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[C Dick]

You have to watch Wanderlai's fights in Pride FC.....
You would definitely have a different view of Silva after watching some of his fights in Japan...

Yes, you are right, I know he is/was a better fighter than I have seen, but until I see it myself, I can not picture it.

In terms of GSP versus Silva, I think that at a neutral weight, GSP would have a chance. Silva is a lot stonger standing / in the clinch. But GSP takes everyone down instantly, and is on top. I think that it would quickly go to the ground, with GSP on top, and that would not be a good spot for Silva. I would certainly like to see the fight.

And if UFC wanted it to happen, it would happen.

 

[iluvquarks]

Yes, you are right, I know he is/was a better fighter than I have seen, but until I see it myself, I can not picture it.

In terms of GSP versus Silva, I think that at a neutral weight, GSP would have a chance. Silva is a lot stonger standing / in the clinch. But GSP takes everyone down instantly, and is on top. I think that it would quickly go to the ground, with GSP on top, and that would not be a good spot for Silva. I would certainly like to see the fight.

And if UFC wanted it to happen, it would happen.

My two cents. Wanderlai's best years were when he was fighting under 200lbs. He was fast, strong, heavy handed and with a quick recovery. The Wandy then is definitely not the Wandy now. After 40 fights, weight fluctuations and numerous brawls (he was never great defensively), it's starting to take it's toll. The cockiness and bloodlust is gone. The Wand of 4 years ago would take Jardine brutally. Now though, I'm not sure. Go with the underdog if you're betting.

GSP vs Silva even at a catch weight, Spider takes it. Normally I would never bet on the guy who's moving down a division, but in this case I'd make the exception. Silva's wrestling is strong enough to prevent too many take downs and when down, his long limbs and BJJ would prevent GSP from inflicting any damage. This'll be decided on the feet. Silva has the better chin, is stronger, longer, faster, more technical and has more of an arsenal. He knocks him out badly.

Back to the initial topic. BJ Penn by domination. While he's had a history of "should haves" (shoulda won Pulver 1, shoulda won Uno 2, shoulda won Hughes 2, etc.), I think the days he would show up out of shape or non-chalant is behind him. Look for him to cement his place in MMA history by taking out Sherk and going after GSP.

Machida over Ortiz. Tito hasn't looked good in a very long time. Bet on Machida.

 

[jcm]

My thoughts on the main cards:
1) Jardine vs. Silva: This is a hard one. Both are good strikers, with Jardine being the more patient one and better game plan, and Silva being the wild swinging one and lots of aggression. I think the rules of the UFC (no foot stomps and soccer kicks) took a lot out of Silva, like it did to Shogun. From the last fight with Liddell, I think Silva still got it. But then Jardine would want to win this to prove that he should be the next one in line for the title, not Forrest. I think it would be a good match, and it will be a TKO/KO. I hope Silva can end his 4 match losing streak and get a TKO in the second round.

2) Machida vs. Ortiz: Lyoto Machida is my favourite light heavyweight. I know he may be boring to watch, but he is so technically skilled and methodical. He's a true athlete of the MMA sport. However, I think he may have trouble with a wrestler and a ground and pound guy like Ortiz. Ortiz hasn't done much in the last few years, but he could still take people down. As far as I remember, Machida is a black belt in BJJ and Shotokan Karate, but does not have great wrestling skills (but he's won Sumo tournaments before, so I don't know if that will translate). If Ortiz comes out with lots of fire, especially towards Dana White and the UFC, he will be active in the GnP, and he could get a decision. I've seen Machida against stronger opponents like Sam Greco, and he did not look too impressive. Still I believe Machida will most likely be prepared for Ortiz, and get a TKO in the second round or a unanimous decision.

3) Penn vs. Sherk: BJ Penn is probably the most skilled and well-rounded fighter not named Fedor Emelianenko. I haven't see many of Sherk's fight, but I don't think he would fare well against a great BJJ specialist like Penn. With Penn's much improved conditioning, as seen in his fights against Pulver and Stevenson, he would not have much to worry past the third round (if it goes that far). Sherk may take him down occasionally, but Penn would neutralize his GnP and takedowns with his BJJ skills and much improved boxing. I see Penn keeping the title with a second round TKO or submission by rear naked choke or triangle choke (maybe even the mythical gogoplata?)

