What do we REALLY know about Covid-19?

[Tomoreno]

In February, Covid was declared a pandemic. We were told to stay home if possible and then it became a mandate. Many businesses were shut down with more to follow. Only essential businesses were allowed to operate. Then, Doug Ford announced a list of essential services and nearly every business was deemed essential.
At first we were told masks aren't effective, then we were told we must wear them. Social distancing, 6 feet! Who came up with 6? Why not 5 or 7?
Dr. Fauci is one confused fella it'd seem who often forgot to wear a mask when socializing.
Doug Ford went on a rant calling people stupid and braindead for not staying home, not wearing masks or socializing. Then his MPP was seen at a gathering of 50 people and all who attended were without masks. No fines or arrests.
How did Mr. Ford respond?
"Well, he's a good man who made a mistake. He promised it'll never happen again and I believe him".
Why is it that people who tell us what we must do to stay safe aren't too concerned about this deadly virus?
Unless you're wearing N-95 mask, all other masks are fairly obsolete at protecting from a virus. Many people wear cloth masks and very few wash or disinfect them. And how about those clear plastic masks that resemble a muzzle? Wtf do those do??
Many, it seems, pick and choose what rules apply and when.
Birthday party? Cops come, ticket you.
Protesting? Hundreds and thousands gathering? Cops will not say a word and instead will esort you.
Some assume they will be safe wearing a mask and not doing LFK/DFK when meeting SP.

Do we really know something or simply assume that we do because experts tell us?

 

[jcpro]

In February, Covid was declared a pandemic. We were told to stay home if possible and then it became a mandate. Many businesses were shut with more to follow. Only essential businesses were allowed to operate. Then, Doug Ford announced a list of essential services and nearly every business was deemed essential.
At first we were told masks aren't effective, then we were told we must wear them. Social distancing, 6 feet! Who came up with 6? Why not 5 or 7?
Dr. Fauci is one confused fella it'd seem who often forgot to wear a mask when socializing.
Doug Ford went on a rant calling people stupid and braindead for not staying home, not wearing masks or socializing. Then his MPP was seen at a gathering of 50 people and all who attended were without masks. No fines or arrests.
How did Mr. Ford respond?
"Well, he's a good man who made a mistake. He promised it'll never happen again and I believe him".
Why is it that people who tell us what we must do to stay safe aren't too concerned about this deadly virus?
Unless you're wearing N-95 mask, all other masks are fairly obsolete at protecting from a virus. Many people wear cloth masks and very few wash or disinfect them. And how about those clear plastic masks that resemble a muzzle? Wtf do those do??
Many, it seems, pick and choose what rules apply and when.
Birthday party? Cops come, ticket you.
Protesting? Hundreds and thousands gathering? Cops will not say a word and instead will esort you.
Some assume they will be safe wearing a mask and not doing LFK/DFK when meeting SP.

Do we really know something or simply assume that we do because experts tell us?

The response to any life threatening situation, including this, is almost always based on fear. That's not an opinion, that's just evolution. Our collective response to Covid is based on the threat to our lives. What we do know for sure is that, outside of the certain age group, Covid is pretty much harmless and the rules violations are based on that. Our governments and their cheerleaders haven't figured out yet that people will not cooperate unless they're convinced that their own asses are on the line. Hence, in a real crisis, when a loaded bus pulls in to a stop, citizens who trust the government's expertise and fear the virus DO NOT ENTER. But, that only was the case in spring. As the pandemic narrative progressed, the people made their own determinations, greatly helped by the government's waffling and often contradictory positions of the "experts". And here we are, today.

 

[Tomoreno]

You're absolutely right about fear. It will turn an intelligent human being into an animal.
The virus is out there. We're social creatures and being away from people for days and months isn't really an acceptable option anymore. Covid-19 will spread, nothing can change that.
Masks, social distancing, sanitizing will not curb the spread.
You could be in a store picking up a box of cereal that someone with Covid sneezed on. It could be anything else, like a bottle of wine or Gray Goose or a gas pump or mechanic coughing inside your car etc.
Most of us have spouses/partners, kids, friends, co-workers etc. Unless you live on a remote farm and able to feed self, you'll come in contact with multiple people throughout a day. What makes us think that someone from our household isn't capable of bringing virus home?
The truth is - we can't control the spread, can't control people close to us.
There's only 1 thing we can control!
You can control You!
Apparently, as one study found, most people with Covid-19 had Vitamin D and Zinc deficiency.
So here's my advice to anyone willing to listen:
Don't wait for shit to happen and take care of yourself now as a preventative measure.
Eat healthy. Don't smoke. Try to exercise. Take vitamins like D3, B complex, Fish oil, Zinc, Vitamic C (just a couple Kiwi per day) and whatever else one might be missing.
Stick to brands like AOR, Metagenics or Genestra. Can't go wrong with either one.
Trying to maintain good immune system is the only thing one can do until there's a vaccine or enough people with immunity to Covid-19.

