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US Customs Agent: "I know what you are going to do. Be careful."

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A sex worker going to the US over the weekend had her phone inspected. "You are all getting burner phones these days," she was told by customs agent. "Going for sight seeing," she said. "I know what you are going to do. Be careful" she was let through with that warning.
Smacks of Gestapo tactics.
 

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A sex worker going to the US over the weekend had her phone inspected. "You are all getting burner phones these days," she was told by customs agent. "Going for sight seeing," she said. "I know what you are going to do. Be careful" she was let through with that warning.
Smacks of Gestapo tactics.
Oh yeah! The biggest mistake the ladies make if they frequent the US is exposing their faces or even some of it on Twitter and in photos.

Land of the free my ass!!!
 

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Be careful" she was let through with that warning.
Smacks of Gestapo tactics.
Keep in mind that those are American agents. The puritans south of the border.
 

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A sex worker going to the US over the weekend had her phone inspected. "You are all getting burner phones these days," she was told by customs agent. "Going for sight seeing," she said. "I know what you are going to do. Be careful" she was let through with that warning.
Smacks of Gestapo tactics.
Gestapo tactics against SWs in he US?? Next you'll be saying the Christian right doesn't like sex workers :rolleyes: ...
 

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Gestapo? They would have arrested her. The fact they let her in is surprising and kind almost opposite of gestapo.
 

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SW's would also have trouble entering Canada as well. I remember when the late beloved HOL1 said they couldn't bring American porn stars to Canada because many/most/all had criminal records.
 

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Canadian imperialism can rise in a flash. Look at Harper's total revamping of the laws That most people are against but nobody was willing to speak against because of taboo.. It takes very small group of puritans To wreck it for everybody.
 

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It is a known problem. The U.S. has an official policy, that stems from a law, that prohibits entry to the U.S. of any non-U.S. citizen or permanent resident reasonably believed to have offered sex for money in the past, although there are some time limits as to how far back they go in a lady’s life (presumably Grandma ain’t selling tail any longer). They have a pretty massive database of names and pictures.


Ridiculous? Of course.

But who is going to fight it?

It might surprise some of you folks, but the U.S. does have sex worker rights organizations that lobby and work with law enforcement. Some of their hard work has made it safe in the U.S. to see independents who screen, especially in more open-minded localities. Recently, their work has shifted more “to the left” in trying to eliminate laws and enforcement of policies directed at “loitering for prostitution” which provides a better life for street-based survival sex workers. Most Johns who see upper-end, higher priced escorts have no interaction with the lower-end of that scene, but I suppose we should admire the work of the sex worker rights groups.

I mention this half-humorously. The U.S. rights groups have always yawned and found something else to do when it comes to the subject of foreign sex workers, who often tour the U.S. at prices below the very high U.S. rates, being denied entry. Those policies are certainly a human rights issue, but it is doubtful that U.S. sex workers will ever lobby too much for their foreign sisters.

It might also surprise some of you who don’t travel much that crossing borders as a U.S. citizen, especially into Canada, is not hassle free. Canada is much more intrusive than Europe, where they say “Welcome”. The article I linked to has mention of a U.K. sex worker being questioned at length in Vancouver, but was allowed entry. U.S. guys know to delete their internet browsing and search history, especially for Terb, Merb and Perb., when entering Canada. And to not have an open text conversation with an escort or agency. Phone searches do occur, and there was one credible report of a denial of entry at the Montreal airport based on phone searches, although the reasons have been vague and do not directly mention the intent to see sex workers. And the guy posting about it had a bad attitude and said it was because he was Asian, so who knows what he said to the Border Agent. But it is good to understand that there are no real Due Process rights for non-citizens at any border crossing.

Not saying that the U.S. isn’t the worst. Of course it is. But clearing a phone of evidence, and not having automatic passwords that grant entry into your Hobby Email, is Basic 101 stuff when crossing the Canadian border. And even when a U.S. citizen crosses back into the U.S. after traveling, he needs to be cognizant of what is on a phone or computer. The U.S. extends its law prohibiting sex with minors to its citizens and permanent residents when traveling outside the U.S., regardless of the age of consent law in the foreign countries. For a single male traveler, or guys traveling in groups, coming back from a country, such as Thailand, believed to have the availability of underaged sex workers, U.S. Immigration is more likely to look through pictures on a phone or computer. You don’t want that Immigration person seeing sexy pictures and trying to decide if she is 18 or over.