To chime in on the GSP vs. Anderson Silva fight. As much as I would like to take GSP for the win, Anderson Silva would most likely demolish him in the standup. The Spider has a much better reach advantage and could keep GSP away with strikes. Even on his back, Silva is a BJJ blackbelt and has some sick upkicks (e.g. the fight and "loss" against Okami). The only way GSP could win is to grind out a 3 round decision win with takedown attempts. Now, I would like to see Silva fight Roy Jones Jr., even though I think Roy Jones Jr. would win under boxing rules.

What do you guys think of my predictions?

 

[Kyra.Graves]

I'm somewhat curious about the whole discussion of GSP vs. Silva. Now I too think that Silva is probably favored but most of my reasoning for that is size, if Anderson cut he'd be a little gassed should it go the distance but he'd have not only reach advantage but weight advantage (by fight time) as well. If Georges went up a weight class he'd be carrying enough extra weight that it's likely he'd feel heavy and slow, not many fighters do well in the old "open weight" fights that UFC and Pride used to do. I think the size would make a difference in two fighters that are pretty equally skilled.
So that's my curiousity, why does everyone think that GSP is a wrestler? So far everyone has spoken about GSP taking Silva down and maybe grinding out a win. However statistically GSP's wins are mainly TKO. He is a BJJ practitioner and wrestler but he started in Karate and many of his fights have been stand up fights. I'd be very hesitant to say that he's a ground fighter as he's proven to have an excellent stand up game.
Silva, well he's an excellent kick boxer and a BJJ black belt; his game is well rounded as well. I have no doubt the two of them would be an excellent fight but where did the idea that GSP is a wrestler come from? It's a fairly new form for him.

 

[Kyra.Graves]

Yes, you are right, I know he is/was a better fighter than I have seen, but until I see it myself, I can not picture it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8_YukHTXwg - Silva vs. Sakuraba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDkWlALcEPA - Vale Tudo Championships (aka. some crazy bareknuckle sh*t)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4BE-G_7t-c - Silva vs. Fujita
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-YoSJ9MLQQ - Silva vs. Kondo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2imEkqtWAXU - Silva vs. Medina (Vale Tudo)

and of course the compilation/highlight reel, notice the calibre of fighters he's knocked out, they aren't nobody's but rather some serious contenders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U6HWkPDp4Q

Anyway that's just a few of his fights, but one of the reasons I rank him up near the top. I realize he's not fighting as well as he used to but I don't count him out as he's always been impressive to me!

 

[Smash]

Penn has stated that he would like to have a re-match against the Welterweight Champion...

If Penn stays in shape and doesnt lose focus he'll beat GSP in the next fight. The last time an out of shape Penn re-arranged GSP's face pretty good while Penn looked the same as when he first walked in the ring. Penn is the only opponent around his weigh class that GSP can't dominate on the mat or stand up. Thats some stat considering GSP imo is the best wrestler/striker in that weigh class.

Remember Penn gained 50+lbs to fight Machida in Japan and lost on a split decision. Penn usually fights at 155lbs but to fight Lyoto he went up to 205lbs. That fight he clearly looked much smaller then Lyoto but still gave Machida a hard fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsax3njvkHU



Preparing for backlash.....now

 

[Manji]

I'm somewhat curious about the whole discussion of GSP vs. Silva. Now I too think that Silva is probably favored but most of my reasoning for that is size, if Anderson cut he'd be a little gassed should it go the distance but he'd have not only reach advantage but weight advantage (by fight time) as well. If Georges went up a weight class he'd be carrying enough extra weight that it's likely he'd feel heavy and slow, not many fighters do well in the old "open weight" fights that UFC and Pride used to do. I think the size would make a difference in two fighters that are pretty equally skilled.
So that's my curiousity, why does everyone think that GSP is a wrestler? So far everyone has spoken about GSP taking Silva down and maybe grinding out a win. However statistically GSP's wins are mainly TKO. He is a BJJ practitioner and wrestler but he started in Karate and many of his fights have been stand up fights. I'd be very hesitant to say that he's a ground fighter as he's proven to have an excellent stand up game.
Silva, well he's an excellent kick boxer and a BJJ black belt; his game is well rounded as well. I have no doubt the two of them would be an excellent fight but where did the idea that GSP is a wrestler come from? It's a fairly new form for him.

