Upper Canada village

[Big Rig]

Pulled my rig into their parking lot and stayed there for a day. It takes 2 days to see all of this amazing place. I learned a ton of stuff.

Amazing place with actors playing their 1850 roles and answering questions.

Back then you were a staunch Christian or pretended to be or you got ostracised.

For example, big money maker was heavily salted cheese they sold to England. On Sunday you threw the milk away instead of making cheese as you were not allowed to work on the Lords Day. Sad.

Women were accompanied in public and rarely travelled alone.

The question I wanted to ask was how did anyone get laid?

In London prostitution was legal in the Victorian age but in a country village in Ontario were there MPs ?

 

[Mr Bret]

They put on a very picturesque display with lights during the winter. Usually around Christmas, but depends on the weather.

 

[basketcase]

I'm sure most villages had a tavern where loose women worked.

 

[Jeffrey93]

Getting laid was an ordeal.... There was no toothpaste, no shampoo, no hot running water - everybody was filthy and horribly stinky....it wasn't as nice as Upper Canada Village

 

[Zoot Allures]

Getting laid was an ordeal.... There was no toothpaste, no shampoo, no hot running water - everybody was filthy and horribly stinky....it wasn't as nice as Upper Canada Village

I was there and you make a good point

I was thinking same thing

Place is sanitized

No horse shit all over the place

I was thinking everyone jumped into the St Lawrence after a day of work

No deodorant spray

Shaving was an ordeal

got a toothache? Doctor pulls out tooth with no pain killer

Also, no blacks, as every actor was white

WTF? Did not the blacks come to Canada to escape slavery?

 

[Aardvark154]

Also, no blacks, as every actor was white

WTF? Did not the blacks come to Canada to escape slavery?

Were very, very much a minority, particularity in rural areas.

 

[corrie fan]

This article tells about the history of the sex trade in Canada. It says there where brothels in large cities in the 1800s that were usually tolerated.
www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/prostitution/

My Dad told me there was a house down the road from where we live in a small town where there lived a watchmaker. His daughters were working girls. This would have been in the 1930s. There is another house in the area that has no windows on the north side. The story is that it was built this way so the young women in the family would not be corrupted by the goings on at the hotel north of the house.

 

[Big Rig]

Yes, place is very sanitized or tourist would not come.

I wonder if people were sexually frigid in 1850. They must of been ignorant about how to achieve orgasms . Oral sex was no doubt taboo and never discussed.

As far as prostitutes in a country village in 1850, how many do you see in a country village today?

 

[Aardvark154]

Prostitution in Nineteenth Century North America was largely a function of unattached men with money in their pockets. That would not have been the case in settled farming areas such as Whitchurch Township, Morrisburg, Prince Edward County, or the Kingston Peninsula of New Brunswick.

It was very much true of logging towns (for instance Williamsport, Pennsylvania or Bangor, Maine), seaports, mining towns (for instance Whitehorse), or transportation hubs (for instance Calgary & Edmonton).

 

[Big Rig]

Prostitution in Nineteenth Century North America was largely a function of unattached men with money in their pockets. That would not have been the case in settled farming areas such as Whitchurch Township, Morrisburg, Prince Edward County, or the Kingston Peninsula of New Brunswick.

It was very much true of logging towns (for instance Williamsport, Pennsylvania or Bangor, Maine), seaports, mining towns (for instance Whitehorse), or transportation hubs (for instance Calgary & Edmonton).

Makes sense.

The thing to remember is that prostitution is not illegal in 1850 so how can it be stopped?

In a family farming village you would have the church and womens groups enforcing morality through social pressure is my guess. Not so much in the places you mentioned with single men

I doubt there would be any prostitutes in a farming village but still it is legal so maybe I am wrong.

I did not see any actors there pretending to be bar girls but that may be because they are giving into modern social pressures to keep the re-enactment family orientated.

Now if you go to a re-enactment in Dawson City there are bar girls no doubt.

 

[Aardvark154]

I did not see any actors there pretending to be bar girls but that may be because they are giving into modern social pressures to keep the re-enactment family orientated.