The gist of the article is that the U.S. is building a massive database to use at Immigration, and even within the U.S., from daily life, both commercial and non-commercial, of U.S. and non U.S. people. Disturbing, and we all hope it doesn’t get adopted by other countries.

And hopefully, Canada always recognizes that U.S. guys spending money in Canada is a good thing and will always let such guys in. But it is still a good idea to not rub intentions in their face if a phone is searched.
 

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Canadian imperialism can rise in a flash. Look at Harper's total revamping of the laws That most people are against but nobody was willing to speak against because of taboo.. It takes very small group of puritans To wreck it for everybody.
Exactly and if Pee Pee and the NeoCons win be prepared for BillC36 to be improved and enhanced US style.
 

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Custom agent have a boring job that does not pay well. Never pissed them off or try to play big shot with them. Say as little as possible and be more polite the polite.

I know a few sex worker who show full face and are regular travellers to the US. They know what to say so custom always let them in.
 

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Oh yeah! The biggest mistake the ladies make if they frequent the US is exposing their faces or even some of it on Twitter and in photos.

Land of the free my ass!!!
A second phone or app should be used. Apps can be deleted when travelling across. I would forward my phone to an app if a second phone and use that while touring the US.

Email apps should be deleted. Calendar etc.

I hook up my mail accounts to my phone and then delete them when travelling. Any info I need saved is saved on my servers which are overseas and nothing is store on my phone.

When I cross back, I install my mail account on my phone again and everything is there.

These account now access your phone contacts, your calendars, emails etc. it is the easiest and fastest way to remove info from your phone in bulk and still have it saved safe and securely.

People don’t realize what the US has access to. They can search your credit card statements. If they see you purchase legal weed in a legal store, they can deny you entry. I had to always buy my medical marijuana on a prepaid money mart CC so they can’t access my CC statements and deny me.
 
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People don’t realize what the US has access to. They can search your credit card statements. If they see you purchase legal weed in a legal store, they can deny you entry. I had to always buy my medical marijuana on a prepaid money mart CC so they can’t access my CC statements and deny me.
Yeah, they are sneaky and have their ways. I would also suggest if travelling alone dress down. Track pants, hoody, very little makeup. Remove any possible red flags they are looking for.
 
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I know that Madison Winter got banned for 5 or 10 years, even when she was not showing her face. And I distinctly remember her saying "Fuck it" and going face out right after. She posted on twitter about it, a few years ago. Somehow the facial recognition software still detected her. I think it doesn't just use objective data, but extrapolates using data available. Like if the contours of your face are showing, it can extrapolate features and still detect you. Very intrusive and scary.
Yeah. You have a chin showing in one pic. A semi side view on the next that shows your ear. And the last pic shows your hairline and they have you. LOL.
 

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A sex worker going to the US over the weekend had her phone inspected. "You are all getting burner phones these days," she was told by customs agent. "Going for sight seeing," she said. "I know what you are going to do. Be careful" she was let through with that warning.
Smacks of Gestapo tactics.
I’m sure that she looked like a civilian and that conversation was totally uncalled for 🙄
 

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I don’t think that a newly elected Con government under Poilievre will stir up enforcement of Bill C36 which could result in the Supreme Court striking the law down and forcing him to write a new law on Canadian prostitution, in fact no PM wants that. Poilievre is going to so preoccupied with the Canadian economic situation and blaming everything that ails Canada onTrudeau that the last thing he wants is to be compelled to rewrite a Harper law that he voted for.
 

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I know that Madison Winter got banned for 5 or 10 years, even when she was not showing her face. And I distinctly remember her saying "Fuck it" and going face out right after. She posted on twitter about it, a few years ago. Somehow the facial recognition software still detected her. I think it doesn't just use objective data, but extrapolates using data available. Like if the contours of your face are showing, it can extrapolate features and still detect you. Very intrusive and scary.

Freedom for the rich, and elite group.?
 
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If you have a criminal record in Canada , then it is very difficult to enter the USA as their border agents use CPIC. If you have a police record ( known to the police for whatever reasons) , then it seems that US border agents may have access to this information also and may allow or deny entry. I know of one Toronto “ working lady” who is without a criminal conviction but cannot enter the US as they know her purpose.
 

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Gestapo? They would have arrested her. The fact they let her in is surprising and kind almost opposite of gestapo.
Big tourism push, next they'll be handing out condoms...
 
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