Vehicle Ownership Cerficate
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I was stopped for sppeeding - 60 kph in a 50 kph zone, was asked to produce my driver's licence, insurance certificate, & vehicle ownership certificate.
I only keep photo copy of vehicle ownership in the vehicle, the officer told me that the photo copy must show both sides of the certificate. As such, he issued me with another ticket for not producing a valid ownership certificate, obviously only the front side is not considered valid.
Have you heard of this ruling/interpretation?
I only keep photo copy of vehicle ownership in the vehicle, the officer told me that the photo copy must show both sides of the certificate. As such, he issued me with another ticket for not producing a valid ownership certificate, obviously only the front side is not considered valid.
Have you heard of this ruling/interpretation?
Not sure, but the back of the o/s is useless info for the officer, i would let a judge decide that.
Thanks!
Thanks guys!
I will fight this in court & let the judge decide my fate.
FYI, there's a validation sticker on the vehicle licence plate.
I never keep the original ownership in the vehicle just in case the vehicle is stolen, then sold or recovered, I still have the original ownership certificate to prove my ownership.
Thanks guys!
I will fight this in court & let the judge decide my fate.
FYI, there's a validation sticker on the vehicle licence plate.
I never keep the original ownership in the vehicle just in case the vehicle is stolen, then sold or recovered, I still have the original ownership certificate to prove my ownership.
you must have the documents there, the cop can give you time to produce them if he/she is in a good mood. That is changing as the police are being used to generste revenue now as opposed to keeping the peace, the regions want the money.
It says on the bottom of the permit that "a true copy" be carried in the vehicle for which it was issued while the vehicle is operated on a highway.
I guess one needs to determine what "a true copy" is - one side of the permit or both sides?
I guess one needs to determine what "a true copy" is - one side of the permit or both sides?
That used to be the case but not anymore. You can be fined for not producing this paperwork.
You don't need to produce ownership papers to prove a vehicle is yours if it's been recovered, it's all on file with the government. Keep it in the car.
If there is information on both sides, then a "true copy" would have to include both sides.
You don't need the original to prove your ownership, the vehicle via the VIN is registered to you. You should keep the photocopy at home, not the original. Would you expect a cop to accept a photocopy of your driver's licence? For that matter, are you driving such a hot vehicle that you are paranoid that it will get stolen?
Typically though you get a 24 hrs to produce ticket from the cop. This is where you have 24 hrs to report to the ticketing officer's station with the original or the ticket becomes valid. I forgot my wallet once and got stopped and this is what he did. It is a pain in the ass having to drive to wherever to produce but it was easier than fighting a ticket. Either way you didn't have a valid proof of ownership so even the JOP could still hold the charge up.
As stated, they need to see the back of the ownership to match the serial number on the plate sticker to the one on the ownership. For all he knew you could have peeled the plate one off another vehicle.
Take this as a lesson: have the appropriate documentation with you or pay the price, your choice. Funny how people are always coming on here about tickets yet in every case, they are at fault for doing something wrong yet can't understand why......
No, but it has long been acceptable to show a photocopy of your registration instead of the original.
Our drivers licenses are nice pieces of plastic that are replaced regularily. The registration is a piece of paper that stays with you until you get rid of the vehicle. Unless you regularly do that, carrying the registration in your wallet will quickly destroy it.
When I took drivers ed (many moons ago) the recommendation from the teacher was to never leave your documentation in the car.... why make it easy for thieves? Even if you don't drive a hot car doesn't mean some punk won't clout it for a joyride or other nefarious deeds. I have had several officers also say that keeping your car's paperwork in your wallet is better than in the glove-box. (stray thought: Does anyone actually keep gloves in there anymore?)
I thought so to, but it appears to be no longer the case. Asked a cop today when we crossed paths in a Timmy's and he said that it is an option, but it is not often used anymore as it is the driver's responsibility to have the necessary documentation with them.
Keep it in a plastic sleeve, and it'll last forever. Unless you're in the habit of producing it for cops who have stopped you. Keep the pinkslip there too and hand the whole thing over when you lend the car.
The glovebox is the last place to stash the ownership if you want to keep it in the car. Use a clip-on nametag sleeve and hang it under the dash. Remember to show any other drivers.
