastman activated the military after a fucking snowstorm shouldn’t this situation see triage units being set up across the country? Triage units that deal with all Corona patients keeping them out of pre-existing medical facilities? That would allow for our medical facilities to deal with the world and its population that has not changed, people are still having heart surgeries and breaking legs why are we intermingling the two? They should by now be completely disconnected, hospitals operating as they always have, and triage outposts dealing strictly with Corona.

Look how fast China built massive facilities for treating just Corona victims, what has the Canadian government done?


That is the most intelligent plan I have heard of since COVID began.
 

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If no vaccine,we would have to let it run its course. Death percentage is statistically insignificant for humanity as a whole. It would be difficult for us to stomach as we have become sooo soft
 

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Other major element that can get us out of this mess is rapid self testing and.... tracing.

Hello big brother but the day we can test our self very quickly (result in under 15 minutes) and all or acquaintance of the past 10 days automatically warned via their phone if we test positive we can definitely beat the spreading. Remember when one person does not infect more then one other the virus cannot propagate enough. Virus, like human, wants to live and replicate.
 
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Examples of blind ignorant lockdowns and the fall out this is generating....

These are key indicators the system is falling apart.

They are generating hate for the police from both sides (criminals and the common class) when it’s the ignorant politicians pawning them and making the police do these crazy acts and take the blame like puppets being mastered by the ignorant politicians.

There is serious damage to this type of ignorant reaction. You guys can ignore it and pretend the lockdowns are working but they are not and this is only the tip of the ice berg.


“It has been reported that the man illegally arrested & assaulted by police in this video has committed suicide.

My condolences. I invite the family to contact me and we will sue the police on their behalf. That will not bring him back; but perhaps it will stop more brutality.”




“Police forcefully broke up a 6 person gathering in Outaouais region, Quebec Canada.”


Wake up people before it is too late. Figure out where the problems are at the root and hold the ones taking inaction and abdicating their responsibilities to the public accountable. You are part of this if you sit on the sidelines and hope for a Hail Mary from the vaccine that will not come and support blind lockdowns while ignoring the real damage it is creating.
 
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Other major element that can get us out of this mess is rapid self testing and.... tracing.

Hello big brother but the day we can test our self very quickly (result in under 15 minutes) and all or acquaintance of the past 10 days automatically warned via their phone if we test positive we can definitely beat the spreading. Remember when one person does not infect more then one other the virus cannot propagate enough. Virus, like human, wants to live and replicate.
The have this already available and cost a few dollars to manufacture. Just listen to that podcast I quoted above. Michael Mina explains exactly how these work, how they can be applied to self test in minutes and stop contagion. Government should be giving out these tests for free.
 
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