Yes, they always seem to have a lot of classified ads in the papers. For the longest time, I was like, "What's a tool and dye maker?" LOL
What field would you encourage someone to pursue in Toronto? In Canada overall?
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Yes, they always seem to have a lot of classified ads in the papers. For the longest time, I was like, "What's a tool and dye maker?" LOL
Sort of two different questions.As for people recommending trade skills, is it really that in demand? I can see it for med/large projects, but for small stuff I see lots of people doing Youtube and fixing it themselves.
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There is a shortage of good skills trade people. My company took forever trying to find a tool and die guy to replace the 70 year old we had. The old guy stayed on years longer than he had thought because with a lack of anyone good, we just kept offering him raises to stay on. About 5 years and a couple failed attempts to find a competent replacement.
The general contractor stuff is more about time and confidence. When faced with the time to learn and the confidence in doing a good job, many people will just choose to hire someone. I remember taking a book out of the library in the early 90's to help a buddy fix his volkswagon. Yet with all that information available, how many people even change their own oil (I have done it but admit I usually don't)?
I am going to assume the following (but I am now a lawyer, so please correct me):Why not lawyer?
- If ya don't have money to pay for an education, you'll come out of university with a lot of debt.
- Bay Street Lawyers do indeed make lots of money, but the amount of work and shit they have to put up with is immense. It really is one job where the high wages do not justify the work and stress that goes into it.
- Other lawyers like criminal, real estate, family general corporate - there is a lot of competition out there so it is challenging to make a really good living. Also, especially for criminal and family most clients don't expect to be needing those services and often can't afford them, or may not pay their bills once service is rendered. Also in those fields you're generally not dealing with the most upstanding of people to begin with, nor dealing with people in good situations. It can take a toll.
Perry - I've always respected you... let me know if I'm on the mark here.
Lawyer is a bad choice, it is way too competitive now. Good lawyers make a lot of money but a lot of lawyers don't, compared to the amount of hard work. One of those fields where the top tier get stupidly rich and create a misleading impression about the average outcome.Lawyer or accountant. Lawyer if they want to make more money but turn into an asshole. Accountant if they want to make a good living but work their ass off to do so.
Accountants are in danger of being outsourced soon. Some guy in India can learn the Canadian tax code and prepare everything for a fraction of the cost of av accountant in Toronto.
You want to focus on careers that benefit from a physical presence, face to face interaction. That is why doctors and truck drivers are set, you can outsource some things but ultimately you can't outsource a physical examination or physically transporting a load of groceries.
Trades are good if the economy is.
In finance and accounting the focus in Toronto is shifting to planners and others who benefit from face to face meeting with the customer, so called "front office" jobs.
Ontario has a huge shortage of tool and dye makers/designers, that's the field to get into.
I had two credits in dye design when the Harris education cuts bit. Humber College dropped the program, it was too challenging. Never mind that the quality of its graduates earned HC respect. Luckly when Guelph U took over the school they restored the program - unfortunately it's too late for me.
Maybe designers, but make sure you learn about 3D printing as this trade is a shoo in to get wiped out by new tech.
School teacher as you are in at 8:45 out by 3:15, 3 months off in the summer, union protection, gold plated pension and basically you're really an expensive baby sitter.
Ok enough of the sarcasm, for anyone in southern Ontario this is one field I would stay away from simply because you cannot even get on a substitute teacher list on any boards in the region, there are people who graduated 5 or 6 years ago still waiting to get on that list. Sure there are jobs in northern Ontario, Native reserves, Western provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan and teaching internationally (which is what I choose to do but not because of lack of work), this is one field I would warn any young person to stay away from, and guys let's please not have this thread turn into a JohnLarue "them spoiled brats, fire them all and replaced with volunteers" war.
Ok enough of the sarcasm, for anyone in southern Ontario this is one field I would stay away from simply because you cannot even get on a substitute teacher list on any boards in the region, there are people who graduated 5 or 6 years ago still waiting to get on that list. Sure there are jobs in northern Ontario, Native reserves, Western provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan and teaching internationally (which is what I choose to do but not because of lack of work), this is one field I would warn any young person to stay away from, and guys let's please not have this thread turn into a JohnLarue "them spoiled brats, fire them all and replaced with volunteers" war.
School teachers is one I forgot but indeed god pay, good holidays and the benfits.School teacher as you are in at 8:45 out by 3:15, 3 months off in the summer, union protection, gold plated pension and basically you're really an expensive baby sitter.
