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BRICS credit: Local currencies to replace dollar
Apr 14, 2011, 01.46pm

SANYA:Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa - the BRICS group of fastest growing economies - Thursday signed an agreement to use their own currencies instead of the predominant US dollar in issuing credit or grants to each other.

The agreement, the first of its kind, was signed at the 3rd BRICS summit here attended by Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, China's Hu Jintao, Brazil's Dilma Rousseff, Russia's Dmitry Medvedev and South Africa's Jacob Zuma.
Sounds like financial equivalent of the Warsaw Pact to me.

Doubtful it's going to work as advertised when the vested interests between the BRICS are wider than the Grand Canyon or something. :rolleyes:

More importantly, couldn't tell for sure Rupree, Real, Rubles, Rand and RMB (5Rs) have the same liquidity as USD, EUR or YEN for the time being.
 

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Kind of late to buy US stocks right now, isn't it when the majority of the US stocks outperform starting earlier this year and more importantly the QE2 is supposed to come to end in late June? No?

Unless we are talking about dogs like MSFT, INTC, CSCO, even home builder stocks like DRI and LEN. :eek:
The original currency speculator mentioned 5-10 years holding period so the last three months and next three months mean little to me in light of the long time frame being considered. I still find the relative certainty of the US market being higher in ten years vis a vis a currency play to a much more attractive bet.

D.
 

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Farmers Get Rich as Wheat Drives Deere Profits: Freight Markets

Obviously this is good news to the US economy. But is it a good sign that
agriculture will turn out to be the get rich sector of an economy that
is no longer a resource based one? Personally I doubt a global food crisis would
beneficial to the $USD.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...ives-deere-record-profit-freight-markets.html

Whitney McFerron - Apr 19, 2011


The biggest U.S. wheat shipments in a generation mean record income for
farmers, the most profit ever for Deere & Co. (DE) and the nation’s
lowest jobless rate in North Dakota, the largest grower.

The U.S. will control 28 percent of global wheat exports this year, up
from 18 percent in 2010, the U.S. Department of Agriculture says. With
prices averaging about $8 a bushel this quarter and the next, the most
in three years, farms will earn $94.7 billion, according to analysts’
forecasts compiled by Bloomberg and a USDA estimate. North Dakota’s
jobless rate was 3.6 percent in March, compared with 8.8 percent
nationally.

The surge in income is spurring lawmakers to propose farm- subsidy cuts
and aiding President Barack Obama in his goal of doubling exports in five
years. It also means Deere, the largest farm-equipment maker, will report
a 42 percent rise in profit this year, and Monsanto Co. (MON), the biggest
seed producer, will earn 38 percent more. Shipping lines may benefit the
least because the U.S. is replacing lost supply from Russia and Ukraine,
and global exports will drop 8.6 percent in 2011, the USDA says.

“We’re the supplier of last resort,” said Jerry Fruin, an
agricultural economist at the University of Minnesota in St. Paul,
specializing in logistics. “The U.S. generally has stuff in the bins,
and we have the logistics system to get it to you, since we face both
oceans.”

Wheat rose 71 percent in the past 12 months to $8.21 on the Chicago
Board of Trade, as flooding from Canada to Australia last year hurt
crops. Russia, once the second-biggest exporter, banned shipments
in August and Ukraine followed with curbs in October. That gave the
U.S. an opportunity to expand in markets across northern Africa and
the Middle East, traditional buyers of grain from the Black Sea region.
Middle East Protests

U.S. shipments to Egypt, the world’s biggest wheat buyer, reached 3.27
million metric tons in the marketing year that began in June, seven times
more than a year earlier, USDA data show. Countries including Jordan,
Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Libya and Syria have purchased U.S. wheat
this year, after buying none at the same time last year, the data show.

Buyers in the Middle East and northern Africa accelerated purchases this
year to bolster stockpiles and damp prices that contributed to protests
across the region.

“Russia has hurt its image of reliability as a supplier,” said
Dan Manternach, a wheat economist with Doane Advisory Services, an
agricultural research company in St. Louis. “The countries that had
been dependent on Black Sea-region wheat will no longer allow themselves
to stay dependent, so they’ll diversify sources. Even if Russia has
a monster crop this year, I expect we’ll lose some market share,
but not all of it.”