Its simply because GSP has predominately wrestled in his last few fights....If you had only watched GSP's last three fights you would think he came from a wrestling background....
He barely used any stand up against Hughes, Serra and Koscheck....

His stand up is nowhere near as good as Anderson's striking....Anderson's Muay Thai is levels above GSP's Karate turned Kickboxing background (he trains Muay Thai but its not really evident in his fights)....The Spider can box, kick, knee, elbow and clinch.....He's patient and waits for that perfect moment to throw a punch or kick and he throws it with a perfect combination of power and accuracy....
Anderson's knees and clinch alone would devestate GSP standing up.....
He also has great head movement and knows how to bob and weave his way out of his opponents strikes and then countering with a barrage of his own (remember his little dance against Franklin the second time)....

As for both having BJJ Black Belts.....There's Black Belts and then there's "Black Belts"... All Black Belts are definitely not equal....A Black Belt from BlackHouse (Big's Nog's gym - formerly from Brazilian Top Team) means a lot more than that of a Black Belt from Canadian Top Team....

Add to the fact that Anderson is extremely strong, has great takedown defense (a decent MMA wrestler) and balance, has a longer reach and a solid chin and you have to figure that the cards are stacked against GSP.....

Even if size were not an issue, I'd still put my money on Anderson....

 

[Smash]

where did the idea that GSP is a wrestler come from? It's a fairly new form for him.

GSP doesnt have the polished wrestling background that sayy Matt Hughs/ Josh Koscheck or Sean Sherk has but when he BEAT those guys he looked wayy better at wrestling then they did. Yes he has one of the best takedown defenses in the game but even rolling around on the ground ontop or bottom against quality wreslers like Hughs and Koscheck GSP controlls them 100%.
I've studied every GSP fight and I've never seen him get slammed or single/double legged by anyone. Its quite a stat to not have a wrestling background and never get taken down in the ufc. Amazing natural athletic's

GSP did study wrestling but not at the level "wrestlers" in the UFC have.

 

[Manji]

GSP doesnt have the polished wrestling background that sayy Matt Hughs/ Josh Koscheck or Sean Sherk has but when he BEAT those guys he looked wayy better at wrestling then they did. Yes he has one of the best takedown defenses in the game but even rolling around on the ground ontop or bottom against quality wreslers like Hughs and Koscheck GSP controlls them 100%.
I've studied every GSP fight and I've never seen him get slammed or single/double legged by anyone. Its quite a stat to not have a wrestling background and never get taken down in the ufc. Amazing natural athletic's

GSP did study wrestling but not at the level "wrestlers" in the UFC have.

GSP has trained with the Canadian National Wrestling Team....
To prepare for his fight with Hughes he trained with Rashad Evans and a few other UFC fighters with wrestling backgrounds...

It just goes to show you that even though you might be an elite level Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Specialist or Wrestler or Muay Thai Boxer, etc... That doesn't necessarily mean you will do well in Mixed Martial Arts....

GSP may not be the best Pure Wrestler but he is one of the best MMA wrestlers in the UFC....

 

[Smash]

Its simply because GSP has predominately wrestled in his last few fights. He barely used any stand up against Hughes, Serra and Koscheck....

His stand up is nowhere near as good as Anderson's striking

I agree with your fist comment Manji. It seems like GSP is playin it safe and knows he can controll every opponent on the ground therefore theres no need to risk kicking/punching and getting caught with a counter punch. We all know what can happen if he tries to exchange punch's with a puncher ala Serra vs GSP #1.

The second time he fought Serra he barely threw any punch's in hopes not too get caught by Matt's heavy hands again. I wonder if GSP has changed for the worse and is now happy with grinding out a win??

I still doubt he has much of a chin and the only way to beat him is to go after it.

As for your second comment Manji I disagree that GSP's stand up is nowhere near as good as Anderson's strikes. Karate kicks are just as dangerous as Muay Thai's if excuted properly just ask Machida. When I used to kickbox I was always taught to use the kicks in order to set-up the hands. The hands are what gets the KO, the kicks stun's the opponet and the hands finish them off. Like Anderson, GSP can kick with either leg with power (I mean a real kick with technique not the kind of sloppy no power kicks that allot of UFC fighters have..haha)

Anderson does have sweet knees but you can learn how to defend against that.

