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Unprotected oral sex is being blamed for the rise of 'super gonorrhoea'

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Vay-guhss, Bay-bee!
n the 80s it was AIDS
In the 90s ir was Hep C
In the 00s it was HPV
Now it's "Super G" (which has been written about for several years now)
People are still having sex.

The Super G thingie does raise some interesting issues. At what point does evolution beat antibiotics? What was once cured by 1M IU of penacillin, is now cured by (usually) single-dose cipro/zithro or a shot of Rocephin.
 

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Is this the end of BBBJDTCIMSW from random girls? I had chlamidia once 5 years ago and it was one of the most uncomfortable weeks of my life. It's constantly stingingly painful and you dread every time you have to take a piss. I couldn't even imagine having those symptoms permanently. Also if you leave the infection untreated there's a chance it will spread into your testicles potentially leaving you sterile.

The thread on the public service announcements about the guy who tried to notify the girl who gave it to him, but she ignored him is also worrying. She should be outed because she's continuing to spread it. I was also talking to another girl recently who said her friend recently got it in the back of her throat. Worrying times.
 

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From twitter there are a lot of warnings going around from the Australian and European providers. Many of them are refusing bbbj anymore because of this. It's definitely worrisome and something we have to keep our ear to the ground about. If it's antibiotic resistant its nothing any of us want to deal with that's for sure. Please gents make sure you get tested as well, this is how it's being spread from gent to provider from bbbj.
More than likely the end of the bbbj....
 

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Though the incidence of venereal disease is twice as high in the promiscuous segment of the general population as among streetwalkers and only 3 to 5% of venereal disease in the United States is related to prostitution (compared to 35% from adolescents), the myth doggedly persists that whores spread disease. When one further considers that some studies have shown STD rates up to 80x higher in streetwalkers than in other types of prostitutes, this means that the incidence of STDs in promiscuous non-prostitutes is up to 160x that in escorts, and that escorts and brothel workers together account for only about 0.4% of the sexually transmitted disease in the United States. Yet every legalization regime includes mandatory (and often invasive) “health checks”, while 95-97% of STDs are spread by the good, “clean” members of the general population who can legally screw anybody they like without even the most cursory or sporadic health checks and face neither stigma nor revocation of their professional credentials should they turn up infected.
 

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Read more at http://www.redorbit.com/news/health...td_risk_than_prostitutes/#F4hEeKkHvpdL2IBr.99



-- The U.S. Department of Health consistently reports that only 3-5% of the sexually transmitted disease in this country is related to prostitution (compared with 30-35% among teenagers). There is no statistical indication in the U.S. that prostitutes are vectors of HIV. Although a small percentage of prostitutes may be HIV positive, William Darrow, CDC AIDS epidemiology official, cites no proven cases of HIV transmission from prostitutes to clients.(8)

http://www.bayswan.org/stats.html
 

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This is really old news - at least six years old (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellne...er-antibiotic-resistant-std/story?id=14027745) - from the same people (WHO) that that brought the mostly fake swine flu scare. They seem announce this every two years. Maybe it's a funding thing. Nobody seems to be saying how many actually cases of the "super strain" are there been this year and where. I think its very few actually, like 5 and none in North America ? If someone could find that information it would help bring some context to this let's all know how big a threat this. It would all this "Chicken Little" behaviour.
 

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-- The U.S. Department of Health consistently reports that only 3-5% of the sexually transmitted disease in this country is related to prostitution (compared with 30-35% among teenagers). There is no statistical indication in the U.S. that prostitutes are vectors of HIV. Although a small percentage of prostitutes may be HIV positive, William Darrow, CDC AIDS epidemiology official, cites no proven cases of HIV transmission from prostitutes to clients.(8)

http://www.bayswan.org/stats.html
While not trying to minimize the veracity of your information, some of it is rather dated. i.e., the USDH info compiled from the 1980s, another source 2010, and another 2011. Much can happen in a six year time span. I've attached a 2016 CDC fact sheet regarding the increased incidence of drug-resistant gonorrhea. The real kicker pointed out by the WHO report, and shouldn't comes as a surprise, is that there's no money in it for commercial pharmaceutical companies to increase their R&D efforts, i.e., the problem hasn't reached a "critical mass" in their eyes where widespread public health problem existed such as HIV or AIDS. When public pressure was created, government was forced to respond and likewise big pharma.

Until this issue reaches critical mass, and regardless of the population understudy, although sadly any movement will occur in the western countries and those European nations where their citizens have wealth, I expect the WHO will continue to sound the alarm, but big pharma won't move until they see it impacting their bottom line, i.e., more profits.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/factsheets/drug-resistant-gonorrhea.pdf

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2017/Antibiotic-resistant-gonorrhoea/en/

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jan/26/big-pharmas-worst-nightmare
 

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This is really old news - at least six years old (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellne...er-antibiotic-resistant-std/story?id=14027745) - from the same people (WHO) that that brought the mostly fake swine flu scare. They seem announce this every two years. Maybe it's a funding thing. Nobody seems to be saying how many actually cases of the "super strain" are there been this year and where. I think its very few actually, like 5 and none in North America ? If someone could find that information it would help bring some context to this let's all know how big a threat this. It would all this "Chicken Little" behaviour.
Read post 13.

An important point to note is that the WHO utilizes data over a six year period. Their data interpretation showed a tremendous increase in the drug-resistant strain.
 

