http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/OtherSports/2010/06/14/14381786.html
Head Coach, Denis McPhee's troops are sidelined because of steroids.
Head Coach, Denis McPhee's troops are sidelined because of steroids.
University of Waterloo football done before the season starts.
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Another destructive example of the cons of me graduating and leaving this university.
They need me.
They need me.
The strippers in the dorm have also disappeared. Hee, hee, hee. Insert "naked stripper in dorm" smilie here.
True to a certain extent, but I think it serves the dual purpose of A)sending a strong message as a deterrent to future players and B)showing the powers that be in College Football that they are taking it seriously and possibly avoiding a ban that may have been longer than the one year they have imposed upon themselves.
Suspension could have been longer for those that tested positive, and I have not heard if they are indeed suspended for two years. I think that despite the whole team getting tarred with the same brush, 9 of the athletes tested positive for anabolic steriods. And the coaches must take some responsiblity, as they might have known. I think the Athletic Director was also in his first year. I am sure there will be more to come, especially if the some of the athletes start talking.
OK tell that to the father of a UW player who was clean
It's and idiotic, gutless, and politically correct overreaction. Period.
Oh DJ, you haven't got a clue!
1. Former UW player Nathan Zetter, charged with possession and trafficking. (Police still investigating)
2. Jordan Meredith and Joe Surgenor suspended for 2 years. CIS career should be over not just suspended.
3. Biggest doping scandal in Canadian University Sports.
4. 9 positive tests on one team, you can be certain there are more using steroids.
The student-athlete is there for an education first and foremost. Any father and/or mother would be upset that their clean child isn't going to be able to play; however, they are attending school first, football second, and I would venture to say that parents would support the school for being concise on this matter and taking swift action. Father and/or mother would be thankful their son(s) are not using drugs. This will put the entire CIS and its athletes on notice, and the young men playing for Waterloo that are clean have an appeal process to transfer and not lose eligibilty. It hasn't been established yet, if those clean players will lose a year of eligibility.
Waterloo suspending the program, which I'm certain the university and CIS will be conducting in-depth review of this situation is sending the clear message that steroids and drugs period are not welcome in their school and sport association. Those young men who tested positive should also be expelled for using drugs.
It will be interesting to find out if Coach McPhee knew about this or encouraged this; I have known him for 25 years.
1. Former UW player Nathan Zetter, charged with possession and trafficking. (Police still investigating)
2. Jordan Meredith and Joe Surgenor suspended for 2 years. CIS career should be over not just suspended.
3. Biggest doping scandal in Canadian University Sports.
4. 9 positive tests on one team, you can be certain there are more using steroids.
The student-athlete is there for an education first and foremost. Any father and/or mother would be upset that their clean child isn't going to be able to play; however, they are attending school first, football second, and I would venture to say that parents would support the school for being concise on this matter and taking swift action. Father and/or mother would be thankful their son(s) are not using drugs. This will put the entire CIS and its athletes on notice, and the young men playing for Waterloo that are clean have an appeal process to transfer and not lose eligibilty. It hasn't been established yet, if those clean players will lose a year of eligibility.
Waterloo suspending the program, which I'm certain the university and CIS will be conducting in-depth review of this situation is sending the clear message that steroids and drugs period are not welcome in their school and sport association. Those young men who tested positive should also be expelled for using drugs.
It will be interesting to find out if Coach McPhee knew about this or encouraged this; I have known him for 25 years.
No decision is going to work for everyone. And as opposed to the U.S., a very, very small percentage of these players will be making their livelihood (and a Canadian livelihood is meagre) from football. Which also makes one wonder why they would do steroids. It's not like they will make millions like their American counterparts, so the risk reward ratio is totally unworthy of the risk.
More and more information is trickling out, CIS may increase both the number of athletes tested in all OUA sports next year, and more than likely test all the football players at all Universities this year. Or maybe longer. CIS wants to set the bar higher now. ALL OUA FOOTBALL PLAYERS take this warning now...
No one of you perfect little 4 points has anything to do with any of the other players.
Football is a team sport.
These men went to that school to play football. They could have gone anywhere to get an education.
This decision is reactionary PC bullshit.
Keep calling me names and insulting me that's fine, my opinion of you HOF is so low it's invisible.
Anyone who agrees with this decision knows nothing about team sports.
'nuf
So very very wrong. This is Canada, not the U.S.
I don't think there are football scholarships here. They go for an education and football is secondary to getting accepted. If they play pro at all, it will be in Canada and for very small money.
Please note, no name calling and no insulting used.
As a UW grad myself I am disappointed by the conduct of these idiots, and think the university acted appropriately in cancelling the entire season.
1. I never called you a name or insulted you. By saying that you don't have a clue, wasn't meant as an insult, and your reply just verifies my statement.
2. The decision was made by the administration of UW, which has automy on what athletic programs they will support. It doesn't matter if the team was told those who are clean will be playing. Obviously, the administration changed their decision and is making an example not just for UW but for the entire university community.
Athletic Director Bob Copeland stated, "It is a team sport and they are being punished as a team."
You can't have your cake and eat it too. All for one and one for all, the team is only as strong as its weakest link. There is no "I" in team.
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20100615/waterloo-university-football-100615/
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publishe...picId=100018994&docId=l:1186165103&isRss=true Dick Pound also stated that if anyone believes that steriods aren't being used in all CIS athletics, they're sadly mistaken.
You don't know me or anything about me, and I'll do you one better on the opinion poll. I don't have an opinion on you because you're irrelevant.
"Those young men who tested positive should be expelled for using drugs".
You can't be Serious. Can you imagine if any student who used drugs got expelled?
You can't be Serious. Can you imagine if any student who used drugs got expelled?
I am completely serious. The Waterloo 9 are a disgrace to the university, the sport, the team and an embarrassment to themselves. In fact, I can imagine a university or college expelling any student for alcohol or drug abuse. It's up to the administration to decide; it just wouldn't surprise if it did happen.
But there's two I's in idiot which is what Bob Copeland is.
Bob wants me too believe that if I'm on the Warrior football team that I'm responsible for the decisions of my teamates.
Yeah okay like that's even a remote possibility.
Since this is a team thing then by his own logic he should suspend himself or how about this he should fall on his own sword and resign.
Because after all he is charge of all the athletics and thus the leader of his team, right? and as leader he is ultimately responsible.
The right move would have been to ban the 9 who failed the test for life and carry on with business as usual.
Oracle, Bob Copeland did not make the decision; however, he is the athletic director and has to face the media and public. Bob Copeland is no more than a middle manager being tugged by both arms. The university made the decision and they wouldn't be consulting Mr. Copeland.
Where is Head Coach Denis McPhee? On administrative leave and not saying a word that may be his smartest move ever. The only coach that has spoke out also resigned and he's a parent of a player. I wonder does anyone have information on Coach McPhee?
We can all agree to disagree. The university has made its decision.
Where is Head Coach Denis McPhee? On administrative leave and not saying a word that may be his smartest move ever. The only coach that has spoke out also resigned and he's a parent of a player. I wonder does anyone have information on Coach McPhee?
We can all agree to disagree. The university has made its decision.
HOF he's agreeing with the decision is he not?
He came out with his illogical ''team'' comments.
What they are doing is killing their program. Plain and simple.
There is going to be a press conference on thursday by the players and the one coach who resigned
( at least he had the balls to do what he believed in)
http://tsn.ca/cis/story/?id=324830
On the Fan590 today it was said that there could be legal implications involved in the end.
