twentynine said:
Hey Francesca -- there is game and there is Game. Good game is actually kinda like you are describing but with masculine confidence and honesty because the guy doesn't give a fuck -- he's above diminishing himself to alter his reality to please a woman, but he's genuinely interested in connecting and welcoming you to his reality. You might prefer to think of it as a dance rather than a game. Bad game is manipulative, womanizing and dishonest. When some people say Game, it's one of those two possibilities, but don't assume it's the negative one.
It funny, women complain all the time about guys with 'game' but they jump over each other to go after the guys who have it.
I've read many articles etc about this topic and while women act like cleopatra (queen of da nile aka denial) they LOVE guys who treat em like trash once in a while. They all pine away for guys that will treat them with respect, dignity and adoration but do they EVER go for one? Ummm NO.
Condfidence: there is confidence and there is bravado...of all the "macho/confient" guys I've known in my life, each and every one was an insecure baby at heart. Confidence isn't being able to talk for hours about nothing, it is about having something to say, and knowing when to say it. Confidence is also knowing that by shutting up and listening, you learn way more than talking. Confidence is not needing a "wingman" it is going to a club alone and having a great time, NOT needing a pack of supporters or a cheering section.
The reason I gave up on the "game" is because of this: There are rules to the "game" rule 1: In north america women make the rules and rule #2 is: women reserve the right to change any rule at any time for any reason. Another reason is that I find that women have 1,000,000 reasons not to be attracted to someone (me) and only 1 reason TO be attracted to someone (me) the trick is to find that one reason and work it to be bone. If at any time, you satisfy 999,999 of their reasons, if you miss the last one, yer (I'm)fuct. WOmen base way too much on first impressions (me lol), if you (me) don't give a great first impression? you're at the curb.
I will tell you what it's like: I've had 3 5 yr relationships, and for every one, I had to positively drag, cajole, blackmail, grab them kicking and screaming out on a date with me...each one ended up lasting (like I said) 5 yrs + and for the other 20+ non sp women I've bedded, they've all been interested in me after the first date to see me for 6 months plus.
ANyhow, LV, you have a long way to go before you give up, I compare the male/female north american dating ritual to this analogy:
Men are like farm dogs chilling out in front of the farm house. When we're young, we'll go tearing off down the dirt road after every car that comes by. If you're lucky, you snag a ferrari or a bentley. More often than not you snag an old beat up ford fairlane that needs constant attention.
Well, I'm an old farm dog that is sick and tired of chasing those dam cars down the road.....some of em will slow down so I can almost catch em then speed up to about 100 and leave me in the dust. Well, this old dog has learned his lesson, if those dam cars really want to be caught? they'll park right in front of me, turn off the ignition, throw the keys out the window and wait there until I decide whether they are worth my time...until that one pulls up? I will just have my pick of the ferraris and bentleys anytime I feel like it thank you very much....