Ban on Sales

The U.S. will ship 34.7 million tons of wheat in the crop year ending May
31, compared with almost 24 million tons a year earlier and the most since
1993, USDA estimates show. Russian exports slumped to 4 million tons,
from 18.6 million tons, and the government said March 25 it would maintain
the ban on sales until after the harvest that begins in September.

That means more opportunities for U.S. growers. Agriculture accounted
for 8.3 percent of North Dakota’s economy in 2009, more than any other
state, the most recent government data show. Agriculture employs more
than 29,000 people, compared with about 7,000 in natural resources such
as oil and gas production, according to the state Commerce Department.

Wheat generated almost $7 billion for North Dakota last year, according to
Erica Olson, a marketing specialist with the Bismarck-based North Dakota
Wheat Commission. About half of the state’s wheat crop is exported,
with 25 percent of that going by rail to ports in the Pacific Northwest,
where it’s loaded onto vessels bound mostly for Asia, she said.
Equipment Dealers

“The farm economy has been strong, and equipment dealers are having a
good year because producers are updating equipment,” said Harlan Klein,
who farms 15,000 acres of wheat, canola, sunflowers and corn in Elgin,
North Dakota. “Probably the biggest place we’re seeing competition
is in labor. It’s to the point where it’s difficult to find people
to work.”

Cargill, the Minneapolis-based grain exporter that’s the largest closely
held U.S. company, reported a 30 percent jump in third-quarter profit
April 13. Deere, based in Moline, Illinois, will report record earnings of
$6.21 a share in its fiscal year ending in October, compared with $4.35 a
year earlier, according to the mean of 10 analysts’ estimates compiled
by Bloomberg. Monsanto, based in St. Louis, will make $2.83 a share in
the year ending in August, up from $2.01, the mean of six estimates shows.

Growing profit for agricultural producers contrasts with slumping
earnings for the shippers companies that haul the wheat. Grains are most
commonly carried on panamaxes, the largest vessels able to transit the
Panama Canal. Daily Rates

Returns on the carriers fell 21 percent this year to $11,666 a
day because of a glut of vessels, according to data from the Baltic
Exchange in London, which publishes daily rates for more than 50 maritime
routes. Rates are volatile, moving 34 percent or more in 10 of the last
11 years.

The surge in U.S. wheat exports “helps a bit, but if you look into
what’s driving the bus, it’s iron ore, then coal,” said Steve
Rodley, co-managing director of M2M Management Ltd., a hedge fund that
operates vessels and trades freight derivatives used to bet on or hedge
future transport costs.

Global grain and soybean shipments will advance 3.5 percent to a record
355 million tons this year, according to Clarkson Plc (CKN), the world’s
largest shipbroker. Iron-ore cargoes will rise 7.4 percent to 1.06 billion
tons, with coal gaining 6 percent to 954 million tons, the London-based
company estimates. About 90 percent of global trade moves by sea,
according to the Round Table of International Shipping Associations.
Shipping Shares

The 12-member Bloomberg Dry Ships Index, in which Seoul- based STX Pan
Ocean Co. has the biggest weighting, fell 9.8 percent this year. That
compares with a 6.6 percent advance in the Bloomberg World Agriculture
Index of 32 companies.

Almost 40 percent of last year’s U.S. wheat shipments moved through
ports on the Columbia River, including the Port of Portland, Oregon,
which handled the most grain since 1995, USDA data show. The Port of
South Louisiana, located in LaPlace, ships grains and soybeans carried
from the Midwest on the Mississippi River.

In North Dakota, the state government is forecasting a $122 million
budget surplus for the two-year cycle ending in June, more than the
$79.6 million anticipated in November. The Congressional Budget Office
is projecting a federal budget deficit of $1.5 trillion for this year.

Higher commodity prices “really extend all throughout the state,”
said the North Dakota Wheat Commission’s Olson. “The local elevator
companies work directly with exports, so the increase is beneficial for
them, and that creates jobs. Even with the trade part aside, the farm
economy is going to produce a lot of jobs.”
 

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wait till the Amero hits the market...then all your USD will be worth the same as a Mexican peso...
 

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anybody who's still collecting those pieces of garbage paper USDs is gonna end up A BIG TIME LOOOOOOSER WITH A CAPITAL 'L' !!!!!
So you are saying those Chinese and Japanese are BIG TIME LOOOOOOSER WITH A CAPITAL 'L'. No? :rolleyes:

Funny to notice that those mainland Chinese look cocky and assertive when their purchasing power of the RMB is based on the gigantic foreign reserve in garbage paper USD, not gold. Are they idiots? Am I missing something?
 