 

[luvyeah]

CHYNA VIRUS!

 

[danmand]

https://www.ucsf.edu/magazine/covid-body

 

[lenny2]

At first we were told masks aren't effective, then we were told we must wear them.

To err is human. Only God gets it right 100% of the time.

"Thankfully we didn't have amateurs like you who didn't even know what "herd immunity" means running the show. How much worse off we'd be now! If the covidiots, hoax advocates, conspiracy nut jobs, C-19's existence deniers, or anti extreme safety measures (lockdowns, masks, etc) people were in charge we'd have over 10 million dead already instead of a small fraction of that."

"this is the process intelligent people follow.

When there is new information, or the understanding of a situation evolves, intelligent people modify their opinions and advice. AKA "change their minds".

Others who are threatened by their own fear and insecurity that they may be wrong, doggedly stick to their original position and find excuses to justify
their inability to learn from new information."

"Unfortunately ignorant, loud and irrational people can not understand or interpret these facts properly because they are blinded by their own selfish wants/gains or guided by their political agenda."

 

[Tomoreno]

To err is human. Only God gets it right 100% of the time.

"Thankfully we didn't have amateurs like you who didn't even know what "herd immunity" means running the show. How much worse off we'd be now! If the covidiots, hoax advocates, conspiracy nut jobs, C-19's existence deniers, or anti extreme safety measures (lockdowns, masks, etc) people were in charge we'd have over 10 million dead already instead of a small fraction of that."

"this is the process intelligent people follow.

When there is new information, or the understanding of a situation evolves, intelligent people modify their opinions and advice. AKA "change their minds".

Others who are threatened by their own fear and insecurity that they may be wrong, doggedly stick to their original position and find excuses to justify
their inability to learn from new information."

"Unfortunately ignorant, loud and irrational people can not understand or interpret these facts properly because they are blinded by their own selfish wants/gains or guided by their political agenda."

I'm glad you're an intelligent person. Good for you!

All I was pointing out is the fact that intelligent people who run the show, like yourself, tell us the rules and then break them. Very inconsistent with how this virus is treated.

And you assumed I know or don't know something. You also assumed that what you know from your sources is actual and true. Suppose intelligent people do that.

 

[lenny2]

All I was pointing out is the fact that intelligent people who run the show, like yourself, tell us the rules and then break them.

No, some do, some don't.

So what? You're a sinner, too!

To err is human. Only God is perfect.

And you assumed I know or don't know something.

No, i didn't. I quoted some stuff. If the shoe fits, wear it.

 

[Tomoreno]

Your reply started with: "Thankfully we didn't have amateurs like you who didn't even know what "herd immunity" means running the show."

If that's not an assumption, what is it?

And by the way, exactly what part of my statements do you disagree with, Mr. Intelligent?

I'm entitled to an opinion just as you're entitled to yours. If you disagree with something, please provide facts, not some random number of 10 million people if could've should've.

 

[shack]

All I was pointing out is the fact that intelligent people who run the show, like yourself, tell us the rules and then break them.

But they are not RULES. They are recommendations based on the latest scientific information. More and more information is presented to the public/gov'ts on a daily basis. This is a new virus that is being studied to death, so only somebody who has no concept of how this works would expect that what we knew in March would be the same today and the same with the recommendations.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

This is a new virus that is being studied to death, so only somebody who has no concept of how this works would expect that what we knew in March would be the same today and the same with the recommendations

They already knew back in March this virus was highly contagious and transmissible between person to person, so what more do they know now that they didnt know back in March in your opinion??

 

[Tomoreno]

But they are not RULES. They are recommendations based on the latest scientific information. More and more information is presented to the public/gov'ts on a daily basis. This is a new virus that is being studied to death, so only somebody who has no concept of how this works would expect that what we knew in March would be the same today and the same with the recommendations.

Not rules, but Recommendations??
Really?
People MUST wear masks because it's a recommendation?
And you don't get fined $1000 or more for breaking recommendations!

 

[doggystyle99]

But they are not RULES. They are recommendations based on the latest scientific information. More and more information is presented to the public/gov'ts on a daily basis. This is a new virus that is being studied to death, so only somebody who has no concept of how this works would expect that what we knew in March would be the same today and the same with the recommendations.

It truly amazes me that 11 months into a pandemic that we've never seen before people are still not understanding new information has been learned from what we first knew in December, February, or March or even possibly what we know now until another month down the road. Yes COVID-19 is a new virus.
Although these things have been repeated 1,763,800,799 times some very few people AKA "Stable Genius's" still have not understood the effects that masks, shutdowns, or social distancing and the need for contact tracing will have on reducing the rate of transmission and limiting the spread of the Coronavirus.
It's like they've been living under a rock and repeating the same question over and over although the answers have been repeated to them numerous times. "Stable Genius's" I tell you.

