War with Iran

Phil C. McNasty

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I'm a baseball diehard - Dying to hear how Trump has stats resembling a Cy Young winner in business. BTW that babe, AI or real, is awesome.
Almost every successfull business person or daytrader is going to have wins and losses.
The trick is to have more wins than losses.

Trump had a few losses, but he also had a lot of wins.
In fact, he had more wins than he had losses.
Thats why he's a billionaire, and we are not.

You can dislike Trump all you want, but its unfair to deny how successfull he's been in real estate and other ventures
 

Frankfooter

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Dont think you been following my posts, I said from day one that I'm against this war
MAGA are finally leaving trump?
Though wyatt, larue and few other hardcore types will probably be the last to leave.
Eventually they will all accept I've been right all along.
Mwhahaha

Even the NYT is now posting that Israel was behind the 'protests' where thousands were supposedly killed in Iran.
 

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Almost every successfull business person or daytrader is going to have wins and losses.
The trick is to have more wins than losses.

Trump had a few losses, but he also had a lot of wins.
In fact, he had more wins than he had losses.
Thats why he's a billionaire, and we are not.

You can dislike Trump all you want, but its unfair to deny how successfull he's been in real estate and other ventures
He had a $400M head start thanks to his dad.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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He had a $400M head start thanks to his dad
He didnt have quite that much, but turning even that into $5billion+ takes skill, especially when he did in the volatile New York real estate market during the 1980's and beyond
 

Phil C. McNasty

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SchlongConery

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He didnt have quite that much, but turning even that into $5billion+ takes skill, especially when he did in the volatile New York real estate market during the 1980's and beyond
You do realize that Trump values his name at something like $3B? Not that he isn't a great grifter and a billionaire.

Which is more than I can say for myself paying for $160/hh agency girls through my buddy Andy at Mirage! Trump got blow jobs for free through his fellow billionaire buddy Jeffrey. 😜
 

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He didnt have quite that much, but turning even that into $5billion+ takes skill, especially when he did in the volatile New York real estate market during the 1980's and beyond
😂

Without the Russian mafia and Putin backstopping his Deutsche Bank line of credits and mortgages to build condos Russian money laundering units, Trump would have been biting the pillow in prison about the same time that 13 yo was biting his cock at Epstein's place.
 
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Butler1000

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You lefties have said that for the last 10 years now
It ended Carter's. What I meant be this is if he sends them in to these fortified places they will get slaughtered. I don't think that's the plan. The mountains prevent helicopter use. So its either a land behind enemy lines plan, or not at all. Maybe they think they can take and hold an airport as a foothold. Just stupid to think that.

Either this is a distraction, or its about the mountains edging Hormuz. Maybe Kharg but that is another sitting ducks scenario..

But 3000 body bags? A terrible defeat? Ya, that might just do it.
 

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OOOOOOOHHH, the drama, the passion. Only thing missing is to be side by side in person so it could come to blows!!!! LOL

 
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SchlongConery

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Sure is!

Like this from a retired US Intelligence Analyst

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The IS Navy is impotent when it comes to keeping the Straits of Hormuz (there is no Gulf of Hormuz) open. The US Navy decided years ago that it was simply far too risky to send any capital ships through the Straits because it was simply too risky to transit or they could be trapped in the Persian Gulf. So now they are pretty much restricted to 200 km off the Iranian coast in the Arabian Sea.

There are two shipping channels through the Straits and each is only about 3 km wide. That means that any “battle group” sailing through would have to be moving slowly, in a line, and unable to maneuver.

there are cliffs all along the Straits. Hidden in these are hundreds of North-Korean designed emplacements containing artillery pieces, anti-ship missiles, drones, heavy mortars, rockets and other weapons systems in peek-and-shoot. often defilade, positions. These would be virtually impossible to take out.

And there are at least six old tanker hulks that Iran has pre-positioned that can be towed crosswise of the shipping channels and scuttled. These would take years to remove and could only be done after hostilities had ceased.

Iran also has thousands of speedboats and marine drones. These speedboats are armed with machine guns, anti-ship missiles, rockets, and frogmen with limpet mines. The fastest of them can travel as fast as 110 knots and the CIWS found on ships cannot hit them very well because they lack the traverse speed and cannot be depressed far enough to even shoot at them. There are also AIP subs and minelayers to contend with.

And that brings to mention mines. Iran has over 5,000 naval mines that range from old moored contact mines to very modern “smart” mines. Unfortunately, the US Navy just decommissioned the last of its old wooden-hulled mine sweepers and currently has no minesweepers in its inventory. Now they depend on LCS ships for that mission. But only two of the LCS ships even have the mission kits and these have never been tried in combat. These depend heavily on sophisticated coordination with helos and that has never been practiced in real world conditions. So removing any mines would be extremely difficult and could only be done over the course of months after hostilities had ceased.

And the USS Lincoln and USS Ford are over-deployed. The crews are tired and critical maintenance has been largely deferred. The Ford was just sent off station to Crete for repairs due to a catastrophic fire and malfunctioning toilets.

There is a lot less that can be done with naval and air power alone than people suppose. All you can do is break a lot of things, kill a lot of mostly innocent people, and make more people hate us permanently."
 
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