In a small farming village in Upper Canada such as Morrisburg or in a similar village such as Prince William, New Brunswick (King's Landing) there almost certainly weren't Bar Girls in the 1850's so making it "family friendly" in this case is also making it historically accurate. There might have been serving girls but they would have been relatives of the Tavern Keeper and a passing stranger attempting to "put the moves on them" would have had very much the same sort of negative consequences that it would today in a small town family restaurant.

Now as you mention in a saloon in the 19th century West (be that Dawson City or a fictional Westworld ) there would certainly have been bar girls.

 

[Big Rig]

In a small farming village in Upper Canada such as Morrisburg or in a similar village such as Prince William, New Brunswick (King's Landing) there almost certainly weren't Bar Girls in the 1850's so making it "family friendly" in this case is also making it historically accurate. There might have been serving girls but they would have been relatives of the Tavern Keeper and a passing stranger attempting to "put the moves on them" would have had very much the same sort of negative consequences that it would today in a small town family restaurant.

Now as you mention in a saloon in the 19th century West (be that Dawson City or a fictional Westworld ) there would certainly have been bar girls.

I suspect you are right but why are you so certain ?

 

[stevieray]

Ok, first off, I`m confused. I keep seeing the year 1850 referenced. Where did that come from? Whenever I visited U.C.V., I was told that it was a representation of daily life as it (supposed was) in Upper Canada at the time of Confederation, 1867, not 1850.

People were most definitely having sex back then, because you always hear stories of these huge families, with, say, a dozen or so kids. My late Grandfather, born in the 1890`s had 11 siblings. It was probably due to a high infant mortality rate, many babies didn`t survive infancy, and lack of contraception. Oops! There`s anther one! lol

 

[Aardvark154]

I suspect you are right but why are you so certain ?

Before I went into the law I did an M.A. in History, my best friend did a thesis on Nineteenth Century prostitution in a nearby former Lumber City. I wasn't in the hobby then, but I did absorb what my classmate told me of their findings. Then I combine that with what I know of history and add some genealogy and to paraphrase a certain movie: "There you go."

 

[Aardvark154]

Ok, first off, I`m confused. I keep seeing the year 1850 referenced. Where did that come from? Whenever I visited U.C.V., I was told that it was a representation of daily life as it (supposed was) in Upper Canada at the time of Confederation, 1867, not 1850.

You are doubtless correct. King's Landing is set just a bit earlier, further I have a personal bias towards earlier.

 

[Big Rig]

Ok, first off, I`m confused. I keep seeing the year 1850 referenced. Where did that come from? Whenever I visited U.C.V., I was told that it was a representation of daily life as it (supposed was) in Upper Canada at the time of Confederation, 1867, not 1850.

People were most definitely having sex back then, because you always hear stories of these huge families, with, say, a dozen or so kids. My late Grandfather, born in the 1890`s had 11 siblings. It was probably due to a high infant mortality rate, many babies didn`t survive infancy, and lack of contraception. Oops! There`s anther one! lol

I was told 1850 but things changed slowly then so I do not think 1870 would have been any different.

Of course they had sex then , the bible orders one to be fruitful. My question is the type of sex. Somehow, I do not imagine them having tantric sex.

I was hearing some fundamentalists on the radio discussed sex. The bible does not mention how to do it so apparently it is OK to enjoy it.

WTF ? If some nutbar in the second century decided to put how enjoyment of sex is the devils work then Christians would not be allowed to enjoy sex.

Religion is evil.

 

[Zoot Allures]

Save the ticket and get into Fort Henry in Kingston.

 

[happydog]

Is Fort York worth checking out as well as an appetizer when visiting Toronto? (i don't get to east Ontario much)

 

[spankingman]

Is Fort York worth checking out as well as an appetizer when visiting Toronto? (i don't get to east Ontario much)

IMHO Fort GEORGE in Niagara on the Lake is a MUCH better depiction of the 1812 period than Fort York. FG is run by Parks Canada hence more money spent on it.

 

[Aardvark154]

WTF ? If some nutbar in the second century decided to put how enjoyment of sex is the devils work then Christians would not be allowed to enjoy sex.

As St. Augustine supposedly prayed Lord make me chaste but not yet!