Ok enough of the sarcasm, for anyone in southern Ontario this is one field I would stay away from simply because you cannot even get on a substitute teacher list on any boards in the region, there are people who graduated 5 or 6 years ago still waiting to get on that list. Sure there are jobs in northern Ontario, Native reserves, Western provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan and teaching internationally (which is what I choose to do but not because of lack of work), this is one field I would warn any young person to stay away from, and guys let's please not have this thread turn into a JohnLarue "them spoiled brats, fire them all and replaced with volunteers" war.
Only thing it's bias towards Females as all males are potential pedophiles in society and School board's eyes.
Anything in the medical field some easier than others.
The easier ones like dental hygienists are bias towards females while males are left with harder choices along with the higher achievement females.
Trades are good especially if you are younger and you can pretty much own your own business along the way.
Accountants are good especially if you intend to own your own business as well or migrate to the US where there is a shortage.
True, but its crazy stupid that the people that build and maintain civilization don't get the respect that they deserve.Not everyone wants to be a trades person, even if they pay well, since there is not much status attached to them.
I was talking to a couple of pharmacology graduates a while back, I told them that they are the luckiest people but they did not seem to know it. I told them that they were in a job that was high demand and the demand is growing as the population ages. It is a 9-5 job with no worries @ $150,000 a year. They can have an adventure and work as a pharmacist up north for the government for double that or make $150k in a 6 month stint. Depending on how they play it they can set themselves up within 5 years with house, property and savings if they do not spend wildly.
The life of a pharmacist is 9-5 and no worries with excellent pay.
The life of a pharmacist is 9-5 and no worries with excellent pay.
I think people value the work they do, but not the presentation.True, but its crazy stupid that the people that build and maintain civilization don't get the respect that they deserve.
Nobody expects a plumber to come to your home wearing a suit and tie. But let's face it. If you compare the appearance, etiquette and mannerisms of someone working in an office, a store at the mall, or even high school McDonalds kids compared to a tradesman or contractor, the latter seem a lot sloppier.
A good portion of them won't even take off their boots or ask if they can wear them in the house as they check out the repair. They just walk in and don't give a shit if they get dirt on your floors or rug.
It's interesting that in this entire thread, not a single poster mentioned anything about STEM fields (i.e. science, technology, engineering, math), except for Ceiling Cat's post about pharmacology/pharmacy students.
Actually that is true....a friend of mine is an MLT (Medical Laboratory Technologist), and I think you can still do this with a college diploma. They are coming into demand due to retirement. After a few years, they make about 75KIt's interesting that in this entire thread, not a single poster mentioned anything about STEM fields (i.e. science, technology, engineering, math), except for Ceiling Cat's post about pharmacology/pharmacy students.
Realistically most people will find it difficult to compete in these fields. They're in high demand and pay well, but competition is also fierce. It's as though we've collectively given up on these and expect that such specialties are the domain of genius foreigners.It's interesting that in this entire thread, not a single poster mentioned anything about STEM fields (i.e. science, technology, engineering, math), except for Ceiling Cat's post about pharmacology/pharmacy students.
I was looking at the Sunshine list and very few pharmacists are in the $150,000+ range.I was talking to a couple of pharmacology graduates a while back, I told them that they are the luckiest people but they did not seem to know it. I told them that they were in a job that was high demand and the demand is growing as the population ages. It is a 9-5 job with no worries @ $150,000 a year. They can have an adventure and work as a pharmacist up north for the government for double that or make $150k in a 6 month stint. Depending on how they play it they can set themselves up within 5 years with house, property and savings if they do not spend wildly.
The life of a pharmacist is 9-5 and no worries with excellent pay.
Could it be that you are talking about private sector gigs? If so, where? My niece is a pharmacist and is making $85,000 a year. I believe she graduated about 5 years ago. Just curious, because maybe she should leave her hospital gig.
The big money with pharmacy is working as one while owning a drug store at the same time.I was looking at the Sunshine list and very few pharmacists are in the $150,000+ range.
Could it be that you are talking about private sector gigs? If so, where? My niece is a pharmacist and is making $85,000 a year. I believe she graduated about 5 years ago. Just curious, because maybe she should leave her hospital gig.
I know several pharmacist and they are all in the $150k range. I know a pharmacist couple and they both make in the range of $150k each. They also take government gigs in the far north where you can make double the money. Pharmacist that are starting out and work under a Sr. pharmacist make less. Institutional pharmacist like in hospitals or prisons make less because the workload is not as much as in a pharmacy in a mall.I was looking at the Sunshine list and very few pharmacists are in the $150,000+ range.
Could it be that you are talking about private sector gigs? If so, where? My niece is a pharmacist and is making $85,000 a year. I believe she graduated about 5 years ago. Just curious, because maybe she should leave her hospital gig.