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The way I see it, the $US is worthless. The reason: behaviour in the US didn't change during the last couple of years since collapse in 2008. How can US collect tax money when the largest corporations are contributing nothing? GE, for example - it was in Globe and Mail a couple of days ago. Most states are bankrupt and it seems to me that the Union is as well. The only reason why $US keeps its (unreal) value is that it's still the predominant world currency. China holds a huge amount of US cash and is locked in that situation, so they also want to keep greenback up. Otherwise, their $US reserves are worthless. However, we shouldn't forget that the US is by far the largest food producer in the world. That's the best currency, worth much more than gold or some colourful piece of paper.

As for the US gold reserves, the last independent audit that saw gold in Fort Knox was back in 50s. Sceptics even doubt that there is anything left in those vaults.

I don't know if it's a good idea to keep $US or not. Little people like us can only count on luck to be in the right position when major players play their cards and their game is pretty simple: scoop the money from poor majority. Just my point of view.
 

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The way I see it, the $US is worthless. The reason: behaviour in the US didn't change during the last couple of years since collapse in 2008. How can US collect tax money when the largest corporations are contributing nothing? GE, for example - it was in Globe and Mail a couple of days ago. Most states are bankrupt and it seems to me that the Union is as well. The only reason why $US keeps its (unreal) value is that it's still the predominant world currency.
Yep, being the predominant world currency could afford the Americans to print like crazy and more importantly inflict collective punishment to others. They know too well there is no credible alternative to their papers. Not Euro, not RMB.

China holds a huge amount of US cash and is locked in that situation, so they also want to keep greenback up. Otherwise, their $US reserves are worthless. However, we shouldn't forget that the US is by far the largest food producer in the world. That's the best currency, worth much more than gold or some colourful piece of paper.
Sounds like Obama's preference on Ethanol as an alternative energy is not really that dumb after all since this could give America leverage on controlling food supply overseas. No?

As for the US gold reserves, the last independent audit that saw gold in Fort Knox was back in 50s. Sceptics even doubt that there is anything left in those vaults.
LOL, those gold bugs who repeat the conspiracy theory for decades. Don't recall they provide verifiable evidence, like hmm Wikileak to prove their case.

BTW, are they the same group who accuse the two silver Custodians conspire to heavily sell short on the metal for decades until recently?

I don't know if it's a good idea to keep $US or not. Little people like us can only count on luck to be in the right position when major players play their cards and their game is pretty simple: scoop the money from poor majority. Just my point of view.
Indeed.

That being said, one could take some control by holding GLD/SLV/IAU for the past years but again some skeptics would consider these physical ETFs ponzi, just like those at Fort Knox. :rolleyes:
 

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YES, you are missing something !!!!

Chineese have been secretly buying gold and silver for quite some time now .....they do it very slow because they dont want to create any vigorous moves on the forex
and japaneese (gov and bank of japan to be more precise) are just fucking morons, since they continue to stockpile the dollars (for now) but soon they're gonna realize that they will have NO CHOICE BUT TO SELL the US and OTHER reserves since the cost of imports for them will sky rocket VERY SOON especially after the last months earthquake

and as for the ULTIMATE DUMBA$$ES - The Arabs .....THEY Too will have no choice but to stop subsidizing The US consumers and start calming there own populus aka protests in tunisia,egypt,yamen,libya and all the rest there AND that can already be seen HELLO DOESNT ANYBODY DRIVE HERE ? ? ? $112/barrel oil ???? soon to be $200 !!!!!

so like i said....YES, you're Missing ALOT !!!!
Or they suspect this Gold and silver bubbles are going to burst big time soon and thus no rush to accumulate just yet?
 

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Or they suspect this Gold and silver bubbles are going to burst big time soon and thus no rush to accumulate just yet?
I am betting on a 25 ---- 30% pullback in silver price within the next few months.

The appreciation in the price of gold has been more orderly than silver.
In fact much of its recent appreciation was driven by the decline in the
USD. Priced in loonie gold is still reasonably cheap IMO. I would put the
floor price for gold near $1300. My guess is that the downside is limited
and accumulation of gold bullion near its current price should be fine if your
time horizon is longer than 6 months. Further appreciation from the current
$1500 level would be mostly a reverse measure of the strength of the $USD.

