2 thingsI just say no when asked. If they say can I sit down, I say sure but I'm not going to the VIP. Just having a drink and enjoying the stage shows. If they ask why I'm not interested, I tell them it's not good value. That's usually followed by, please explain.
Okay, $10-20 VIP fee plus $20 for every 3 minute song. That's simply not good value. I tell them it's not difficult to find a MPA who offers a 30 minute massage with a HJ, for in many cases, less than the price of a trip to the VIP and a two song dance.
They don't usually argue much after that.![]()
1) Most songs average 3.5-4 minutes. Obviously the experience is different - lapdance vs nude girl bodyslide and HE, but at around $120-140 for 30 min at a body rub, it's almost a wash economically - @ 4 minutes a song you are looking at 24 min for $120, 28 min for $140.
2) VIP fee? Never been charged that before. We go, it's $20/song, and the good ones wait until a new song starts before starting and keeping count. That said, I've learned that many girls count more songs than actually occurred so my rule was after every song is over, please relay the count.
This all said, I can't understand why any guy would go and pay the same money when there's clearly better value at an MP.