I suspect that they are not.
The current rightie troll-speak on Twitter is that "a mere district judge cannot curb the President of the USA". This is of course bullshit, but the dum-dums and fascists cheer it on.
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The current rightie troll-speak on Twitter is that "a mere district judge cannot curb the President of the USA". This is of course bullshit, but the dum-dums and fascists cheer it on.
That's the big question.
There is already evidence Trump/Musk have been just ignoring court orders.
We don't know.
Some for sure yes, some for sure no.
There have been a lot, though, and I don't know of someone who has been tracking all of them.
But if the chief judge says:
"Motherfucker, we won't allow you to defend this Billion $$$$$ lawsuit from XYZ Corp because you are flagrantly in contempt of other past rulings of this court", Trump is completely fucked.
Judges will do shit like that to get your attention.
He broke no laws and protested genocide in a foreign country.Wiki discussion of the Mahmoud Khalil case. The Islamic campus protestor ordered deported for pro Islamic statements re Palestine.
Detention of Mahmoud Khalil - Wikipedia
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Khalil has not been charged with a crime,[51] is not alleged to have engaged in any activity legally prohibited to U.S. residents,[52] and authorities have not alleged he provided material support to a proscribed organization.[35] Removal procedures were initiated under section 237(a)(4)(C)(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which permits deportation of lawful residents if the Secretary of State believes that their presence presents a risk of "potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences".[53] Khalil's attorneys have called this an "obscure" and "rarely used" section of the act.[52] Judge Maryann Trump Barry previously found this section unconstitutional in Massieu v. Reno, though that ruling was reversed by a court of appeals for reasons unrelated to the constitutional issues, which the court of appeals did not address.[54][55]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Mahmoud_Khalil#cite_note-58
Greer filed a petition for writ of habeas corpus in the Southern District of New York on March 9, and the next day Judge Jesse Furman ruled that Khalil could not be removed from the U.S. while the court assessed the case.[57] At a March 12 hearing, the government argued for a change of venue to either New Jersey or Louisiana, where Khalil had been held in detention.[58] His lawyers asked that he be returned to New York. Furman ordered that Khalil be allowed two attorney-client-privileged phone calls, and that both the government and Khalil's lawyers submit plans on March 14 for further arguments.[59] Khalil has separately been scheduled for a hearing before a Louisiana immigration judge on March 27.[53]
On March 13, attorneys for Khalil filed an amended petition for writ of habeas corpus, adding Trump, Rubio and others as respondents.[60] In addition to Amy Greer, Khalil's legal representation includes attorneys from the American Civil Liberties Union,[60] Creating Law Enforcement Accountability & Responsibility (CLEAR),[61] and the Center for Constitutional Rights.[62] CLEAR is a legal aid group at the City University of New York (CUNY) School of Law.[61][63]
Government statements
Government officials have informally accused Khalil of leading "activities aligned with Hamas"; the government has not publicly provided any evidence of this claim.[64][65] Khalil denies the accusation and his attorneys called it "false and preposterous".[35][66] White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt also alleged Khalil distributed flyers with a Hamas logo;[67] as of mid-March, neither Leavitt nor ICE publicly provided proof of the existence of such flyers, though Leavitt claimed the flyers were being stored on or inside her desk.[67][68] The Trump administration defended its action, with Secretary of State Marco Rubio announcing plans to revoke more people's visas or green cards.[69]
Department of Homeland Security deputy secretary Troy Edgar defended the detention. When asked to explain what conduct merited Khalil's removal from the U.S., and specifically how Khalil had supported Hamas, Edgar said, "I think if he would have declared he's a terrorist, we would have never let him in." Throughout the interview, Edgar incorrectly called Khalil a visa holder, despite being corrected that Khalil is a legal permanent resident. [70][71]
Legal analysis
According to Adam Cox, a professor and immigration expert at New York University, a legal permanent resident can be deported for having been convicted of certain criminal offenses, and immigration laws in Congress can make a person deportable for some conduct that is not criminal. A non-citizen can also be deported if the State Department has reasonable grounds to believe that their presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences.[72]
Writing about the Khalil case, Just Security notes that in Bridges v. Wixon (1945), the Supreme Court protected an Australian union organizer from being deported for his pro-labor speech. The court ruled that the First Amendment was applicable to noncitizens. In the decades since, the Supreme Court allowed deportations of noncitizens involved in communist groups in Harisiades v. Shaughnessy, though it narrowly read First Amendment protections instead of rejecting their applicability.[73] Citing the same cases, Nadine Strossen states that constitutional issues are complex and not easily resolvable in cases like Khalil's.[74]
Related lawsuit
On March 13, the New York chapter of the Council on American–Islamic Relations said it had sued Columbia on behalf of Khalil and several other students and also sued the House of Representatives Committee on Education and Workforce on grounds related to Columbia's compliance with the committee's demand that it give the committee student records.[75][76][77]
For that the US will jail him and deport him.
