Yep everybody knows. I'm not saying that it's a pretty future . I was talking about resolve on the part of NATO members. If you look at Ukraine right now in terms of infrastructure it's already in shambles...just will power keeps them going and that seems to be the small unexpected detail Putin , his cronies and even the west were not counting on at the start of the invasion.
They will get to a negotiation in the future but it will be after an awful body count on each side . Russia has never been afraid to throw and waste people during a conflict ( throwing bodies at a problem) but so are the Ukrainians if you look at their history that overlap Russian history.
