hmm so UK, French and USA are pissed off because they claim Syria used chemical weapons on civilians, so to deter usage they fire 110 missiles against Syrian chemical weapons depots in Damascus, their largest city. Soooo should there not be a large cloud of toxins in the air if this was true or is this some sort of magic missile? What about the risks to civilians in the area? Humanitarian violations punished by firing cruise missiles into civilian centers? How does anyone say this shit with a straight face.
U.S. Air Strikes On Syria Underway Now
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Strange that Notty has no issue with Assad and Putin bombing the shit out of civilian targets but gets upset that Syrian military sites get hit.
p.s. To answer your claim, the site was for the production of chemicals, not a storage depot.
p.s. To answer your claim, the site was for the production of chemicals, not a storage depot.
Likely true - not that Assad doesn't deserve getting hit....The Syrian attack by the US is just a distraction for the American public...
You do realize that the usa has been been informing Russia as a means of preventing Russians casualties escalating into war with them right?Good thing Trump gave them advance notice of this billion dollar fireworks display.
They would have known where and when.
Unless of course you are suggesting you want to start a war with Russia?
And May and Macron then are now in collusion with Trump?Trump doesn't give a shit about from Syrians being gassed, he would not even let them enter American on humanitarian grounds as refugees. What is perturbing Trump now is that the FBI has seized documents from Trump's personal lawyer. The Syrian attack by the US is just a distraction for the American public with Trump still being a shill for Putin. Trump will not be in office long enough to nix the Iranian deal anyway.
If DT had ultimately no set day he had to order the strikes, why Friday?Likely true - not that Assad doesn't deserve getting hit.
Couldn’t he wait for a day (or night) the distraction would actually work to distract us from something? The only thing that fired him up since Friday morning was the Comey book.
What production site has no inventory on hand? I accept that bombing civilian areas is a fact of war when you what to conquer territory, but the US is not attempting to conquer Damascus or occupy it. There is no acceptable reason to be attacking Damascus especially under the aegis of humanitarian action.Strange that Notty has no issue with Assad and Putin bombing the shit out of civilian targets but gets upset that Syrian military sites get hit.
p.s. To answer your claim, the site was for the production of chemicals, not a storage depot.
From Al-Jazeera
The US has a number of different smart weapons designed to destroy chemical weapon facilities while minimizing civilian exposure. But by putting these storage facilities, which I understand are located throughout Damascus and Syria as a whole, in civilian populated areas, would appear to add little to the Assad regime’s credibility as ‘protectors’ of its people.
What’s that about human shields?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/syria-air-strikes-latest-updates-180414021423479.htmlFive things to know about the US-led strikes in Syria
According to US President Donald Trump, "the purpose of our actions tonight is to establish a strong deterrent against the production, spread and use of chemical weapons".
The US and its allies launched more than 100 strikes on Syria in a "one-time shot", officials at the Pentagon said. According to a Syrian government official, around 30 missiles were fired in the attack, and a third of them were shot down.
The US used Tomahawk cruise missiles in its strikes in Syria, which were fired at multiple targets in the country, a US official said.
Joseph Dunford, Washington's top general, said the "precision strikes" hit three targets: A scientific research centre near Damascus that is allegedly connected to the production of the chemical weapons; a chemical weapons storage facility near Homs; a command post near the capital.
Russia's ambassador to the US warned that there would be consequences for the strikes, adding that it was not acceptable to insult Russia's president.
The US has a number of different smart weapons designed to destroy chemical weapon facilities while minimizing civilian exposure. But by putting these storage facilities, which I understand are located throughout Damascus and Syria as a whole, in civilian populated areas, would appear to add little to the Assad regime’s credibility as ‘protectors’ of its people.
What’s that about human shields?
Assuming the WMD angle is a BS one, this looks to me like a coordinated military exercise. The US lobs softballs at russia, and russia tries to hit them out of the park. Both parties know the actual score of the game, but to the outside world the score is kept secret. Both parties will get valuable test data, and both parties will be able to beat the drum for more military spending on misssle and missle defense systems. Both will benefit from rising oil prices as a result.
Assuming the WMD angle is a legit one, the best narrative I heard thus far is that Isreal was going to bomb those sites themselves because chemical weapons + Iran would spell trouble for Israel. The alternative was to have the US do it on Israel's behalf via cruise missles in some coordinated fashion with Russia/Syria such that casualties are minimized and the targets are destroyed. Israel doing it themselves brings greater risk of escalating tensions.
Assuming the WMD angle is a legit one, the best narrative I heard thus far is that Isreal was going to bomb those sites themselves because chemical weapons + Iran would spell trouble for Israel. The alternative was to have the US do it on Israel's behalf via cruise missles in some coordinated fashion with Russia/Syria such that casualties are minimized and the targets are destroyed. Israel doing it themselves brings greater risk of escalating tensions.
Attacking a Russian ally and protectorate would suffice to initiate a war with Russia, but this little show bombing ( which would release chemical toxins to the surrounding community, would it not?) is just a PR move by Trump to distract from his problem of being a lying douchebag scam artist. Unless Putin seriously responds to this, we can simple assume that he is doing Trump yet another favour . Notice how they never really trash each other verbally? Comey is a "slimeball", but Mr. Putin is always treated very gently. Trump even called him to congratulate him on his tainted electoral farce recently.You do realize that the usa has been been informing Russia as a means of preventing Russians casualties escalating into war with them right?
They would have known where and when.
Unless of course you are suggesting you want to start a war with Russia?