Now does this mean that GSP would beat Anderson??
It could go like this...

If GSP takes Silva to the ground he could most likely controll him and maybe win on the cards.
GSP dominates so called wrestlers like Hughs, Sherk, Koscheck on the ground. Koscheck's claim to fame was his wrestling and GSP made him look like he weighed 50lbs. So if GSP was to gain more weight/muscle he will be stronger and have enough power to keep Silva on the ground and MAYBE g&p/submit him. Wasnt Serra a bjj black belt under the Gracie's and didnt GSP controll him 100% on the mat?

It could also go like this..... Spider inserts his knee through GSP's head..

 

[Smash]

On a different note check this out....

http://mmajunkie.com/news/4377/guest-ref-shonie-carter-discusses-eight-second-double-knockout.mma

 

[l69norm]

...Anyway that's just a few of his fights, but one of the reasons I rank him up near the top. I realize he's not fighting as well as he used to but I don't count him out as he's always been impressive to me!

Add the two famous ones of Silva vs. Jackson when Rampage was at his peak:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLTqtrcLJv8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pWMQoJ9mR0

 

[Kyra.Graves]

As for both having BJJ Black Belts.....There's Black Belts and then there's "Black Belts"... All Black Belts are definitely not equal....A Black Belt from BlackHouse (Big's Nog's gym - formerly from Brazilian Top Team) means a lot more than that of a Black Belt from Canadian Top Team....

Actually I never said they both have Black Belts in BJJ as to my knowledge George still has his Brown belt, however he trains with Renzo Gracie and I'd hardly discount that.

Anyway with all of Black House's issues I'm not sure it's one that be remembered in the long run.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=12847
To clarify for those that don't know Black House it should read "Big Nog's gym - formerly of Brazilian Top Team" as BTT is still going strong and Black House was actually formed by a few Chute Box and BTT fighters as a separate entity.

Back to the GSP vs. Silva discussion I too think Anderson would win, however I had to disagree with the idea that GSP is just a wrestler - I think he's actually a little more well rounded than Anderson. GSP is a strong striker, grappler and an incredibly strong wrestler, Anderson to my knowledge is lacking the wrestling ability. Again I still think Anderson would win.

 

[jcm]

I'm somewhat curious about the whole discussion of GSP vs. Silva. Now I too think that Silva is probably favored but most of my reasoning for that is size, if Anderson cut he'd be a little gassed should it go the distance but he'd have not only reach advantage but weight advantage (by fight time) as well. If Georges went up a weight class he'd be carrying enough extra weight that it's likely he'd feel heavy and slow, not many fighters do well in the old "open weight" fights that UFC and Pride used to do. I think the size would make a difference in two fighters that are pretty equally skilled.
So that's my curiousity, why does everyone think that GSP is a wrestler? So far everyone has spoken about GSP taking Silva down and maybe grinding out a win. However statistically GSP's wins are mainly TKO. He is a BJJ practitioner and wrestler but he started in Karate and many of his fights have been stand up fights. I'd be very hesitant to say that he's a ground fighter as he's proven to have an excellent stand up game.
Silva, well he's an excellent kick boxer and a BJJ black belt; his game is well rounded as well. I have no doubt the two of them would be an excellent fight but where did the idea that GSP is a wrestler come from? It's a fairly new form for him.

GSP did not initially start off wrestling, but due to his ridiculous athleticism and training, he's very good at controlling opponents on the ground as well as avoiding takedowns, as seen in Huges vs. GSP 2 and 3.

I think the reason we think GSP is a wrestler now is how he did against Koscheck and Matt Serra (2). He is able to control the opponent and work some hitting in. After that loss to Serra, he has really re-evaluated his game (he thought too highly of his standup after Hughes 2 and look what happend) and decided to fight more well rounded, as seen in his last 3 fights. I think that now with the last 3 fights and the confidence that he has regained he will give Silva a tough fight.