trump will cut funding to Columbia and the 47% of students who are international are now warned not to come to the school.
All for Israel.
President Donald Trump invoked rarely used war powers in a bid to deport foreign nationals that the federal government deems to be members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua.
Trump’s proclamation — which was released by the White House Saturday afternoon but signed on Friday — relies on the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, which is meant to quickly remove foreigners during wartime or invasion, and comes hours after a preemptive order from a federal judge barred five Venezuelan nationals from being deported immediately.
It’s the latest sweeping executive action from the White House designed to speed up Trump’s efforts to deport millions of undocumented immigrants from the country.
“I find and declare that TdA is perpetrating, attempting, and threatening an invasion or predatory incursion against the territory of the United States,” Trump wrote in his declaration.
The order landed amid a scramble in multiple federal courts by foreign nationals who sued to block imminent deportations they were told were being initiated pursuant to Trump’s anticipated order.
The order directs Attorney General Pam Bondi to sign a letter within 60 days declaring this the policy of the U.S., and for the letter to be sent to every judge, including the justices on the Supreme Court, as well as the governor of every state.
Every immigrant that meets the description outlined in the order “are subject to immediate apprehension, detention, and removal.” It is not clear how many members of Tren de Aragua are currently in the United States — or how the government will make such designations.
Trump repeatedly suggested during his campaign he may turn to the Alien Enemies Act to aid his mass deportation plans, a promise he reiterated on Inauguration Day. The president said on Jan. 20 that he would use the wartime law to “direct our government to use the full and immense power of federal and state law enforcement to eliminate the presence of all foreign gangs and criminal networks bringing devastating crime to U.S. soil, including our cities and inner cities.”
He also moved last month to designate eight Latin American cartels, including Tren de Aragua, as foreign terrorist organizations.
“We’ll be reading a lot of stories tomorrow about what we’ve done with them,” Trump said at the Justice Department on Friday, speaking about Tren De Aragua. “You’ll be very impressed, and you feel a lot safer, because they are a vicious group.”
Hours before the president’s proclamation was published online, U.S. District Judge James Boasberg issued the urgent ruling blocking the deportations. He cited “exigent circumstances,” issuing his order just hours after a lawsuit was filed on behalf of five Venezuelan men who say they have been cued up for deportation within hours or days as a result of Trump’s expected decision to invoke the Alien Enemies Act.
Boasberg, the chief judge for the federal district court in Washington, D.C., also called for a hearing Saturday afternoon on the lawsuit’s effort to ensure anyone else targeted by Trump’s expected invocation is protected from immediate deportation.
The lawsuit, filed by Democracy Forward and the ACLU, emphasizes that the Alien Enemies Act has only been invoked during wartime — the War of 1812, World War I and World War II. The order by Boasberg was issued with unusual urgency, before the Trump administration had a chance to respond.
