Way To Go Roy Jones!!!!

[superjohnsmooth]

I've been saying for over 5 years now that this man is the best pound for pound fighter in the world. Because of the division he is in, he's had to put up with his share of bullshit from the media. He may not have spent most of his career in the most competitive division but I'm more than pleased that he can now shut up some critics for the time being.

I hope he can beef up a bit more and stay where he is. Boxings most lucrative division is in desprate need of a shake down. And Junior just might be the man to do it.

 

[superjohnsmooth]

And he

raps. Perhaps pretending to be a thug like 90% of all other hip-hop heads these days has gotten to his head.

For a man that lacks street experience, he needs to rap about the chicken coup at his farm. That may bring him down on humble grounds again.

 

[the rusty tromb]

Congrats Roy

Roy is going to most likely drop back down to light heavyweight to fight Antonio Tarver (assuming Tarver beats Montell Griffin for the vacant IBF title). Tarver's been talking alot of shit about Roy, and Im sure Roy wants back the belt he never lost in the ring.

After that I would'int be surprised to see Roy take on the winner of the Vasilly Jirov/James Toney Cruiserweight title fight. This would give Jones another title in another weight class (which is now at 4). After last nights easy UD against a top 5-10 heavyweight, Jones would have all the confidence in the world of taking out Toney (who he already beat as a super middleweight in '94) and Jirov ( a stationary fighter who would have fits with Jones's blinding combinations).

Dont expect to see Jones take on Klitschko or Lewis. Jones knows these guys are monsters, and would more thank likely blast him out within a few rounds.

Congratulatons Roy. You're IMHO the greatest boxer of all time.

 

[gramage]

way to throw the fight Ruiz. any guy with a 6 inch longer reach who doesn't throw a single jab the whole fight is either not a professional or being paid to dive.

 

[shack]

way to throw the fight Ruiz. any guy with a 6 inch longer reach who doesn't throw a single jab the whole fight is either not a professional or being paid to dive.

I think the answer there is that Ruiz has very few skills other than clutching and hitting on the break. He fought dirty against Holyfield (who's no saint himself) and Johnson (funny that Johnson was the one who got DQ'd) and once the referee wouldn't let him do his regular thing he had nothing else in his arsenal cause he's a bum.

 

[gramage]

whats a well schooled fighter? I've never seen one.

 

[shack]

whats a well schooled fighter? I've never seen one.

That's the guy who gets a boxing scholarship from Harvard.

 

[superjohnsmooth]

I wish

Tommy Morrison was around still.

 

[the rusty tromb]

Sorry Rusty can't agree wiyh you about RJJ being the greatest boxer of all time. He's very fast and talented but I still think part of it is there really aren't any good fighters to challenge him. Like Ali, his speed lets him get away with a lot of mistakes. Can't believe he could get away with some of the stuff against a well schooled fighter with some talent.

Who's better?

It's not Roy's fault he's so good he makes everyone else look average. He's beaten everyone that has been put in front of him. He just won a portion of the heavyweight championship. He's accoomplished something that has'int been done since 1897, which is a natural middleweight capturing the heavyweight championship.

Its a shame alot of people give the same tired excuse that Jones has never faced a top notch fighter. Did'int he beat Bernard Hopkins? the same Bernard Hopkins who is the undisputed middleweight champion of the world, holds the record for middleweight defences,sent Felix Trinidad into retirement, is mentioned in the same breath as Carlos Monzon and Marvin Hagler as the greatest middlewight ever. Did'int he beat James Toney? The same James Toney that was considered the best fighter in the world in '94, until Jones beat him easily.

Roy Jones has accomplished more in the ring than any boxer past or present.

I ask you once again. Who is better?

 

[superjohnsmooth]

Mike

Tyson baby.........LOL!

On a serious note, I think the early years of Oscar De la hoya could have been some of the best years for a boxer. I may be wrong, but didn't his manager die? I think his style of high jab, low jab changed with it. There was a time where he was remarkable and untouchable.