Silva is very well rounded too. His weakness is dynamic wrestling as we have seen Dan Henderson do well against him in the first round. If GSP could exploit that, he may be able to control Silva and attack his long limbs. Silva has been submitted before so it can be done, but he has never been TKO'ed. I know this sounds crazy, but if GSP trains hard with Renzo Gracie, there is even a possibility of an armbar or kneebar or any form of limb submission vs. Silva and his extra long limbs (they call him the Spider for a reason).

I don't think size would be a big difference. GSP is a big welterweight and usually walks around at 190. He will still maintain his quickness and maybe be even stronger at 185. However, if this fight were to take place soon, I still see Silva being the winner. His standup is just too good, and he has a big reach advantage to keep GSP at bay with his takedowns.

 

[Manji]

Actually I never said they both have Black Belts in BJJ as to my knowledge George still has his Brown belt, however he trains with Renzo Gracie and I'd hardly discount that.

Anyway with all of Black House's issues I'm not sure it's one that be remembered in the long run.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=12847
To clarify for those that don't know Black House it should read "Big Nog's gym - formerly of Brazilian Top Team" as BTT is still going strong and Black House was actually formed by a few Chute Box and BTT fighters as a separate entity.

Back to the GSP vs. Silva discussion I too think Anderson would win, however I had to disagree with the idea that GSP is just a wrestler - I think he's actually a little more well rounded than Anderson. GSP is a strong striker, grappler and an incredibly strong wrestler, Anderson to my knowledge is lacking the wrestling ability. Again I still think Anderson would win.

Sorry, I did make it sound you said he was a Black Belt...Knew he was a Brown a while back and thought he had gotten his Black since then....Once you get your brown belt in BJJ; in most cases Black Belt is not too far off.....

Figured BlackHouse was gonna go down once Big Nog left and decided to live in the United States....
BlackHouse was pretty much formed because of a dispute about money within the Brazilian Top Team ranks (have a buddy in BTT who filled me in when BTT split)....Brazilian Top Team will still be a force but they've lost a majority of their top fighters and losing that much talent hurts any gym....

An article on BTT and Chuteboxe's loss of talent and its effect on the gyms:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3253436&type=story

 

[Manji]

GSP did not initially start off wrestling, but due to his ridiculous athleticism and training, he's very good at controlling opponents on the ground as well as avoiding takedowns, as seen in Huges vs. GSP 2 and 3.

I think the reason we think GSP is a wrestler now is how he did against Koscheck and Matt Serra (2). He is able to control the opponent and work some hitting in. After that loss to Serra, he has really re-evaluated his game (he thought too highly of his standup after Hughes 2 and look what happend) and decided to fight more well rounded, as seen in his last 3 fights. I think that now with the last 3 fights and the confidence that he has regained he will give Silva a tough fight.

Silva is very well rounded too. His weakness is dynamic wrestling as we have seen Dan Henderson do well against him in the first round. If GSP could exploit that, he may be able to control Silva and attack his long limbs. Silva has been submitted before so it can be done, but he has never been TKO'ed. I know this sounds crazy, but if GSP trains hard with Renzo Gracie, there is even a possibility of an armbar or kneebar or any form of limb submission vs. Silva and his extra long limbs (they call him the Spider for a reason).

I don't think size would be a big difference. GSP is a big welterweight and usually walks around at 190. He will still maintain his quickness and maybe be even stronger at 185. However, if this fight were to take place soon, I still see Silva being the winner. His standup is just too good, and he has a big reach advantage to keep GSP at bay with his takedowns.

Anderson cuts weight as well and it is rumoured that he walks around at least 205...So that would pretty much negate GSP's 185....

Anderson may not be the best MMA wrestler but he is certainly no lightweight in that aspect either...He's been working on his Wrestling with Collegiate Wrestlers in California...Being outwrestled by (former Olympian and former Pride Champion of two weight classes) Dan Henderson is nothing to be ashamed off...Henderson outwrestled Rampage at LightHeavyweight for the first half of their fight...

A fighter will have to be pretty slick to submit Anderson....
Silva has only been submitted twice in his career....Once back in 2003 and the other time in 2004 by Ryo Chonan who submitted him with a Flying Heel Hook - one of the slickest submissions in MMA history (supposedly Silva had a Knee injury as well and was forced to tap)....And his BJJ skills have only improved since then...
He's fought quite a few Submission Specialists (Lutter, Newton, Jeremy Horn, Marquadt) and has beaten them all....I doubt that GSP has enough BJJ skill and slickness to pull of submission on The Spider....