Never like to give advice on stock picks. With gold I take
an exception. It is one asset I've urged close friends and extended
family members to accumulate to safeguard their financial health from
the US fiscal madness. The volatility of silver scares me. But if a major
pull back transpires as I anticipated I would increase the holding of
silver bullions in several stock portfolios I help manage. Silver could turn
out to be the investment opportunity of the century. While gold is the ultimate
money you won't want to live in a time when gold is actually used as currency.
The real money is silver.
 

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50 Factors Launching Gold

http://goldsilver.com/news/excellent-read-50-factors-launching-gold-jim-willie-cb/

Jim Willie
APRIL 20, 2011

1) USFed is stuck at 0% for over two years and printing $1.7 trillion
in Quantitative Easing, otherwise called monetary hyper inflation. They
are not finished destroying both money and capital.

2) USFed tripled its balance sheet, with over half of it bonds of
exaggerated value, while it gobbled up toxic mortgage bonds as buyer of
last resort. The mortgage bonds have turned worthless. The USFed waits
for a housing revival to bail itself out, but it will not arrive.

3) Debt monetization has gone haywire, as over 70% of USTBond
sales from the USFed printing press. The QE was urgently needed, since
legitimate buyers vanished. Even the primary dealers have been reimbursed
in open market operations within a few weeks.

4) PIMCO has shed its entire USTreasury Bond holdings, seeing no
value. They joined many foreign creditors in an unannounced buyer boycott
in disgusted reaction to QE which is essentially a compulsory unilateral
debt writedown.

5) Growing USGovt deficits have run over $1.5 trillion annually, with
absent cuts, obscene entitlements, endless war. The prevailing short-term
0% interest rates are out of synch with exploding debt supply and rising
price inflation.

6) Unfunded USGovt liabilities total nearly $100 trillion for medicare,
social security, pensions, and more. The obligations are never included
in the official debt. It represents insult to injury within insolvency.

7) Standard & Poors warned that USGovt could lose AAA rating in lousy
credit outlook, one chance in three within the next two years. Ironically,
the announcement came on the day when the USGovt exceeded its debt
limit. The network news missed it.

8) State & Municipal debt have collapsed, as 41 states have huge
shortfalls, and four large states are broken. They might receive a
federal bailout. It could be called QE3, maybe QE4.

9) Coordinated USTBond purchases from Japanese sales have relieved the
USFed, as other major central banks act as global monetarist agents. The
sales by Japan are vast and growing. Witness the last phase in unwind of
Yen Carry Trade, where 0% borrowed Japanese money funded the USTreasury
Bonds and US Stocks.

10)Quantitative Easing, a catch word for extreme monetary inflation and
debt monetization, has become engrained into global central bank policy,
soon hidden. It is so controversial and deadly to the global financial
structures that it will go hidden, and attempt to avoid the furious anger
in feedback by global leaders. This is the most important and powerful
of all 50 factors in my view.

11)The FedFunds Rate is stuck near 0%, yet the actual CPI is near 10%,
for a real rate of interest of minus 9%. Historically a negative real
rate of interest has been the primary fuel for a Gold bull. This time
the fuel has been applied for a longer period of time, and a bigger
negative real rate than ever.

12)The USGovt claims to have 8000 tons of Gold in reserve, but it is
all in Deep Storage, as in unmined ore bodies. The collateral for the
USDollar and USTreasury debt is vacant. It is in raw form like in the
Rocky Mountain range or Sierra Nevada range.

13)Fast rising food prices, fast rising gasoline prices, and fast
rising metals, coffee, sugar, and cotton serve as testament to broad
price inflation. So far it has shown up on the cost structure. Either
the business sector will vanish from a cost squeeze or pass on higher
costs as end product and service price increases.

14)The entire world seeks to protect wealth from the ravages of inflation
& the American sponsored QE by buying Gold & Silver. The rest of the world
can spot price inflation more effectively than the US population. The
United States is subjected to the world's broadest and most pervasive
propaganda in the industrialized world.

15)The European sovereign debt breakdown with high bond yields in
PIIGS nations points out the broken debt foundation to the monetary
system. The solutions like with Greece in May 2010 were a sham, nothing
but a bandaid and cup of elixir. Spain is next to experience major
shocks that destabilize all of Europe again, this time much bigger than
Greece. The Portuguese Govt debt rises toward 10% on the 10-year yield,
while the Greek Govt debt has risen to reach 20% on the 2-year yield.



