Vaccine Trials | Full Measure
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1. Why would anyone put their kid through a vaccine trial? I mean I guess you have to try it on some people one way or another, but trusting Pfizer? Those guys tested a vaccine in Kenya that killed many children. If I was a parent, I wouldn't put a vaccine in my kid until after approval.
2. How many kids were in the trial, and how many suffered adverse effects like this girl?
2. How many kids were in the trial, and how many suffered adverse effects like this girl?
1. Because clinical trials are often the only way to get medicines not yet approved.
2. You aren't going to get those answers, because the point of this narrative is how awful it is that this thing happened. Actual stats would disrupt the "the vaccines are the invention of evil people doing evil to be evil so they can control you through evil" narrative.
as opposed to real narrative of
all rainbows, fairy dust and unicorns
as the dictator Trudeau tried to force it on people
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Except the real narrative has never been all rainbows and unicorns. The real narrative has been, publishing numbers that show that adverse effects do occur but are few and far between, and that the vaccine is generally very safe.
Hard to disagree about actual numbers, though.
We should look at those.
It appears to be this study.
If so, that's 2489 12-17 year olds who got the vaccine in the trial.
this is from your study example:
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Conclusions
The mRNA-1273 vaccine had an acceptable safety profile in adolescents. The immune response was similar to that in young adults, and the vaccine was efficacious in preventing Covid-19. (Funded by Moderna
propaganda over facts is betterNo, facts and data mean nothing. Fiction over facts is the way to go!!!!
So what? Are you saying that because it is funded by Moderna, everything in there is a blatant LIE? Like they actually killed all the people who participated in the trial, but covered up the murders and said exactly the opposite in the paper to trick you into getting the vaccine?this is from your study example:
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Conclusions
The mRNA-1273 vaccine had an acceptable safety profile in adolescents. The immune response was similar to that in young adults, and the vaccine was efficacious in preventing Covid-19. (Funded by Moderna
CONCLUSION:
get rid of woke progressives, and climate change and "Disease X "
will balance itself
get rid of woke progressives, and climate change and "Disease X "
will balance itself
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Help yourself. Get the vaccine.I can't help you
Get vaccinated. Save lives. Yours particularly.
My friend, there are a few folks in here who need help. Perhaps getting out of the disinformation echo chamber may help but I am afraid some of you are too far and too deep into the rabbit hole.I can't help you
Help yourself. Get the vaccine.
Get vaccinated. Save lives. Yours particularly.
Dr. Prasad calls you waiting for it.....Deranged,lol.
Boosters don't work on people who were previously infected.
Case fatality rate of the people who tested positive for cov19 and died was .08% that's right folks...8 one hundredths of one percent. Not the 3.4 % B.S. that the WHO was trying to pedal in 2020.
The fatality rate is 1.1% in Canada across the whole population. So not sure where you got the 3.4% from. Also, if you look at the deaths, the primary group affected are the 60 to 90 year olds. (Incidentally the age group of many on here.
)Boosters don't work, is a nonsensical statement. Yes a previous COVID infection, provides you with immunity, but remember there are multiple variants. So perhaps a booster specific to a variant will help you against that variant? Not sure.
But the problem is not boosters. You dont need to get the booster. Just get the 2 initial shots. The pushback has always been against the vaccine itself.
Who did you think would be funding the trial?this is from your study example:
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Conclusions
The mRNA-1273 vaccine had an acceptable safety profile in adolescents. The immune response was similar to that in young adults, and the vaccine was efficacious in preventing Covid-19. (Funded by Moderna
Once again.......Did you watch the video?The fatality rate is 1.1% in Canada across the whole population. So not sure where you got the 3.4% from. Also, if you look at the deaths, the primary group affected are the 60 to 90 year olds. (Incidentally the age group of many on here.
Boosters don't work, is a nonsensical statement. Yes a previous COVID infection, provides you with immunity, but remember there are multiple variants. So perhaps a booster specific to a variant will help you against that variant? Not sure.
But the problem is not boosters. You dont need to get the booster. Just get the 2 initial shots. The pushback has always been against the vaccine itself.
TOTALLY NORMAL AND REASONABLE AND NOT-AT-ALL-CRAZY GUY, RIGHT?
Vinay Prasad - Wikipedia
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Covid response
In October 2021, Prasad prompted social media controversy when he published a blog post comparing the U.S. COVID-19 pandemic response to the beginnings of Adolf Hitler's Third Reich. Bioethicist Arthur L. Caplan said that Prasad's arguments were specious and ignorant, and science historian Robert N. Proctor said that Prasad was "overplaying the dangers of vaccination mandates and trivializing the genuine harms to liberty posed by 1930s fascism".[26]
In January 2022, the conservative periodical City Journal published an opinion piece by Prasad in which he attempted to demonstrate that the American public health organizations were not being honest in their response to the COVID-19 pandemic. [27] Writing for Science-Based Medicine, epidemiologist Lynn Shaffer criticized Prasad's article for the various "mistruths" it contained about face masks as a COVID-19 mitigation measure, for example the unevidenced claim that mask wearing was stunting children's language development. In Shaffer's view Prasad's writing "lean heavily on pushing people's emotional hot buttons" and amounted to a form of fearmongering.[28]
Prasad was an early member of the Urgency of Normal, a group that in 2022 campaigned against quarantines and mask mandates in schools during the COVID-19 pandemic.[29] He spoke in support of repealing such mandates in a March 2022 interview.[30]
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