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Cobster

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Cobster said:

This kind of reminds me of that line in the movie Syriana, where Matt Damon is talking to a sheik in some Middle Eastern country:

10 yrs ago, you people were living in tents. Now with all the oil income you're living like kings, but you're spending it faster than you are making it. You have about 15 yrs worth of oil production left, when that runs out, you'll be back living in tents......(or something to that effect).
 
I opened another thread inquiring about scooters, this just justifies it. More people should get out of their cars and use scooters, especially downtown.
 
Thanks for the tip...

LoveThemGirls said:
I opened another thread inquiring about scooters, this just justifies it. More people should get out of their cars and use scooters, especially downtown.
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I'll open a funeral parlor to handle the carnage and then be able to pay for the gas.
 
tboy said:
This kind of reminds me of that line in the movie Syriana, where Matt Damon is talking to a sheik in some Middle Eastern country:

10 yrs ago, you people were living in tents. Now with all the oil income you're living like kings, but you're spending it faster than you are making it. You have about 15 yrs worth of oil production left, when that runs out, you'll be back living in tents......(or something to that effect).

Yep, I think that's pretty much verbatim.
So true though.
 
I'd say the oil business is followed closely by the auto mfg. industry since they are so closely tied together. Neither really wants anyone to get off the oil teat.

For eg: the GM electric car (aka Ed Begley Jr's car). GM HALTED production and destroyed all the cars (except one) instead of going into mass production even tho people in Cali were BEGGING for them and PROTESTING thier immenient destruction. GM's reasoning behind it was that making electric or hybrid vehicles was a no profit situation even tho Honda, Toyota and others seem to have made a go of it....
 
tboy said:
I'd say the oil business is followed closely by the auto mfg. industry since they are so closely tied together. Neither really wants anyone to get off the oil teat.

For eg: the GM electric car (aka Ed Begley Jr's car). GM HALTED production and destroyed all the cars (except one) instead of going into mass production even tho people in Cali were BEGGING for them and PROTESTING thier immenient destruction. GM's reasoning behind it was that making electric or hybrid vehicles was a no profit situation even tho Honda, Toyota and others seem to have made a go of it....

The people in California raised funds (think it was $1 million plus) to buy them back. Of course GM didn't comment or accept.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsJAlrYjGz8
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car?
 
Forgot the name of the documentary, but one guy mentioned approximately how much oil was left and he broke down how it costed companies just dollars to exude and then mentioned the cost of oil per barrel and mentioned some insanely astronomical number of how much profit there was left for these guys.
I don't get it, how much i$ enough???:confused:
 
tboy said:
GM's reasoning behind it was that making electric or hybrid vehicles was a no profit situation even tho Honda, Toyota and others seem to have made a go of it....
Honda stopped making the Civic Hybrid, poor sales. These companies don't care about the environment, they care about sales. If Toyota was serious about the environment it would stop selling the Land Cruiser.

GM is coming out with the Volt which supposed to be more efficient than a hybrid.
 
Its real simple demand/supply curve at work, people.

Increasing demand for gasoline + diminishing oil supplies = higher gas prices.
 
Meister said:
If Toyota was serious about the environment it would stop selling the Land Cruiser.
Bad example, it's the few ways you can transport 6+ passages around the pothole streets of SE & rural Asia.

Only in silly N.America are LC with 1 occupant consider as status symbol.
 
Meister said:
Honda stopped making the Civic Hybrid, poor sales. These companies don't care about the environment, they care about sales. If Toyota was serious about the environment it would stop selling the Land Cruiser..

Good post, wrong conclusion - it's the CONSUMERS who don't care.
 
Esco! said:
I'm surprised the oil has lasted this long

It shouldn't be a surprise, it's piled up over a few million years.

Perhaps its subliminal lingering effect of all the doom & gloom predictions following the 70's energy crisis. In schools they kept playing documentaries with a younger Suzuki and other beards issuing dire warnings about how we would run out of energy before the end of the century if radical wholesale conservation measures weren't adopted.

In fact, Russia and the former Soviet republics in Central Asia have at least as much oil untapped underground as what has been used in the 20th century. Not mention the Americas and Africa.

There is no imminent threat of running out of oil. The real driving point for new fuels is that they are superior to oil on many levels, most significantly in the area of specific polutants. This alone is a good enough reason for a mass phase out of oil as an energy source for many purposes, leaving more of the oil to be used for other applications or stored for emergencies or military use.
 
Hard Idle said:
In schools they kept playing documentaries with a younger Suzuki and other beards issuing dire warnings about how we would run out of energy before the end of the century if radical wholesale conservation measures weren't adopted.

Hi,

I remember those documentaries. Did you know that Suzuki's light bulb is obsolete? Compact fluorescents have been superseded by newer LED light bulbs that last ten times longer and use only four watts to generate the light of a hundred watt tungsten bulb.

EU:)
 
Hard Idle said:
Good post, wrong conclusion - it's the CONSUMERS who don't care.
Combination of both really.