16)Germany is pushing for Southern Europe bank climax in their Euro
Central Bank rate hike. Europe will be pushed to crisis this year,
orchestrated by the impatient and angry Germans. They have no more
appetitive for $300 to $400 billion in annual welfare to the broken
nations in Southern Europe.

17)Isolation of the USFed and Bank of England and Bank of Japan has
come. The small rate hike by the European Central Bank separated them
finally. The Anglos with their Japanese lackeys are the only central
banks not raising rates. With isolation comes all the earmarks on the
path to the Third World.

18)The shortage of gold is acute, as 51 million gold bars have been sold
forward versus the 11 million held by the COMEX in inventory. Be sure
that hundreds of millions of nonexistent fractionalized gold ounces are
polluting the system. Word is getting out that the COMEX is empty of
precious metals.

19)Such extreme Silver shortage has befallen the COMEX that the corrupted
metals exchange routinely offers cash settlement in silver with a 25%
bonus if a non-disclosure agreement is signed. The practice cannot be
kept under wraps, as some hedge funds push for fat returns in under two
months holding positions with delivery demanded.

20)China has begun grand initiatives to replace its precious metal
stockpiles. They are pursuing the Yuan currency to become a global reserve
currency. As they build collateral for the Yuan, they are also elevating
Silver as reserves asset.



21)A global shortage of Gold & Silver has been realized in national mint
production. From the United States to Canada to Australia to Germany,
shortages exist. Many interruptions will continue amidst the shortages,
which feed the publicity.

22)The Teddy Roosevelt stockpile of 6 million Silver ounces was depleted
in 2003. He saw the strategic importance of Silver for industrial and
military applications. The USEconomy and USMilitary will turn into
importers on the global market.

23)The betrayal of China by USGovt in Gold & Silver leases is a story
coming out slowly. The deal was cut in 1999, associated with Most Favored
Nation granted to China. But the Wall Street firms broke the deal,
betrayed the Chinese, and angered them into highly motivated action. No
longer are the Chinese big steady USTBond buyers, part of the deal also.

24)Every single US financial market has been undermined and corrupted from
grotesque intervention, constant props, and fraudulent activity. The
degradation has occurred under the watchful eyes of compromised
regulators. Fraud like the Flash Crash and NYSE front running by Goldman
Sachs is protected by the FBI henchmen.

25)The USEconomy operates on a global credit card, enabling it to live
beyond its means. The USGovt exploits the compulsory foreign extension
of credit in USTBonds, by virtue of the USDollar acting as global
reserve currency. Foreign nations are compelled to participate but that
is changing.



26)The USMilitary conducts endless war adventures for syndicate
profits. They use the USTreasury Bond as a credit card. The wars cost
of $1 billion per day is considered so sacred, that it is off the table
in USGovt budget call negotiations, debates, and agreements.

27)Narcotics funds have proliferated under the USMilitary aegis. The
vertically integrated narcotics industry is the primary plank of nation
building in Afghanistan. The funds keep the big US banks alive from vast
money laundering.

28)No big US bank liquidations have occurred, despite their deep
insolvency. Any restructure toward recovery would have the liquidations
are the first step. The USEconomy is stuck in a deteriorating swamp
since the Too Big To Fail mantra prevents the urgent but missing step.

29)The unprosecuted multi-$trillion bond fraud over the last decade has
harmed the US image, prestige, and leadership. The main perpetrators are
the Wall Street bankers and their lieutenants appointed at Fannie Mae
and elsewhere. They bankers most culpable remain in charge at the USDept
Treasury and other key supporting posts like the FDIC, SEC, and CFTC.

30)The ugly daughters Fannie Mae and AIG are forever entombed in
the USGovt. They operate as black hole expenses whose fraud must be
contained. The costs involved are in the $trillions, all hidden from view
like the fraud. Fannie Mae remains the main clearinghouse for several
$trillion fraud programs still in operation.

31)The US banking system cannot serve as an effective credit engine
dispenser, an important function within any modern economy. It is deeply
insolvent, and growing more insolvent as the property market sinks lower
in valuation. The banks lack reserves, and hide their condition by means
of the FASB permission to use fraudulent accounting.

