Vibration machines for exercise - I need an opinion

ig-88

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It's possible that their claims are true; that there is some medical benefit.

But don't rely solely on that machine; you still need traditional exercise.
 

blank_dave

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And here I was wondering what real health benefits something like a Hitachi would provide.
 

larry

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This vibration stuff comes out of china. they've been scamming that community for years. now it's the turn of westerners. glad to be included. buy one if you like. what improvements are you hoping for? how will you measure the before and after? ahhhhhhh. that's the hitch.
 

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Would you share any of the science facts?? I doubt it will work since it would be too easy to lose wait, you just stand there and watch TV..wow.
 

basketcase

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Need an explanation oracle where is your evidence


I have seen results and these machines are based on science
The results might be explained by what sounds like science and the positive belief in them might have some benefits but when it comes down to it, there is absolutely no replacement for a health diet and regular exercise (I've found that getting older means diet is even more important - thankfully I don't mind having a little gut).

p.s. notice how many similar guaranteed inventions have disappeared? Either they are junk or the world-wide gym membership concerns are suppressing the truth.

Check out this site: http://www.exercise-equipment-review.com/as_seen_on_tv.html and you will see the only ones that are recommended are the ones with actual exercise.


p.p.s. If you really want to tone up, join a gym with a pool and swim 30 minutes, 3 times a week.
 

blackrock13

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This will flat out not work.

You will be flushing your hard earned $ down the drain.
This is just a recycled belt machine. What you get from it, if anything is way less than what you spend. Think about it. Your muscle aren't stressed, resisted, or stimulated a measurable amount. There have been comparisons a long time ago. It would take some tim e to dick them up. How does the machine claim to work?

The one I remember that had a comparison done was the the Power Plate or some such name.

Reading the ad and see cures active cancer and tumors, alarm bells should go off, please.
 

The Oracle

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Need an explanation oracle where is your evidence


I have seen results and these machines are based on science
Muscle hypertrophy is the result of tissue adaptation to stress placed on it through weight resistant load training.

Vibration stimulus is not efficient enough to cause this type of adaptation.

Are the results you talk of really based on science?

Can you show me one peer reviewed study?
 

toguy5252

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You might be better of purchasing a toaster oven or something else which will actually perform some function.
 

Lou Siffer

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I don't mean to hijack your thread but...

The Oracle, who is that girl in your sig pic. I'm sure she's someone famous and I probably seem like I've been living under a rock, but I have to know. What an awesome, sexy smile.

Oh, and the vibrating thingy... I didn't bother to follow the link, I'm sure it has little to no physical benefit. Just get some regular exercise. It doesn't have to be strenuous. A 20 minute walk each day will do wonders.
 

blackrock13

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Try this;


http://blogcritics.org/scitech/article/the-healthy-skeptic-whole-body-vibration/

Page 1 of 4:


As revealed in my first two installments in this series, the quality of research provided by the manufacturers of Whole Body Vibration platforms is lacking. In this latest installment of Debunking the Myth of WBV I’m going to provide a review of items five through nine on the “Researches” (sic) page of the Hypergravity web site.

The fifth item of research is titled Whole body vibration exercise; are vibrations good for you? Clicking on the link takes you to the Pubmed website where you can read a summary paragraph for a review of research that deals with the efficacy of WBV training.

This discussion touches on many of the different effects that WBV is alleged to provide.

The authors of this review - Cardinale and Wakeling - make the following statement in the section titled Chronic Effects Of Vibration On Neuromuscular Performance, “If well trained populations use vibration exercise with the aim of improving neuromuscular performance, an optimal amplitude and frequency should be coupled with an optimal level of muscle activity on which the vibration stimulation can be superimposed. Of course, this should be the aim of future studies and for this reason we have recently patented an exercise device able to allow the user to perform vibration exercise while controlling the level of force and muscle mechanics (Patent Number WO2004009173).”

The authors’ have nothing more than this theory that an optimal amplitude and frequency may make WBV suitable for trained members of the population, and as a result of this theory these researchers have patented their own vibrating platform. This research can hardly be considered objective since the authors of this review have a vested interest in providing us with data that supports their theory.