Long limbs may make it easier to submit but it makes it easier to pull guard and pull of certain submissions (like the triangle)....Also Silva long limbs makes it easier for him to lock on a body triangle even if he's on the bottom (and that's a bitch to have on you especially if you're tired and trying to breathe)...

And up kicks...Silva can throw some nasty upkicks with those long legs of his...

In regards to preparation as well....I think Silva would be harder for GSP to prepare for because of his unique skills and physique....Silva on the other hand would have an easier time to prepare for St Pierre since there are more fighters like GSP (probably not as good of course) but similar in style and physique.....

 

[iluvquarks]

As for your second comment Manji I disagree that GSP's stand up is nowhere near as good as Anderson's strikes. Karate kicks are just as dangerous as Muay Thai's if excuted properly just ask Machida. When I used to kickbox I was always taught to use the kicks in order to set-up the hands. The hands are what gets the KO, the kicks stun's the opponet and the hands finish them off. Like Anderson, GSP can kick with either leg with power (I mean a real kick with technique not the kind of sloppy no power kicks that allot of UFC fighters have..haha)

Sorry but I agree with Manji on the huge difference in the striking department. Reach, speed, head movement, footwork, chin, power, combinations, legs, closing distance - I don't see anywhere where GSP has an advantage. I'd bet my house on Silva if it's standup.

A tougher match for Silva is Penn. Good enough boxing to not be outclassed, one helluva chin and great JJ. Silva's still the favourite but I would not be surprised at an upset. Funny enough though, I think GSP takes Penn to a decision if they meet again. Just a bad matchup for him.

Regarding Silva and Roy Jones. Why? Even now, an over the hill RJJ embarasses Silva in a straight boxing match.

 

[The Oracle]

Sorry but I agree with Manji on the huge difference in the striking department. Reach, speed, head movement, footwork, chin, power, combinations, legs, closing distance - I don't see anywhere where GSP has an advantage. I'd bet my house on Silva if it's standup.

A tougher match for Silva is Penn. Good enough boxing to not be outclassed, one helluva chin and great JJ. Silva's still the favourite but I would not be surprised at an upset. Funny enough though, I think GSP takes Penn to a decision if they meet again. Just a bad matchup for him.

Regarding Silva and Roy Jones. Why? Even now, an over the hill RJJ embarasses Silva in a straight boxing match.

GSP has the best shoot in the business. and as long as he has that he can take anyone down. When he gets Silva down he can control him with his ground and pound. I know you are going to say Silva is a bjj bb but that didn't help Serra any did it? I just can't see Silva getting up if GSP gets him down and lets face it Lutter took Silva down so it can be done. Of course GSP might eat a knee on the way in and it will be a short night. I also agree with everybody else that GSP cannot stand with Silva and for that matter I'm not sure anyone in the 205 division could stand with Silva.

 

[Manji]

GSP has the best shoot in the business. and as long as he has that he can take anyone down. When he gets Silva down he can control him with his ground and pound. I know you are going to say Silva is a bjj bb but that didn't help Serra any did it? I just can't see Silva getting up if GSP gets him down and lets face it Lutter took Silva down so it can be done. Of course GSP might eat a knee on the way in and it will be a short night. I also agree with everybody else that GSP cannot stand with Silva and for that matter I'm not sure anyone in the 205 division could stand with Silva.

Really can't make a comparison between Serra and Anderson...

Serra is a small 170...From what I heard, if the UFC had a 160 division; Serra would have done real well....He's just kind of stuck between weight divisions, too heavy for 155 but too light for 170...Also being a short guy with short limbs didn't help as well...Makes it difficult to submit Serra but also makes it difficult for him to pull submissions (not to mention the huge disadvantage in striking)...
Serra being taller and heavier probably wouldn't have given Serra the win but it would have made the fight more competive...

Chances are Silva wouldn't use his BJJ for submissions at least in the beginning of the fight...He would use it to open up space between him and GSP (if GSP was on top) so he can pop back up to his feet and start striking....

 

[alex111]

I really am hoping for Tito in this fight it seems like he got a raw deal from Dana White and the UFC.
And BJ for the win also.
Don't have any favorites for the other fights other than entertainment.