Trump will not give a penny to Ukraine - Hungary PM Orban

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Donald Trump will not fund Ukraine's fight against Russia's invasion if he is elected US president again, Hungarian PM Viktor Orban has said.

"He will not give a penny in the Ukraine-Russia war. That is why the war will end," the conservative premier said after meeting Mr Trump in Florida.

The former US president has pledged to end the war "within 24 hours" if elected - but provided no details.

Mr Orban is openly backing his long-term ally in the 2024 White House race.

"It is obvious that Ukraine cannot stand on its own feet," Mr Orban told Hungary's M1 TV channel late on Sunday.

"If the Americans don't give money and weapons, along with the Europeans, then the war is over. And if the Americans don't give money, the Europeans alone are unable to finance this war. And then the war is over."

He added that Mr Trump had "pretty detailed plans" on how to end the Russia-Ukraine war - but did not elaborate. The BBC has asked the Trump campaign for comment.

As president Mr Trump would have to sign off spending bills that come from Congress. He has in the past expressed scepticism that the US should go on funding Ukraine's defence.

At their Friday meeting in Mr Trump's Mar-a-Lago mansion, the former US president praised his guest. "There's nobody that's better, smarter, or a better leader than Viktor Orban. He's fantastic," he said.

During his US visit, Mr Orban did not meet current US President Joe Biden, who is expected to be Mr Trump's main rival in the presidential elections in November.

It is highly unusual for a visiting foreign leader to schedule talks with former counterparts without calling on the current leadership.

The Hungarian prime minister has repeatedly drawn strong criticism from fellow EU leaders for maintaining close ties with Russian President Vladimir Putin, ever since he launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022.

Unlike many other Western nations, Mr Orban refuses to send weapons to its neighbour Ukraine, stating repeatedly that Kyiv is unable to win against a nuclear-armed Russia.

EU leaders are increasingly concerned that a second Trump presidency would see a significant reduction in US military and financial aid to Ukraine and also the Nato military alliance.

A $95bn (£75bn) foreign aid bill - including $60bn in military assistance to Ukraine - has been stalled in US Congress because of Republican opposition.

The Republicans - openly encouraged by Mr Trump - say they will not allow the bill to clear the final hurdle in the House of Representatives without first agreeing additional funding for US border security.

At a rally last month he told supporters the cash should be loaned rather than given without strings.

"They want to give them $60 billion more. Do it this way. Loan them the money. If they can make it, they pay us back."

Russian forces have recently made gains in eastern Ukraine, as Kyiv experiences acute shortages in ammunition.

Ukraine is critically dependent on weapons from the US, the main supplier, and other Western allies to keep fighting Russia - a much bigger military force with an abundance of artillery ammunition.

 

oil&gas

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Trump will give you money if you ask him nicely. He is a
monstrous egomaniac. Europe just has to stroke his ego
the right way.

 

y2kmark

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Trump will give you money if you ask him nicely. He is a
monstrous egomaniac. Europe just has to stroke his ego
the right way.

The Donald won't be able to "give" anyone any money until after he gets out of court in about 15 years (liberal estimate). The lawsuits are just going to keep advancing - like something out of the sorcerer's apprentice. Can't think of a better analogy right now, sorry if Disney is to woke for some here...
 

NotADcotor

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Hell it's easy to end the war, just tell Ukraine that the US will start lobbing nukes till they surrender. For that matter, why not sell out the Potato Union they were part of the USSR, and FInland, I mean they were Russian clay under the Tsars. Trump is the sort of treasonous cunt that would do such a thing.

However no adult would. Also Orban really?
You know your position is without merit when you are on team Orban.

But then you did quote a source that literally said the Jews control the US so...
 

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"If the Americans don't give money and weapons, along with the Europeans, then the war is over. And if the Americans don't give money, the Europeans alone are unable to finance this war. And then the war is over."

This is utterly false. European allies in NATO have the means to cover the
$60 billion of aid blocked by Mike Johnson. Europe has to demonstrate its
determination to fund Ukraine's military in the absence of the U.S. and Trump
will be happy to send aids of money and weapons to Ukraine to match the
European aid.

Sweden's arms industry already stands to profit from
Europe's urgent need to fortify defense against Russia. There is also Norway
who has also raked in billions from selling overpriced oil and gas to Europe thanks
to sanctions against Russia. Ukraine would be adequately funded if only Europe has
the will to open the wallet.


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y2kmark

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Donald Trump will not fund Ukraine's fight against Russia's invasion if he is elected US president again, Hungarian PM Viktor Orban has said.

"He will not give a penny in the Ukraine-Russia war. That is why the war will end," the conservative premier said after meeting Mr Trump in Florida.

The former US president has pledged to end the war "within 24 hours" if elected - but provided no details.

Mr Orban is openly backing his long-term ally in the 2024 White House race.

"It is obvious that Ukraine cannot stand on its own feet," Mr Orban told Hungary's M1 TV channel late on Sunday.

"If the Americans don't give money and weapons, along with the Europeans, then the war is over. And if the Americans don't give money, the Europeans alone are unable to finance this war. And then the war is over."

He added that Mr Trump had "pretty detailed plans" on how to end the Russia-Ukraine war - but did not elaborate. The BBC has asked the Trump campaign for comment.

As president Mr Trump would have to sign off spending bills that come from Congress. He has in the past expressed scepticism that the US should go on funding Ukraine's defence.

At their Friday meeting in Mr Trump's Mar-a-Lago mansion, the former US president praised his guest. "There's nobody that's better, smarter, or a better leader than Viktor Orban. He's fantastic," he said.

During his US visit, Mr Orban did not meet current US President Joe Biden, who is expected to be Mr Trump's main rival in the presidential elections in November.

It is highly unusual for a visiting foreign leader to schedule talks with former counterparts without calling on the current leadership.

The Hungarian prime minister has repeatedly drawn strong criticism from fellow EU leaders for maintaining close ties with Russian President Vladimir Putin, ever since he launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022.

Unlike many other Western nations, Mr Orban refuses to send weapons to its neighbour Ukraine, stating repeatedly that Kyiv is unable to win against a nuclear-armed Russia.

EU leaders are increasingly concerned that a second Trump presidency would see a significant reduction in US military and financial aid to Ukraine and also the Nato military alliance.

A $95bn (£75bn) foreign aid bill - including $60bn in military assistance to Ukraine - has been stalled in US Congress because of Republican opposition.

The Republicans - openly encouraged by Mr Trump - say they will not allow the bill to clear the final hurdle in the House of Representatives without first agreeing additional funding for US border security.

At a rally last month he told supporters the cash should be loaned rather than given without strings.

"They want to give them $60 billion more. Do it this way. Loan them the money. If they can make it, they pay us back."

Russian forces have recently made gains in eastern Ukraine, as Kyiv experiences acute shortages in ammunition.

Ukraine is critically dependent on weapons from the US, the main supplier, and other Western allies to keep fighting Russia - a much bigger military force with an abundance of artillery ammunition.

Some staunch NATO ally Orban is turning out to be. How much of Hungry's GDP goes to the military?
 
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If Trump actually makes it to November, he may win the presidency but will be a lame duck of president unable to effect significant domestic change let along international change. NATO will strengthen as America weakens and potentially implodes into a quiet Civil War.
Ukraine as a country is finished, their adult male population is decimated.
Putin will also die soon.
 
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