32)The big US banks are beneficiary of continuous secret slush fund
support from the USGovt and USFed. Their sources and replenishments
have been gradually revealed. The TARP Fund event will go down in modern
history as the greatest theft the world has ever seen, easily eclipsing
the biggest mortgage bond fraud in history.

33)The insolvent big US banks continue to sit at the USGovt teat. The
vast umbilical cord of banker welfare has not gone away. Goldman Sachs
still is in control of the funding machinery.

34)The shadow banking system based upon credit derivatives keeps
interest rates near 0%. The usury cost of money is artificially low
near nothing. As money costs nothing, capital is actively and rapidly
destroyed.

35)A vast crime syndicate has taken control of the USGovt. A vast crime
syndicate has taken control of the USMilitary. A vast crime syndicate
has taken control of the USCongress. A vast crime syndicate has taken
control of the US press networks.

36)A chronic decline of the US housing sector keeps the USEconomy in
a grand decline with constant deterioration. With one million bank
owned homes in inventory, a huge unsold overhang of supply prevents any
recovery of housing prices. Home equity continues to drain, and bank
balance sheets continue to erode.

37)Over 11 million US homes stand in negative equity. The sum equals to
23.1% of households. They will not participate much in the USEconomy,
except when given handouts. They have become downtrodden.

38)The USEconomy will not benefit from a export surge. The US industrial
base has no critical mass after 30 years of dispatch to the Pacific Rim
& China. The industry must contend with rising costs in offset to the
falling USDollar, which is cited as providing the mythical benefit. Then
can export in droves if they do so at a loss.
 

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39)A global revolt against the USDollar is in its third years. The global
players work to avoid the US$ usage in trade settlement. Several bilateral
swap facilities flourish, mostly with China. If China supplies products,
then the Yuan currency will be elevated to global reserve currency.

40)Global anger and resentment over three decades has spilled over. The
World Bank and IMF have been routinely used by the US bankers to safeguard
the USDollar and Anglo banker hegemony. Neither financial agency commands
the respect of yesteryear.

41)A middle phase has begun in a powerful Global Paradigm Shift. The
transfer moves power East where the wealth engines of industry lie,
far from the fraudulent banking centers. The next decade will feature
the Chinese as bankers, since their war chest contains over $3 trillion.

42)The crumbling global monetary system was built on toxic sovereign
debt. Legal tender has been nothing more than denominated debt posing
as legitimate by legal decree. That is what word FIAT means. The system
is gradually breaking in an irreversible manner.

43)The global central bank franchise system has been discredited. It is a
failure, which is not recognized by the bank leaders still in charge. The
stepwise process of ruin continues with a new sector falling every few
months. Next might be municipal bonds.

44)Witness the final phase of a systemic cycle, as the monetary system
has run its course. It is saturated with debt from faulty design. The
deception cited in the mainstream media focuses upon the credit cycle
which will renew. It will not. It will break of its own weight and
lost confidence.

45)The recognition has grown substantially that suppression of the
Gold price has been the anchor holding fiat system together. The
Chinese realize that Gold, when removed, leads to the collapse of the
US financial system. They realize it more than the US public. But the
syndicate in control of the USGovt understands the concept very well,
as they designed the system.

46)The institution of a high level global barter system might soon take
root. Gold will sit at its central core, providing stability. No deadbeat
nations will participate. That includes the United States and several
European nations. The barter system will be as effective as elegant.

47)The movements spread like wildfire in several US states to reinstitute
gold as money. In a few states, led by Utah and Virginia, progress has
been made for Gold to satisfy debts, public & private. Consider the
movement to be in parallel to the Tenth Amendment movements.

48)Anglo bankers have lost control in global banking politics. The phased
out G-7 Meeting is evidence. China has wrested control of G-20 Meeting,
and has dictated much of its agenda in the last few meetings. The US
has been reduced to a diminutive Bernanke and Geithner being ignored in
the corner.

49)New loud stirrings by Saudi Arabia seek a new security protector. If
security is no longer provided by the USMilitary, then the entire
defacto Petro-Dollar standard is put at risk. Remove the crude oil
sales in USDollars exclusively, and the US sinks into the Third World
with a USDollar currency that cannot stand on its own wretched wrecked
fundamentals.

