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Frankfooter

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When the Regime time and again states that their goal is destruction of the west...that's a matter of national security.
Oh and btw... illegal immigration is a factor in the ordinary American life, but that's ok?
They didn't say that.
Instead Netanyahu said he's been dreaming of attacking Iran for 40 years and now wants to destroy all the Amalek or Goyim.

 

richaceg

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nottyboi

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They can just buy more.
The US and Israel combined, have way more arms and ammunition than Iran does.
Not the stuff that matters. They only make 600 patriots missiles a year and they already blew their stockpiles in Ukraine. Iran can make 100-250 ballistic missiles/month and hundreds of drones. Patriots have a very low success rate with ballistic missiles. So if Iran launches 1 months worth of drone production it takes more then a years Patriot production to stop that.
 

Frankfooter

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Meh...IRGC and the Regime never wanted to negotiate the Nuclear building. they want to push with it....destroying the 2 major sites isn't enough so US just started removing the decision makers.
trump cancelled the JCPOA in 2018.
Iran agreed to all terms the night before trump attacked and then Netanyahu declared that they used negotiations only as a ruse.

 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Even Tucker is making more sense than the government.
I’ve been thinking about this.
Netanyahu’s worldview feels fundamentally dark and pessimistic.
I would argue that this outlook is not just personal but rooted in a core strand of Israel’s national identity.
That identity is built around shared generational trauma, where Jewish history is understood as a pattern of exile, persecution, and repeated attempts at extermination.
From that perspective, the assumption becomes that the Arabs will never truly accept Israel.
If that is the premise, then peace can only come through overwhelming force and total capitulation of all Arab nations.
First build an iron wall of military dominance. Then negotiate from a position of absolute strength and dictate the terms.
But a worldview built on permanent existential threat requires that threat to remain central.
That raises a serious long term question.
Can a nation whose core identity anchored in perpetual siege sustain itself indefinitely, or does that foundation eventually erode its own viability?
 

Frankfooter

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I’ve been thinking about this.
Netanyahu’s worldview feels fundamentally dark and pessimistic.
I would argue that this outlook is not just personal but rooted in a core strand of Israel’s national identity.
That identity is built around shared generational trauma, where Jewish history is understood as a pattern of exile, persecution, and repeated attempts at extermination.
From that perspective, the assumption becomes that the Arabs will never truly accept Israel.
If that is the premise, then peace can only come through overwhelming force and total capitulation of all Arab nations.
First build an iron wall of military dominance. Then negotiate from a position of absolute strength and dictate the terms.
But a worldview built on permanent existential threat requires that threat to remain central.
That raises a serious long term question.
Can a nation whose core identity anchored in perpetual siege sustain itself indefinitely, or does that foundation eventually erode its own viability?
Israel has already destroyed its viability.
The genocide has turned the world against them and only a handful of older, white leaders are propping them up.

The genocide is the horrible logical conclusion of a supremacist colonial movement.
This war could hasten the end of the american empire along with them.

 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Removing the regime and IRGC is the better option....Iran needs change, Iran wants change...
You cant "remove the regime and the IRGC". That doesn't mean anything.
As I said, you'd have to invade.
But the Iranians are not like the Iraqis with low morale.
You should read up on how they fight and how they fought during the Iran Iraq war. Its terrifying.
This will be a 20 year engagement where the US gets suckered into footing Israel's bill and paying the price with American lives.
 
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Frankfooter

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I’ve been thinking about this.
Netanyahu’s worldview feels fundamentally dark and pessimistic.
I would argue that this outlook is not just personal but rooted in a core strand of Israel’s national identity.
That identity is built around shared generational trauma, where Jewish history is understood as a pattern of exile, persecution, and repeated attempts at extermination.
From that perspective, the assumption becomes that the Arabs will never truly accept Israel.
If that is the premise, then peace can only come through overwhelming force and total capitulation of all Arab nations.
First build an iron wall of military dominance. Then negotiate from a position of absolute strength and dictate the terms.
But a worldview built on permanent existential threat requires that threat to remain central.
That raises a serious long term question.
Can a nation whose core identity anchored in perpetual siege sustain itself indefinitely, or does that foundation eventually erode its own viability?
Now there are reports that it was Israel that attacked Saudi Arabia as a black flag to try to get them to join the war.


 

richaceg

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You cant "remove the regime and the IRGC". That doesn't mean anything.
As I said, you'd have to invade.
But the Iranians are not like the Iraqis with low morale.
You should read up on how they fight and how they fought during the Iran Iraq war. Its terrifying.
This will be a 20 year engagement where the US gets suckered into footing Israel's bill and paying the price with American lives.
LMAO...I've been to Iran 90s...they wanted this change. You have no idea how IRGC treats the citizens...specially women. that's how clueless you are about the middle east.
 

nottyboi

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look at the desperation in your posts...lmao....IRGC is targeting civilian sites, hotels, embassies etc...they can't touch the carriers so of course the terrorists go after civilians...
Meanwhile the heroic USA and Israel murdered 150 young girls. You must really admire the studly Epstein class. lol
 
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