Handsome face and all.

 

[the rusty tromb]

Oscar is a great champ, but, he's not on level with Roy. Oscar lost to Mosley and Trinidad (questionable decision,though), won a razor thin decision against Ike Quartey (alot of people think Oscar lost that fight), same scenario against a the crack head version of Pernell Whittaker.

Where as Roy has never had one fight where people questioned if he got a gift decision. Roy is the only boxer besides Floyd Mayweather to never be beaten (that BS DQ does'int count).

There is nothing Oscar does that Roy does'int do alot better. I would love to see Roy, come down to 160 and challenge Oscar to a big money PPV fight. Jones would KTFO Oscar in a round or two ( Roy does'int like Oscar, thus he would take him out early).

Face it. Nobody is on level with Roy.

 

[superjohnsmooth]

Roy is the best

pound for pound. I would never dispute that. And today's Oscar is very much weaker then the early Oscar.

A dream match would be a----1998 Roy (vs) a 1996 Oscar.

 

[the rusty tromb]

Re: Roy is the best

pound for pound. I would never dispute that. And today's Oscar is very much weaker then the early Oscar.

A dream match would be a----1998 Roy (vs) a 1996 Oscar.

Roy would beat him with ease. Oscar was having trouble with Sugar Shane's speed. What would he do against Roy? it would be a wipeout.

Its a shame Roy was'int a middlweight in the 80's, back with Marvin Hagler, John "The Beast" Mugabi, Tommy Hearns, Iran Barkley,etc. Maybe alot of you would be able to appreciate him alot more, if he was able to beat them with relative ease.

 

[superjohnsmooth]

I think Roy

would win too. I don't think it would be a walk in the park though. Don't you remeber how well Oscar countered in those days. He didn't want to hurt his pretty face and he was great at blocking.

 

[the rusty tromb]

Mr.T from Rocky III would kick Roy's ass.

Clubber Lang was a power punching heavyweight. Roy would never fight him. It would be like Roy figting Ike Ibeabuchi. Does'int make sense.

 

[the rusty tromb]

Re: I think Roy

would win too. I don't think it would be a walk in the park though. Don't you remeber how well Oscar countered in those days. He didn't want to hurt his pretty face and he was great at blocking.

I see your point, although, Oscar has never seen anything close to Roy's speed and reflexes. Roy would have hit Oscar with a crisp combo before Oscar could even get set. Would be a very short night.

Its just not a good match up for Oscar.

 

[superjohnsmooth]

Re: Re: I think Roy

I see your point, although, Oscar has never seen anything close to Roy's speed and reflexes. Roy would have hit Oscar with a crisp combo before Oscar could even get set. Would be a very short night.

Its just not a good match up for Oscar.

Remeber, Oscar would stand flat footed, and jab high and low, keeping his distance better than anyone. And Roy is more of a dance around in circles throwing hooks and upercuts. Always on an even plane.

It would be a good fight since I honestly think De la hoya had the most ultimate and composed game plan at one time.


And as for the best Rocky character. What about Ivan Drago! This mother fucker punched with 2000 lbs of impact per square inch. The Siberian Bull would first tease Roy during the first roud with an unorthodox stlyle, (like he did to Apollo) then lace Roy with a devastating flury to finish the first round. As Roy's manager comes out of his corner screaming, "this is an exibition fight, an EXIBITION FIGHT!" Drago just smiles.

We all know what happens in round 2.

 

[the rusty tromb]

Pound for pound? How about Leonard and Duran for starters.

hhehehehehehehehhehehehehe are you kidding me? Both Sugar Ray and Duran had trouble with certain styles. They both lost more than a few times.

Roy has never lost to anyone.Its sad that you diminish his accomplishments.

Just admit you dont like Roy.

You made no convincing arguments to prove SRL or Duran can touch Roy's resume.