50)The IMF solution to use SDR basket as global reserve is a final
desperate ploy. By fashioning a basket of major currencies in a basket,
they attempt to enforce a price fixing regime. It is a hidden FOREX
currency exchange rate price fixing gambit that will invite a Gold price
advance in uniform manner across the currencies bound together. This ploy
is being planned in order to prevent the USDollar from dying a horrible
death at the expense of the other major currencies. By that is meant at
the expense of the other major economies which would otherwise have to
operate at very high exchange rates.
 

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Jim Willie pretty much cover all the bases.
 

hinz

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I am betting on a 25 ---- 30% pullback in silver price within the next few months.

The appreciation in the price of gold has been more orderly than silver.
In fact much of its recent appreciation was driven by the decline in the
USD. Priced in loonie gold is still reasonably cheap IMO. I would put the
floor price for gold near $1300. My guess is that the downside is limited
and accumulation of gold bullion near its current price should be fine if your
time horizon is longer than 6 months. Further appreciation from the current
$1500 level would be mostly a reverse measure of the strength of the $USD.

Never like to give advice on stock picks. With gold I take
an exception. It is one asset I've urged close friends and extended
family members to accumulate to safeguard their financial health from
the US fiscal madness. The volatility of silver scares me. But if a major
pull back transpires as I anticipated I would increase the holding of
silver bullions in several stock portfolios I help manage. Silver could turn
out to be the investment opportunity of the century. While gold is the ultimate
money you won't want to live in a time when gold is actually used as currency.
The real money is silver.
25-30% pullback is peanuts when one could invest $10 per oz of silver in September 2008.

Who knows it turns out to be great investment when this is the same stuff Christians love to hate for eternity? :rolleyes:
 

nottyboi

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There is a lot of wierd stuff going on in the silver market. One example is the internet campaign to bankrupt JP Morgan which was said by those launching the campaign to be short silver. Personally I think this campaign was a market manipulation. It turns out JP is long silver and has made a KILLING. (surprise, surprise). But the market is small and thus can easily be manipulated. It will crash like everything else...when people need to liquidate silver to raise cash.
 

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There is a lot of wierd stuff going on in the silver market. One example is the internet campaign to bankrupt JP Morgan which was said by those launching the campaign to be short silver. Personally I think this campaign was a market manipulation. It turns out JP is long silver and has made a KILLING. (surprise, surprise). But the market is small and thus can easily be manipulated. It will crash like everything else...when people need to liquidate silver to raise cash.
How come you ignore HSBC, another alleged co-conspirator to short silver?

Speaking of weird stuff, what's going on in the silver market is not even close to the gold market, say some nut job/gold bugs repeatedly claim there are no gold bars in Fort Knox without evidences or another similar conspiracy where any so-called gold bars in the US reserve are bogus, like gold-plated Tungsten. :rolleyes:
 

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GE didn't have to pay tax because it has lost so much money in the downturn. Corporations, at least in the US, pay tax when they have net income. HTH.
 
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hinz

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GE didn't have to pay tax because it has lost so much money in the downturn. Corporations, at least in the US, pay tax when they have net income. HTH.
GE f*cked up big time in the downturn when the commercial paper market froze and the company relied heavily on the papers for daily operations.

BTW, no respectable Pinkos would want to hear this fact and subsequent consequences on tax returns in the following years. Their focus is straightly on killing the golden geese while fighting tooth and nail to keep the unsustainable entitlements for themselves and their kids. :rolleyes:
 
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burt-oh-my!

Well, I dont really have a strong opinion right now about the USD, but I suppose if you put a gun to my head I would vote FOR it rather than against it, over maybe a 2 year period against the Canadian $, strictly on the one-sided opinions againt it.

Gentlemen, at peaks, the view is always one-sided. Eleven years ago commodity prices were low, technology was king, and the Canadian $ was $.62. There was talk of an 'inevitable' drift down to 50 cents. To have bought it then you would need to have accurately forecast a complet 100% change in a number of factors. I<E you had to buy BEFORE the change in news occurred.

Most of the opinions I see against the USD are basically saying that the factors we see in place today are going to continue. they might. Or they might not. Commodities might fall, the US may start to make progress on expenses etc etc.

Show me a long list of wonderful factors in favour like wsa posted above supporting the Canadian $ which was written by the same author in 2001.
 

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The US is supposedly in a recovery yet they have borrowed or printed over 400 billion more than they took in in the last two months to keep their economy afloat.
 
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