But the administration quickly filed with the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, asking Saturday afternoon for an emergency stay of Boasberg’s ruling. In their motion, the administration said that the argument over the use of the Alien Enemies Act was hypothetical — which is no longer the case — and “fundamentally a political question to be resolved by the President.”
Attorneys for the five Venezuelans say the order could subject “countless Venezuelans” to “imminent risk of deportation without any hearing or meaningful review.” The five men who filed the initial lawsuit say they were informed by immigration authorities to expect deportation as soon as Saturday night.
Boasberg’s Saturday order prevents any of the five plaintiffs from being deported for 14 days.
The centuries-old law allows the government to arrest, detain and deport undocumented migrants over the age of 14 who come from countries threatening an “invasion or predatory incursion” of the United States.
Those targeted under the wartime law would be swiftly deported and would not be allowed to have an asylum interview or an immigration court hearing. They would instead be detained and deported with little due process.
Since he took office, federal judges have issued a handful of rulings to slow or halt components of Trump’s immigration crackdown amid a blitz of lawsuits claiming aspects of those efforts ran afoul of the law or constitution. Judges have ordered the administration to lift a total freeze on refugee admissions and blocked enforcement actions at some places of worship.
Most notably, several federal courts have issued nationwide blocks on Trump’s effort to redefine the Constitution’s birthright citizenship clause to exclude children of undocumented immigrants.
“There is so much urgency here, and so much harm at stake,” said ACLU attorney Lee Gelernt, who is representing the Venezuelan nationals, at a Saturday hearing. “The government appears to be moving planes very rapidly, our understanding is that planes are going right now.”
On Saturday afternoon, flight tracking databases showed three flights scheduled to depart from the Harlingen, Texas, airport on planes operated by a company that contracts with Immigration & Customs Enforcement to do deportation flights. Two of the aircraft registered flight plans headed for Honduras and one for El Salvador.
Video posted online Saturday showed a bus approaching the airport accompanied by law enforcement vehicles. According to the post, immigration lawyer Jaime Diez recorded the images of immigrants from the El Valle detention center in Raymondville, Texas being transferred for deportation.
Earlier Saturday, Diez won an order from a federal judge in Brownsville barring the deportation of Venezuelan Daniel Zacarias Matos. According to a court filing, Zacarias Matos was told Friday he was being taken to the airport to be deported “due to an order from the President,” but the flight didn’t take off because “it did not pass an inspection.”
One of the Honduras flights took off during a break in Boasberg’s hearing, the databases showed. The status of the other two flights is unclear.
Ali Bianco and Josh Gerstein contributed to this report.
Hold on Mandy...would it be ok for Trump to defy Supreme court ruling?.........the way Joe Biden did? Or is that a "fascist move".
Trumpnis basically pushing the envelope but all within the rules...he appeals...he at least does it...
He's proving every lefty wrong....
And @squeezer ... you still can't call him racist and misogynist...lol..
Denying due process is not within the rules.
It is infact against the rules.
Chief judge?
Who would this chief judge be?
(I'm just trying to figure out what level of court you think this could happen in.)
Bold face and italics from me for emphasis.
The judge issued his order but one plane already took off and we don't know what happened to the other two.
I haven't yet seen reporting on whether that first one turned back or what have you.
He appeals, but so far his appeals have simply confirmed the lower court rulings.
Please point to the defiance by Biden in question.
How you defy the court has a lot to do with how one should judge the action.
Things like due process and following the law... I know these might be confusing to you, but they matter.
This is the exact discussion we are having, aren't we?
What is he doing that is flagrant law breaking, what will the courts allow, and what will he do when checked?
He's proved most every warning (whether from "a lefty" or not) correct and he clearly is a racist and misogynist so I don't know why you think squeezer can't call him that.
To be fair, their argument tends to be "these people aren't actually owed due process, so we aren't breaking the rules".