 

[Tomoreno]

COVID-19, which is caused by the new coronavirus, has been dominating the news lately. However, you may have first become familiar with the term coronavirus during the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) outbreak in 2003.
Both COVID-19 and SARS are caused by coronaviruses. The virus that causes SARS is known as SARS-CoV, while the virus that causes COVID-19 is known as SARS-CoV-2. There are also other types of human coronaviruses.
Despite their similar name, there are several differences between the coronaviruses that cause COVID-19 and SARS.

What is a coronavirus?

Coronaviruses are a very diverse family of viruses. They have a large host range, which includes humans. However, the greatest amount of coronavirus diversity is seen in bats.
Coronaviruses have spiky projections on their surface that look like crowns. Corona means “crown” in Latin — and that’s how this family of viruses got their name.
Most of the time, human coronaviruses cause mild respiratory illnesses like the common cold. In fact, four types of human coronaviruses cause 10 to 30 percent of upper respiratory tract infections in adults.
A new type of coronavirus can emerge when an animal coronavirus develops the ability to transmit a disease to humans. When germs are transmitted from an animal to a human, it’s called zoonotic transmission.
Coronaviruses that make the jump to human hosts can cause serious illness. This can be due to a variety of factors, particularly humans’ lack of immunity to the new virus. Here are some examples of such coronaviruses:

• SARS-CoV, the virus that caused SARS, which was first identified in 2003
• MERS-CoV, the virus that caused Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), which was first identified in 2012
• SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, which was first identified in 2019

Not really a new virus.

Our Smart ones never studied the virus enough or made a vaccine for it.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

It truly amazes me that 11 months into a pandemic that we've never seen before people are still not understanding new information has been learned from what we first knew in December, February, or March or even possibly what we know now until another month down the road. Yes it's a new virus.
Although these things have been repeated 1,763,800,799 times some very few people AKA "Stable Genius's" still have not understood the effects that masks, shutdowns, or social distancing and the need for contact tracing will have on reducing the rate of transmission and limiting the spread of the Coronavirus.
It's like they've been living under a rock and repeating the same question over and over although the answers have been repeated to them numerous times. "Stable Genius's" I tell you.

Quit twisting things around, nobody here has said the first lockdown, social distancing, washing hands....etc are bad things.
They were (and some still are) necessary things to do

 

[shack]

They already knew back in March this virus was highly contagious and transmissible between person to person, so what more do they know now that they didnt know back in March in your opinion??

Actually not. Lots has changed. For example they thought back then that the virus was transmissable from surfaces. I forget the details but they have discovered differences in whether it is simply airborne or whether it is in vapour. Sorry, Phil. They did not know nearly as much in March as they do now. In the meantime, the message has been constant since April. Wear a mask.

 

[shack]

Not rules, but Recommendations??
Really?
People MUST wear masks because it's a recommendation?
And you don't get fined $1000 or more for breaking recommendations!

Totally avoided the fact that whatever you want to call it rules or recommendations, they change based on incoming data.

Wearing a seatbelt is a rule/law. If they found that wearing seatbelts causes more damage/death than no seatbelt they would change the law/rules.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Actually not. Lots has changed. For example they thought back then that the virus was transmissable from surfaces. I forget the details but they have discovered differences in whether it is simply airborne or whether it is in vapour. Sorry, Phil. They did not know nearly as much in March as they do now. In the meantime, the message has been constant since April. Wear a mask.

Thats not entirely true.
First they said masks arent necessary, then they said its better we start wearing them.
Then they passed a law making masks mandatory.
Then Dr. Tam later recants and says some masks work, while others don't.

I wont be surprised if they come out next year and admit wearing masks made little to no difference

 

[redshank]

To err is human. Only God gets it right 100% of the time.

"Thankfully we didn't have amateurs like you who didn't even know what "herd immunity" means running the show. How much worse off we'd be now! If the covidiots, hoax advocates, conspiracy nut jobs, C-19's existence deniers, or anti extreme safety measures (lockdowns, masks, etc) people were in charge we'd have over 10 million dead already instead of a small fraction of that."

"this is the process intelligent people follow.

When there is new information, or the understanding of a situation evolves, intelligent people modify their opinions and advice. AKA "change their minds".

Others who are threatened by their own fear and insecurity that they may be wrong, doggedly stick to their original position and find excuses to justify
their inability to learn from new information."

"Unfortunately ignorant, loud and irrational people can not understand or interpret these facts properly because they are blinded by their own selfish wants/gains or guided by their political agenda."

Why so many quotation marks? Are these your words or are you quoting someone?

 

[Tomoreno]

They said... the found... they suggested... They said olive oil was bad for you

People have to wear masks now and most do. No one said we shouldn't. Masks are not stopping the spead though. More and more cases every day with all measures in place. I'm not advocating for Not following guidelines. Perhaps if you read carefully, you'll actually understand what it is that i wrote.

P.S: Believe what you want to belive or who you want to believe, but chew before you swallow.