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Skoob

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But that's not the point you made.

You said that them not voting for rape proved they think she lied.

That's just obviously not true as a matter of simple logic.
If they believed her they would have checked off for rape. So they obviously didn't believe her.
Now why would they have believed her story about using fingers and not his penis?
 

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If they believed her they would have checked off for rape. So they obviously didn't believe her.
That's not true.
They didn't believe it enough.
I don't know why this simple concept is difficult for you.

Now why would they have believed her story about using fingers and not his penis?
They may not have.
They believed he used something.
They couldn't be sure whether it was fingers or penis.
So they picked the one they were sure he committed.

Since the only thing that qualified for rape in New York was penis in vagina, they - quite correctly - didn't mark that as a yes.
None of that means they think she lied.

Now, it is quite possible that after-jury interviews have them saying "We think she lied about the penis thing", but you never bothered to argue that.
You keep insisting not checking the box means they think she lied, which is just logically incoherent.
 
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Skoob

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Something not quite right with you. Maybe you have a brain eating worm like RFK ? Might want to check into that
Considering you can't resist trolling my every post I would say there's something not quite right with you.
Look inward.
 

Skoob

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That's not true.
They didn't believe it enough.
I don't know why this simple concept is difficult for you.



They may not have.
They believed he used something.
They couldn't be sure whether it was fingers or penis.
So they picked the one they were sure he committed.

Since the only thing that qualified for rape in New York was penis in vagina, they - quite correctly - didn't mark that as a yes.
None of that means they think she lied.

Now, it is quite possible that after-jury interviews have them saying "We think she lied about the penis thing", but you never bothered to argue that.
You keep insisting not checking the box means they think she lied, which is just logically incoherent.
So you have proof that she didn't lie?
 

dirtydaveiii

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So you have proof that she didn't lie?
The legal system is an integral part of democracy. The rigorous Court process ensures that 95% of the time the person found guilty or liable actually did commit the crime. The scientific process is also rigorous and produces facts an overwhelming majority of the time. What proof do you have that Trump
did not commit sexual assault? Just wanting to believe it didn't happen or citing possible reasons why his accuser might have lied is not any sort of proof of innocence. The fact is the courts found that Donald j Trump did sexually assault e Jean carrol. The slim possibility that it could be overturned also does not in any way suggest that trunp did not commit the sexyal assault he was found to have in court.
 

dirtydaveiii

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Furthermore the odds that Trump was innocent of all 3 crimes by 2 juries and a judge as well as his CFO and lawyer being convicted of the same crimes wpuls be in the quadrillions to 1.
 

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Just like the Federal Libs that violated the charter of rights also sit with that standing verdict then?

Just want to clarify your hypocrisy here.
Just as I agree by the ruling on the liberals that they should be more careful ending protests.
Just as I agree with the rump ruling that rump is a rapist who has to pay $83 million to one of his victims for defamation.
 

Skoob

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The legal system is an integral part of democracy. The rigorous Court process ensures that 95% of the time the person found guilty or liable actually did commit the crime. The scientific process is also rigorous and produces facts an overwhelming majority of the time. What proof do you have that Trump
did not commit sexual assault? Just wanting to believe it didn't happen or citing possible reasons why his accuser might have lied is not any sort of proof of innocence. The fact is the courts found that Donald j Trump did sexually assault e Jean carrol. The slim possibility that it could be overturned also does not in any way suggest that trunp did not commit the sexyal assault he was found to have in court.
95% of the time when only 51% probability is required in civil court? Sounds like a coin toss to me.
btw The burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused. SO back to you...what proof do you have that he committed sexual assault?

If it was anyone other than Trump this would have been laughed out of court. Only those who already hated him are portraying themselves as righteous when deep down they know it was a con job.
 

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Just as I agree by the ruling on the liberals that they should be more careful ending protests.
So you condone the Liberals violating the Canadian Charter of Rights comrade?
If all they need to do is "be more careful" then why would they be appealing that verdict and not agreeing to do so?

(btw you need more sugar to sugar coat their violation)
 

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95% of the time when only 51% probability is required in civil court? Sounds like a coin toss to me.
btw The burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused. SO back to you...what proof do you have that he committed sexual assault?

If it was anyone other than Trump this would have been laughed out of court. Only those who already hated him are portraying themselves as righteous when deep down they know it was a con job.
I see your a legal expert and know better than the US legal system. 5% is the amount of times the courts get it wrong. You are not coherent enough to understand the difference between burden of proof and wrongful convictions. You have yourself convinced thet since the burden of proof is lower in civil court that Donnie must be innocent enev though 12 jurors decided otherwise. How about donnies 34 felony convictions ? They have a higher burden of proof so therefore by your standards they must most certainly have had happened.
 

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No.
But I don't need it.
I was just pointing out your argument was illogical.
We'll just leave it as you don't have proof either then.
I've stated why I believe she lied.

Illogical is someone not taking a step back and realize this was a sham driven by political bias and sketchy info. If it was anyone other than Trump this would have been laughed out of court.

I just find it funny that people who already didn't like him are suddenly acting like this trial was completely above board when if it was anyone else they would have laughed at the allegations.
 

Skoob

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I see your a legal expert and know better than the US legal system. 5% is the amount of times the courts get it wrong. You are not coherent enough to understand the difference between burden of proof and wrongful convictions. You have yourself convinced thet since the burden of proof is lower in civil court that Donnie must be innocent enev though 12 jurors decided otherwise. How about donnies 34 felony convictions ? They have a higher burden of proof so therefore by your standards they must most certainly have had happened.
34 charges based on the bookkeeping errors. Yawn.
Do you think if it was anyone other than Trump, those charges would have been made? Unlikely.

51% in civil court. Coin toss.

And you're acting like there was a smoking gun. That's funny!
You were played.
 

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34 charges based on the bookkeeping errors. Yawn.
Do you think if it was anyone other than Trump, those charges would have been made? Unlikely.

51% in civil court. Coin toss.

And you're acting like there was a smoking gun. That's funny!
You were played.
Dude anyone other than Trump who would have done all fraud Trump did would have been in jail long time ago.

By god would it be great to have Trump jailed so we dont hear his rant anymore.
 

Skoob

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Dude anyone other than Trump who would have done all fraud Trump did would have been in jail long time ago.

By god would it be great to have Trump jailed so we dont hear his rant anymore.
Well the past few years despite everything the Dems did to weaponize the justice system so he couldn't run for office failed. That was plan A.
Trump is fighting back because he can. That's what democracy is all about right?

Plan B was to hide Biden's mental state from the public and ask him to "step aside" after the public saw for themselves what the Dems have been trying to hide.

The Dems are scared because even after everything they tried to do, he is looking good to win the election.

If he does, they'll go back to Plan A for the next 4 years but this time, there's nothing left for them to attack him with but I'm sure they'll get creative in their desperation.
 
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Well the past few years despite everything the Dems did to weaponize the justice system so he couldn't run for office failed. That was plan A.
Trump is fighting back because he can. That's what democracy is all about right?

Plan B was to hide Biden's mental state from the public and ask him to "step aside" after the public saw for themselves what the Dems have been trying to hide.

The Dems are scared because even after everything they tried to do, he is looking good to win the election.

If he does, they'll go back to Plan A for the next 4 years but this time, there's nothing left for them to attack him with but I'm sure they'll get creative in their desperation.
You are a complete wacko Skoob.

No one weaponized the justice system. Trump is still there because he is protected by the justice system and quite a few billionaires who put their weight.

In fact i think maybe the US deserve another 4 years of Trump to finalized the complete collapse of the country. except of course for a few rich who will get the fuck out.
 
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