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winstar said:
I don't know the answer to that. The eroding dollar coupled by coming inflation will erode the dollar value of your profits. Best bet would be to invest your profits to keep above inflation and a fluctuating dollar.

Maybe gold, maybe in actual real estate. Maybe (and this is big maybe, in oil)


Don't be too quick to assume the dollar is toast. Just think for a moment, who would gain from the demise of the dollar (no one I can think off) who is saying the dollar is toast? (the same morons that said everything is ok before) Who is opposed to the rise of gold prices (every central bank and majory nation that issues FIAT currency).
 
nottyboi said:
Don't be too quick to assume the dollar is toast. Just think for a moment, who would gain from the demise of the dollar (no one I can think off) who is saying the dollar is toast? (the same morons that said everything is ok before) Who is opposed to the rise of gold prices (every central bank and majory nation that issues FIAT currency).

Hmm...its not really about who has the most to gain or lose. There are fundamental economic conditions at play not just internally, but externally which are influencing the dollar.

We're in the dark right now, and we don't know who will come out on top, who will do well, and who will do worse. I think we are doing pretty good, but our economic health is dependent on so many other external factors that if others do bad, so will we. And all of this instability, especially what is going on externally is a cause for concern, because while we can have a certain amount of control over our own economic health, we don't with regards to other countries we are tied in economically with. And nobody knows how this is going to all play out.

Why do you think we had a G-8 summit to discuss these issues? It's because we are globally intrenched in these issues. If we don't buy goods that are manufactured in say China, what do you think will happen to the factories and jobs there? How will impoverished countries feed their people? What social consequences will occur because of this? Will this result in civil wars and social services breakdown? In impoverished countries that are dependent on our rates of consumption and are a billion strong what will be their fallout? We don't know. And if our major manufacturing centers that were outsourced breakdown, what will happen to the cost of manufacturing these goods here? How will that push inflation for say a computer? How high will inflation rise to account for the loss of supply because these factories shut down in China, because they couldn't afford to maintain them?

These may have been theoretical consequences, but we are coming close to them being actual consequences.
 
winstar said:
Hmm...its not really about who has the most to gain or lose. There are fundamental economic conditions at play not just internally, but externally which are influencing the dollar.

We're in the dark right now, and we don't know who will come out on top, who will do well, and who will do worse. I think we are doing pretty good, but our economic health is dependent on so many other external factors that if others do bad, so will we. And all of this instability, especially what is going on externally is a cause for concern, because while we can have a certain amount of control over our own economic health, we don't with regards to other countries we are tied in economically with. And nobody knows how this is going to all play out.

Why do you think we had a G-8 summit to discuss these issues? It's because we are globally intrenched in these issues. If we don't buy goods that are manufactured in say China, what do you think will happen to the factories and jobs there? How will impoverished countries feed their people? What social consequences will occur because of this? Will this result in civil wars and social services breakdown? In impoverished countries that are dependent on our rates of consumption and are a billion strong what will be their fallout? We don't know. And if our major manufacturing centers that were outsourced breakdown, what will happen to the cost of manufacturing these goods here? How will that push inflation for say a computer? How high will inflation rise to account for the loss of supply because these factories shut down in China, because they couldn't afford to maintain them?

These may have been theoretical consequences, but we are coming close to them being actual consequences.

The dollar IS the global currency. It is what enables world trade to occur today. It may diminsih gradually, but I think EVERY central bank will act to prevent it's collapse. So the dollar cannot really be taken out like Soros took down the UK pound. Even a collection of the richest individuals in the world cannot compete with all the central banks of the worlds richest countries acting together.