Two things that confuse me

[DiscreetRocker]

I mean, a lot of things confuse me. But two things about escort ads that have confused me a lot more lately are
1) not advertising rates and
2) not advertising location with any more specificity than the city.
These aren't complaints. Escorts should be able to advertise in any way they want to, whether or not it's convenient for me and whether or not I understand it. And I'm sure there are good reasons... I'm just confused as to what they could be.

For rates, the last thing I want to do is say "Hey! I'd like to book an hour...." and be met with a rate I simply cannot afford. More power to anyone charging rates I can't afford. Stack that cash! I've even celebrated when a few of my favourites increased their rates so much I couldn't afford them... I mean I was sad I wouldn't see them again but I was sincerely happy for them that they were doing so well in the business. But why hide the rates from the ads? I wouldn't have wasted their time if I knew beforehand I had max $250 to blow and their minimum is $300, or I had $400 and their minimum is $500. Normally I'd read their website before reaching out but many advertisers don't have a website. (And then there's the other confusion of when the website rates and the advertisement's rates don't match! I have a reasonable hunch about this one though...)

For location, I totally get safety is paramount and many escorts have shared the reasons for why it's usually not a good idea to say "I'm at this particular hotel right now" in their ad. Totally understand that. But when the ad says "Mississauga" and I'm coming from either downtown Toronto or Burlington, that could mean the difference between a 10 minute drive and a 45 minute drive, each way. "Near the airport" or "west end of Mississauga" are small enough regions to know the rough travel time without specifying which of the many hotels they're at, so I'd know whether it's possible to schedule the time before reaching out. But "Mississauga" (or most any city) is so vague that it's not possible to say "Hey, I'd like to book an hour at this particular time" since I can't factor in travel time. One of the biggest pet peeves escorts tend to share is about people wasting their time. And if I've got plenty of time to carve out an hour of fun and max an hour of travel time round trip... suddenly the "I'm at the hotel farthest away from you while still being in the advertised city" message means oops, never mind, I wouldn't have wasted your time if I know that beforehand.

Some random Sunday morning thoughts.

 

[Jenesis]

Most ad places give the general city and that is enough in the eyes of many escorts only because they don’t think of what you just said.

Secondly, not stating it gives a interest text. The more interest texts that come in, the better the chance for you to land the booking. That is just business 101. I will tell the hotel and major intersection when asked But I have made you contact me and with my polite and professional demeanour, it may sway you into driving that 30 mins extra for downtown.

Rates - I don’t get. Personally I always assume it was either laziness or the lady reserves the right to change the pricing and therefore doesn’t have set rates.

Or they just forget. Or again, it is to create an interest text.

I could be completely wrong about all of it though.Lol

 

[Ponderling]

Yah, when we hit bar to see a live band on about 9pm in the west end of 416 it is something like a 20 min drive.

But see an 8pm theatre show at Kingston and Markham Rd area it is still 416, but it means we leave at 4:30, and hope we have time to grab some fast food on the way.

 

[DiscreetRocker]

Thanks Jenesis, I appreciate your insights.

I guess potential clients are as varied as the escorts they want to see: Many clients would send the "interest texts" you mention, whereas I just don't contact at all and move on to someone who posts the info I need to know whether I can afford them and whether I can schedule the time. Fascinating how we're all so different even as we're all the same.

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[Jenesis]

Thanks Jenesis, I appreciate your insights.

I guess potential clients are as varied as the escorts they want to see: Many clients would send the "interest texts" you mention, whereas I just don't contact at all and move on to someone who posts the info I need to know whether I can afford them and whether I can schedule the time. Fascinating how we're all so different even as we're all the same.

This industry baffles me all the time.

 

[Valcazar]

I kinda get the location one, I think it is something lots of people don't think about.
The lack of rates just makes me assume she is going for the "if you have to think about it, you can't afford it" filter.

 

[James.xo]

I’m a male SWer i post my city it’s leolist so it has the first 3 of your postal code and on my actual ad It says the intersection over from my in-call that way it’s not the exact address.

I do list my rates for both FBSM & FS both of which I’m being consistently asked about…. Like Sir it’s clearly stated on my ad.

 

[jcpro]

Actually, not advertising rates is to your advantage, if you're a value shopper. When I ask for rates and get an answer I don't like, I respond(politely after introducing myself and nice greeting) with : that's too bad, my maximum is X, but thank you for responding, good luck with your next customer and have a wonderful day. More often than not, I'll get a response with my desired rate. Caution- you can't lowball, must still be reasonable. That's negotiating without negotiating.

 

[Jenesis]

Actually, not advertising rates is to your advantage, if you're a value shopper. When I ask for rates and get an answer I don't like, I respond(politely after introducing myself and nice greeting) with : that's too bad, my maximum is X, but thank you for responding, good luck with your next customer and have a wonderful day. More often than not, I'll get a response with my desired rate. Caution- you can't lowball, must still be reasonably. That's negotiating without negotiating.

Why do you need to do this? Why can’t you just find a girl in within your budget? You are low-balling. That is totally forcing negotiating and in some cases can be exploitative of her bad situation.

This is just gross. Just move on to a girl you can afford.

 

[jcpro]

Why do you need to do this? Why can’t you just find a girl in within your budget? You are low-balling. That is totally forcing negotiating and in some cases can be exploitative of her bad situation.

This is just gross. Just move on to a girl you can afford.

Don't respond, yawn. This is business like any other.

 

[Jenesis]

Don't respond, yawn. This is business like any other.

Don’t post in public if you can’t handle the response. LOL.

It is gross. Move on to someone you can afford.

This may be a business but it is an industry like no other.