So May and Macron bombed as well just to assist Trump with his Domestic issues.Attacking a Russian ally and protectorate would suffice to initiate a war with Russia, but this little show bombing ( which would release chemical toxins to the surrounding community, would it not?) is just a PR move by Trump to distract from his problem of being a lying douchebag scam artist. Unless Putin seriously responds to this, we can simple assume that he is doing Trump yet another favour . Notice how they never really trash each other verbally? Comey is a "slimeball", but Mr. Putin is always treated very gently. Trump even called him to congratulate him on his tainted electoral farce recently.
And Trudeau is on side as well?
It’s threads like this that remind me how many idiots reside in the TERB village.
The Organisation for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons said on 19 April that bio-medical samples collected from three victims during their post-mortems had been analysed by two OPCW-designated laboratories.
The results of the analysis indicated that the victims were exposed to Sarin or a Sarin-like substance. Samples taken from seven survivors showed similar results.
"While further details of the laboratory analyses will follow, the analytical results already obtained are incontrovertible," said OPCW head Ahmet Uzumcu.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39500947
https://breakingdefense.com/2018/04/pentagon-syria-struck-from-all-sides-no-missiles-intercepted/
The Organisation for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons said on 19 April that bio-medical samples collected from three victims during their post-mortems had been analysed by two OPCW-designated laboratories.
The results of the analysis indicated that the victims were exposed to Sarin or a Sarin-like substance. Samples taken from seven survivors showed similar results.
"While further details of the laboratory analyses will follow, the analytical results already obtained are incontrovertible," said OPCW head Ahmet Uzumcu.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39500947
https://breakingdefense.com/2018/04/pentagon-syria-struck-from-all-sides-no-missiles-intercepted/
I think it’s just the usual pro-Russia tinfoil hat brigade being tin-foily, but I can’t imagine we’re still debating the sarin attack from last year. The results are in...It’s threads like this that remind me how many idiots reside in the TERB village.
The Organisation for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons said on 19 April that bio-medical samples collected from three victims during their post-mortems had been analysed by two OPCW-designated laboratories.
The results of the analysis indicated that the victims were exposed to Sarin or a Sarin-like substance. Samples taken from seven survivors showed similar results.
"While further details of the laboratory analyses will follow, the analytical results already obtained are incontrovertible," said OPCW head Ahmet Uzumcu.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39500947
https://breakingdefense.com/2018/04/pentagon-syria-struck-from-all-sides-no-missiles-intercepted/
Assad and his friends here would have you believe that because Russian-state media said there would be a false-flag chemical weapons attack right before what appears to have been an actual chlorine gas attack, we have been told to discredit this clear ‘false-flag’ operation report. These reports would appear to have triggered the response by Trump and his allies.
Im not willing to walk too far down the conspiracy theory trail, but why Friday? The OPCW inspectors were set to arrive in Syria the next morning, and they targeted the Barzah facility that the OPCW declared as ‘empty’ within the last month. In any event, it appears that they aren’t allowed to access the site of the alleged Syria chemical weapons attack. Was the timing all about Comey?
And why is this ‘alleged’ chemical weapons attack the straw that broke the camel’s back. There have been almost a dozen confirmed chemical weapons attacks since last last April. Was this the excuse the US, Uk and France were looking for when the Skripal poisoning went down?
I’m interested to hear who will come out on top of the ‘how many missiles were shot down’ smack-down. Trump has now said none were shot down, Russia seems set beteen 70% and almost 100% were shot down.
What did they contribute... a pea shooter each? The question is - how much damage did the US inflict and what effect it will have? My guess is very little, but of course most nations would support the elimination of chemical attacks in principleSo May and Macron bombed as well just to assist Trump with his Domestic issues.
And Trudeau is on side as well?
Actually from the reports about half the missiles from both sea and air platforms. The have the same stuff the USA does via NATO.What did they contribute... a pea shooter each? The question is - how much damage did the US inflict and what effect it will have? My guess is very little, but of course most nations would support the elimination of chemical attacks in principle
Taking out production facilities is a better idea. But they still have to be careful not to kill Russians if possible.
Looks like we know what Russia's response to the Syria attack is.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...oit-routers-in-homes-govs-and-infrastructure/
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/16/politics/russian-hackers-network-devices-alert/index.html
http://time.com/5242689/russia-hackers-internet-routers-espionage/
And co-incidentally Trump just stopped US sanctions on Russia again.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...oit-routers-in-homes-govs-and-infrastructure/
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/16/politics/russian-hackers-network-devices-alert/index.html
http://time.com/5242689/russia-hackers-internet-routers-espionage/
And co-incidentally Trump just stopped US sanctions on Russia again.
Oh noes Frankie, its all just a big conspiracy, isnt it??!!Looks like we know what Russia's response to the Syria attack is.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...oit-routers-in-homes-govs-and-infrastructure/
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/16/politics/russian-hackers-network-devices-alert/index.html
http://time.com/5242689/russia-hackers-internet-routers-espionage/
And co-incidentally Trump just stopped US sanctions on Russia again
It's ALL politics, now. If he acts, insert reason, here. If he doesn't, he's in Putin's pocket. Might as well do his thing like he's been doing and let the nuts scream. In three years the American electorate can decide.Actually from the reports about half the missiles from both sea and air platforms. The have the same stuff the USA does via NATO.
Taking out production facilities is a better idea. But they still have to be careful not to kill Russians if possible.
you finally catching on?Oh noes Frankie, its all just a big conspiracy, isnt it??!!