The design of the researchers patented exercise device isn't based on facts culled from research, but in a unproven theory which makes this whole exercise suspect.

This same section starts off with the statement; “Chronic studies seem to provide more supportive evidence for the possibility of using WBVT effectively in different populations. A few weeks of training seem to produce conflicting results.” This is wishy-washy double talk that the authors use because they do not want to say that there is no evidence that WBV provides any real benefits.


........... and that's just one comment. Search 'body vibration machines workout scam'. Loads of feedback. Enjoy.
 

Manji

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I don't mean to hijack your thread but...

The Oracle, who is that girl in your sig pic. I'm sure she's someone famous and I probably seem like I've been living under a rock, but I have to know. What an awesome, sexy smile.

Oh, and the vibrating thingy... I didn't bother to follow the link, I'm sure it has little to no physical benefit. Just get some regular exercise. It doesn't have to be strenuous. A 20 minute walk each day will do wonders.


Its Gina Carano....

Mixed Martial Artist...MMA's most famous Female Fighter (at least in North America)... She was also a Gladiator on American Gladiator....
 

Big Rig

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Thanks everyone for your response

There are two types of WBV machines

One that oscillates sideways like a teeter toter and the other kind does not IE power plate

Power plate costs thousands the oscillating type around one thousand

The cheap plastic ones come from China but the concept was created by Russian scientists in order to help astronauts exercise in outer space


I have tried the machine for several months at a club and have found results

Holding a semi-squat position (thighs about half-way down toward parallel), felt as if had a 150lb weight vest on , (I own an 84lb vest to compare) and my legs are stronger.

Flexibility of my hamstrings and tension in my Achilles tendon was greatly improved immediately after a forward bend on the machine. I can easily touch the floor with my second knuckle when I could only reach my shoes before

BY holding a push up position with my hands on the machine my arms and whole upper body have strengthened

This happened with 15 minutes 5 days a week and no other exercise


This was not a scientific study so results must be taken lightly
 

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I'm with you lou, can't tell you how many times I've watched that gorgeous smile on the sig pic of his. Now back to the vibrating thingamajiggy.
 

blackrock13

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Thanks everyone for your response

There are two types of WBV machines

One that oscillates sideways like a teeter toter and the other kind does not IE power plate

Power plate costs thousands the oscillating type around one thousand

The cheap plastic ones come from China but the concept was created by Russian scientists in order to help astronauts exercise in outer space


I have tried the machine for several months at a club and have found results

Holding a semi-squat position (thighs about half-way down toward parallel), felt as if had a 150lb weight vest on , (I own an 84lb vest to compare) and my legs are stronger.

Flexibility of my hamstrings and tension in my Achilles tendon was greatly improved immediately after a forward bend on the machine. I can easily touch the floor with my second knuckle when I could only reach my shoes before

BY holding a push up position with my hands on the machine my arms and whole upper body have strengthened

This happened with 15 minutes 5 days a week and no other exercise


This was not a scientific study so results must be taken lightly
You could still probably get the same result with a couple of dumbbells and a $1000 'in' your wallet.
 

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Jiggling your fat around will not make it go away.

Biologically there is only one way to lose weight: You must burn more calories than you consume.

There are two ways to do that: Eat less, or burn more. End of story.

This machine is not causing you to spend energy burning calories significantly above what you would burn doing anything. You would burn more calories walking.

Get your fat ass into the gym and do some real work, get yourself on a real diet, and yes indeed you will lose weight.
 

Big Rig

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Jiggling your fat around will not make it go away.

Biologically there is only one way to lose weight: You must burn more calories than you consume.

There are two ways to do that: Eat less, or burn more. End of story.

This machine is not causing you to spend energy burning calories significantly above what you would burn doing anything. You would burn more calories walking.

Get your fat ass into the gym and do some real work, get yourself on a real diet, and yes indeed you will lose weight.
To clarify, this is not a weight reducing product just a muscle building machine as well as great for increasing flexibility although adding muscle will reduce weight far more than walking so you are wrong on that point

Also the machine advertises itself to be used as a compliment to regular exercise

The best thing about this machine is ease of use so you are not intimidated by hard work at the end of a tiring day
 
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