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This is really old news - at least six years old (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellne...er-antibiotic-resistant-std/story?id=14027745) - from the same people (WHO) that that brought the mostly fake swine flu scare. They seem announce this every two years. Maybe it's a funding thing. Nobody seems to be saying how many actually cases of the "super strain" are there been this year and where. I think its very few actually, like 5 and none in North America ? If someone could find that information it would help bring some context to this let's all know how big a threat this. It would all this "Chicken Little" behaviour.
I agree! This is an old news but here is a "revolutionary new" practice.

If you eating bogies, it will heal you. Read this! :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/05/eating-bogies-good-teeth-overall-health-scientists-conclude/

So if you afraid from "super gonorrhea" here is my advice:

After the swallow or the deep licking parts, just take a little snot as a dessert and no problemo. ....LOL
As you can read it's good against HIV too.:)
 

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is that there's no money in it for commercial pharmaceutical companies to increase their R&D efforts, i.e.,
Plus, there is no well organized well funded very vocal advocacy group(s) constantly complaining to Big Pharma and governments.
 

dbiz2

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This is really old news - at least six years old (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellne...er-antibiotic-resistant-std/story?id=14027745) - from the same people (WHO) that that brought the mostly fake swine flu scare. They seem announce this every two years. Maybe it's a funding thing. Nobody seems to be saying how many actually cases of the "super strain" are there been this year and where. I think its very few actually, like 5 and none in North America ? If someone could find that information it would help bring some context to this let's all know how big a threat this. It would all this "Chicken Little" behaviour.
According to the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRP), "to date, three countries—Japan, France, and Spain—have reported 'superbug' strains of gonorrhea that are resistant to all current forms of treatment." (7/6/17). Additionally, the CIDRP reported that "In September 2016, public health officials in Hawaii reported a cluster of N gonorrhea isolates from seven people that showed high resistance to azithromycin and reduced susceptibility to ceftriaxone—the first such cases reported in the United States. All seven patients were successfully treated."

So to your point, and what I previously stated, a critical mass? Not yet if your big pharma seeking to profit. Ultimately, it'll take that one focusing event to start policy changes to address the issue. Once that happens, R&D dollars will flow and the ROI for big pharma will be profitable.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2017/07/global-officials-warn-pan-resistant-gonorrhea
 

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DATY is still safe right?

would "suck" having to wear a dam. DATY is the only way I know to make a woman orgasm with 100% success. I've never made them cum by virtue of my cock alone.

I read some articles in passing about DATY being linked to throat cancer but nothing concrete. From my readings it seems safe to perform in terms of STDs too.
 

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From twitter there are a lot of warnings going around from the Australian and European providers. Many of them are refusing bbbj anymore because of this. It's definitely worrisome and something we have to keep our ear to the ground about. If it's antibiotic resistant its nothing any of us want to deal with that's for sure. Please gents make sure you get tested as well, this is how it's being spread from gent to provider from bbbj.

I have read the article in question, and do find it interesting (and disturbing). That being said, I am skeptical about whether the strain of antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea can be directly linked specifically to unprotected oral sex, as opposed to unprotected sexual activities more broadly. I have read somewhere before (can't immediately recall the publication -- will link to it once I find it), which indicate that unprotected (vaginal and anal) sex has been on the rise among younger sexually active people, and that sexually transmitted infections (STIs) apart from HIV in general have been on the rise in this population.

I recall growing up during the height of the AIDS epidemic, with no viable treatment available (contracting HIV was the equivalent of a death sentence back then) and the sense of urgency in promoting safe sex practices that ensued to limit the spread of HIV (and STIs more broadly). I am speculating here, but I suspect that the development of anti-retroviral drugs -- a wonderful development which has enable HIV+ people to live longer, healthy lives, and turned AIDS from a death sentence to a chronic, manageable illness -- has led to (some) people taking a much more relaxed attitude in terms of STIs more broadly, taking for granted that treatments are always available, and thus have become less diligent in protecting themselves in terms of sex. Combine that with the widespread over-prescription and misuse of antibiotics and it's not hard to see how antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea can occur.

In summary, I completely agree about the importance of regular testing and screening (for both clients and SPs, and more broadly to all sexually active people) to ensure that we are able to contain the spread and limit exposure. At the same time, I don't think we need to be too concerned about BBBJ specifically, but that should be a judgement call between all parties in terms of what risks to accept.

Just my 2 cents on that front, FWIW.
 

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According to the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRP), "to date, three countries—Japan, France, and Spain—have reported 'superbug' strains of gonorrhea that are resistant to all current forms of treatment." (7/6/17). Additionally, the CIDRP reported that "In September 2016, public health officials in Hawaii reported a cluster of N gonorrhea isolates from seven people that showed high resistance to azithromycin and reduced susceptibility to ceftriaxone—the first such cases reported in the United States. All seven patients were successfully treated."

So to your point, and what I previously stated, a critical mass? Not yet if your big pharma seeking to profit. Ultimately, it'll take that one focusing event to start policy changes to address the issue. Once that happens, R&D dollars will flow and the ROI for big pharma will be profitable.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2017/07/global-officials-warn-pan-resistant-gonorrhea
You are not convincing. Still no recent stats. It appears if WHO refuses to state the number of cases of the totally resistant strain. Instead they chose confuse the issue including the partial partial resistant strains (your Hawaii cases- 7 seven cases which were all successfully treated) and indeed with overall numbers for the disease. I am not impressed with them repeating themselves ever 2 years in press conferences without full disclosure. Don't me start about stats of how many cases resulted from oral vs intercourse.

WHO is all about Shock and Awe and creating publicity. Since nobody listen to them on flu any more after that debacle I guess the they are worried about relevancy.
 
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