Violence = Glory?

Quest4Less

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Why is it that we (society) glorifies violence? I was watching CTV and they did a spot on these DVD's available in shops where guys and girls are just basically beating the crap out of each other. Then there was the story of the school kids using their cell cameras to film fights and posting it to "u-tube". Of course there is also boxing, and now "UFC" fights...

So why is this so popular? Shouldn't civilised inteligent people be able to find a better way to solve disagreements?

Should a "sport" who's sole goal is to cause physical harm to your oponent be allowed?

Just because you can "beat" another person - does that make you "better" than them?

Why is it that one of the first reactions you have to being "wronged" is to want to hit that person?

Why? And can we change it?
 
Why is it that men like to watch women fight? But, yet if a beautiful looking woman gets harmed they get mad and say he should get the death penalty. :confused:
 
Quest4Less said:
Why is it that we (society) glorifies violence? I was watching CTV and they did a spot on these DVD's available in shops where guys and girls are just basically beating the crap out of each other. Then there was the story of the school kids using their cell cameras to film fights and posting it to "u-tube". Of course there is also boxing, and now "UFC" fights...

So why is this so popular? Shouldn't civilised inteligent people be able to find a better way to solve disagreements?

Should a "sport" who's sole goal is to cause physical harm to your oponent be allowed?

Just because you can "beat" another person - does that make you "better" than them?

Why is it that one of the first reactions you have to being "wronged" is to want to hit that person?

Why? And can we change it?


I saw the same story. Just another thing thats wrong in our society, and prob will never understand why.
These vids are available in regular stores like HMV. the same ppl that allow these to be sold in stores are prob the same who thinks rap is responsible for the bad things in society these days. Like things like this has nothing to do with how it affects the kids etc.
 
Well, the Romans had the gladiators... so it's not new, even in a 'civilized' culture.

What I don't get is that the same people who think nothing of watching, and even letting their kids watch, all the violence they can get their hands on, are adament that nudity and sexuality must not be watched.

violence > acceptable
sex > beyond the pale

That's just fucked up.

Hey, we can say 'fuck' now! When did that change? :eek:
 
It's a societal cycle thing. think of society over time...As history has unfolded, we have gone around the cycle over varying lengths of time...Gladiators, the Mideivel (sp?) era, and then the opposite end of the cycle, Victorians, Puritans... we're just in the downward spiral..Problem is we have technology to help add to the acceleration rate.. We've always been facinated with someone else's demise...most of us are hardwired that way. But now our media saturated society driven by the need to be 'cutting edge', or first to break the taboo helps de-sensitize us to the violence before we get the whole story and understand the full ramafications..

It's particularly disturbing when people allow their kids to see it and don't communicate with them about what's entertainment and what's just attention getting and video garbage. Viewer is right, allowing violence to be readily accessible but placing barriers and stigmas to their own selves by not being open when kids ask 'where do babies come from' just proves how fast the handbasket decends...

Personally, I just don't watch the garbage the networks call reality. My TV bit the dust last week and I have little plan to replace it. My reality includes actual reality, not the scripted kind you see on FOX.
 
2000 years ago, going to the Colliseum and watching slaves get fed to Lions was considered good times. Pre-revolution France beheading criminals publicly, public "stonings" of aldulterous women, Purtians burning witches, Horse thieves being hung in the town square in the Old West. These were public events people would attend and even take their kids to.

Personally I'd say we're far better off as a society when we merely want to see people consentually pummel each other for five minutes then part company afterwards.
 
Viewer said:
violence > acceptable
sex > beyond the pale

That's just fucked up.

I agree 100%. Why it is wrong to teach sex ed, or sexuality in schools, wrong to have kids see 2 conscenting adults enjoying each other's company, but it is 100% A-OK to show splatter movies and cops shooting anything that moves is beyond me.