 

[boomboom]

2 good points by the OP
couple of other points I will add to confusing or annoying
SPs that advt by just bumping their 1st post many multiple times so there are 25-40 posts. You need to scroll thru like a maze to find what your after. As sometimes there's new info on post 15 or 22 that is relevant. Not always
The good ones stop the bumping after 5-7 times, copy the 1st post to a new thread & update it as needed.
Yes, takes a few extra key strokes & time, but IMHO shows you care about your yourself & your marketing. I've stop seeing or searching out SP that have great reviews because of this.
2nd point
If the SP advt says check out my website or Twitter for for updates or schedule..... include those workable links in your post. If its a fake website, red flag, and a LL advt is not your person website.....
Again, I've stopped searching SP who do these things
To me, these 2 points show that her time is valuable by providing good info upfront so not to be bothered by guys who waste the SPs time.
Again just IMHO
Boom

 

[HotDogger]

I’m assuming this is about LL, Tryst or Listcrawler girls? I always ask about incall rates in a text. If she provides something outlandish I stop texting. She knows why. I don’t need to thank her for her time answering my questions.

i ask about rates not because I am short on money. Rather, this isn’t my time for making charitable donations. As long as her rate is consistent with her looks and services, there is good value. Otherwise I continue shopping. This is the same for shopping for any service. Not asking for the price is just plain idiotic. If you let yourself be taken advantage of, you will be. The world is full of hustlers and scammers. Remember the saying, “a fool and his money are soon parted.”

 

[HotDogger]

I’m assuming this is about LL, Tryst or Listcrawler girls? I always ask about incall rates in a text. If she provides something outlandish I stop texting. She knows why. I don’t need to thank her for her time answering my questions.

i ask about rates not because I am short on money. Rather, this isn’t my time for making charitable donations. As long as her rate is consistent with her looks and services, there is good value. Otherwise I continue shopping. This is the same for shopping for any service. Not asking for the price is just plain idiotic. If you let yourself be taken advantage of, you will be. The world is full of hustlers and scammers. Remember the saying, “a fool and his money are soon parted.”

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[Jenesis]

I’m assuming this is about LL, Tryst or Listcrawler girls? I always ask about incall rates in a text. If she provides something outlandish I stop texting. She knows why. I don’t need to thank her for her time answering my questions.

i ask about rates not because I am short on money. Rather, this isn’t my time for making charitable donations. As long as her rate is consistent with her looks and services, there is good value. Otherwise I continue shopping. This is the same for shopping for any service. Not asking for the price is just plain idiotic. If you let yourself be taken advantage of, you will be. The world is full of hustlers and scammers. Remember the saying, “a fool and his money are soon parted.”

I put rates on my website that I link on LL and I put them right in my ad. I have lots of guys that still ask the rate but mainly to confirm it is the same as what I right in my ad. I put my services too and often that gets confirm as well. That only makes sense to me. The passive aggressive tactics to get a lower rate is something I don’t understand and will just always think is gross.

 

[HotDogger]

Another reason to ask about rates is girls will post different rates on LL versus Tryst, with Tryst being the higher one. If you don’t ask, guaranteed she will charge you the higher rate. I expect that if she is often hearing crickets that day, she will adjust her rate when you ask about it. I know the seasoned providers have an immovable rates but the transient/newer SP’s will adjust to the market. Sometimes higher and sometimes lower.

I never try to negotiate. As we all know with professionals, if she agrees to a lower rate she will discount her service accordingly And that is never a good deal.

 

[boomboom]

@Jenesis
You are a great example to how to advt & market your services properly with great info.... many others do the same, which is greatly appreciated.
Within minutes of my post another advt SP did the bump thing..... 30-40 posts I've now got her on ignore

 

[blueray]

Rates can be a sliding scale based on how busy the lady is, this is another reason why they don't post them....no reason to discount the rate when you're busy, but when things are slow expenses still need to be paid.
Many ladies will ask where you saw her ad, because they charge $400/hr on Tryst, $300/hr on LL and $250 from the agency they also work at. Each ad is geared to a different clientele....the lady and service remains the same.
Sydney Bennet from Sassy's is an example of this.

Actually, not advertising rates is to your advantage, if you're a value shopper. When I ask for rates and get an answer I don't like, I respond(politely after introducing myself and nice greeting) with : that's too bad, my maximum is X, but thank you for responding, good luck with your next customer and have a wonderful day. More often than not, I'll get a response with my desired rate. Caution- you can't lowball, must still be reasonable. That's negotiating without negotiating.

I don't see anything wrong with this at all. Not sure why the Jen does.
Sometimes I will text for rates and the reply is $400/hr. I politely decline....only to get a text 10 minutes later, okay, you sound like a really nice guy, how about $300/hr? They are Phishing for your acceptable rate and starting high. It's a business tactic.

 

[Jenesis]

I don't see anything wrong with this at all. Not sure why the Jen does.
Sometimes I will text for rates and the reply is $400/hr. I politely decline....only to get a text 10 minutes later, okay, you sound like a really nice guy, how about $300/hr? They are Phishing for your acceptable rate and starting high. It's a business tactic.

It is the passive aggressive fake playing nice BS way of doing it really.


and if she texts you back on her own, that is different. If they advertise two different rates,
That is different but the BS way he goes about it gross to me. I would have more respect for you because you just decline. Hell I would more respect for the guy who just asks directly. “will you consider x amount?”

Maybe I am reading the tone wrong but it sounds to me more like;

Oh too bad you won’t make any money then, good luck getting your next client. With the condescending - have a wonderful day - at the end. It just comes across gross to me.

Maybe I’m wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time. I don’t work on a sliding scale. Never have so maybe this is how it is done and I am just not experienced with that but when I get guys trying this it is cringey to me.

 

[blueray]

Maybe I am reading the tone wrong ...

Not sure if you are or you're not. Reading tone is tough though....and why I hate texting.