Sure, violence is possible, especially if the deep state tries something nefarious, or Trump goes too far. We are in new territory here.
Trump and Musk Are Destroying the Basics of a Healthy Democracy
- Thread starter Knuckle Ball
- Start date
You are correct about a cabal. What the deep state is is a collective group think especially on foreign policy and military/intelligence. It's like minded people hiring and promoting like minded people creating an institutional group think. It happens in all organizations.
In this case Obama campaigned on ending the wars. Instead he did the Surge. The reason was his advisors told him it was the only option. They may have given that answer coming from a position of THINKING it was. But they are heavily influenced by group think to pick that knowing "everyone" else is also thinking that way, and breaking from that can result in a mark on your career path.
Yes Trump is also trying to change that culture. That is what he was elected to do.
John Bolton was part of the deep state? He was the National Security Advisor. That is not the “deep state;” it is literally the opposite of the deep state.
A Deep State, as the theory goes, involves a secret conspiracy of people within the government pursuing their own goals and objectives. If John Bolton is making statements to the press about North Korea’s nukes it is hardly a secret. Everyone can see what he’s doing and if Trump didn’t like it he could have fired him.
Plus…as I recall that was around the time that Trump was calling Kim Jong Un “Little Rocket Man” and threatening him with “fire and fury”; they didn’t fall in love until later. So Bolton’s comments may have been entirely consistent with Trump’s messaging at the time.
Because the new Syrian Leader was a known terrorist who’d had a bounty on his head for some time. The CIA had been arming the Syrian rebels since 2013. When arming rebels in Syria, chances are you might find yourself arming some terrorists.
Anyway…where is the Deep State conspiracy here? There isn’t one.
Last edited:
Group think and the Deep State are two entirely different things. You are conflating the two.
When it results in wars, intelligence agencies spying on its own citizens, perpetuating the oligarchy, and continued expansion of agencies to the point they are too powerful to oppose them yes, they qualify as deep state.
They are dangerous as well.
Lots of Republicans want to destroy Iran; it doesn’t make them part of the deep state.
Maybe WWIII she would be giggling when she pressed the button, and probably drunk
It pervades all institutions and also higher education. Look at the European leaders leading the charge to confront Russia, look at where they went to school, look at where they worked. They have all been assimilated..
Deep State is just a term. Once it gets critical mass, it is self reinforcing. It takes what you are seeing to break it up because at some point the narrative just does not fit reality and people realize its bullshit. Russia will collapse, Russians will turn against Putin, the Russian economy will be rubble etc etc. Even then this may not work.
FYI: It seems many of the right wing geniuses on terb have been using the term Deep State without understanding what it means. I know…I was SHOCKED too!
Anyhow, in the interest of clarity, here is the Wikipedia definition:
The deep state conspiracy theory in the United States is a false American political conspiracy theory that posits the existence of the deep state, a clandestine network of members of the federal government(especially within the FBI and CIA). The theory argues that there exist networks of collaborators within the leadership of the high-level financial and industrial entities, which exercise power alongside or within the elected United States government.[1]
en.m.wikipedia.org
You have now learned something new today.
Don’t bother to thank me.
Anyhow, in the interest of clarity, here is the Wikipedia definition:
The deep state conspiracy theory in the United States is a false American political conspiracy theory that posits the existence of the deep state, a clandestine network of members of the federal government(especially within the FBI and CIA). The theory argues that there exist networks of collaborators within the leadership of the high-level financial and industrial entities, which exercise power alongside or within the elected United States government.[1]
Deep state conspiracy theory in the United States - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
You have now learned something new today.
Don’t bother to thank me.
"Conspiracy"?
Deep State? Yes. Deep state can be defined as a perpetration of policy. As I outlined by continued appointments to create a culture. And promotion of policy.
When it becomes so entrenched how else would you define but as "DEEP"?
FYI: It seems many of the right wing geniuses on terb have been using the term Deep State without understanding what it means. I know…I was SHOCKED too!
Anyhow, in the interest of clarity, here is the Wikipedia definition:
The deep state conspiracy theory in the United States is a false American political conspiracy theory that posits the existence of the deep state, a clandestine network of members of the federal government(especially within the FBI and CIA). The theory argues that there exist networks of collaborators within the leadership of the high-level financial and industrial entities, which exercise power alongside or within the elected United States government.[1]
Deep state conspiracy theory in the United States - Wikipedia
You have now learned something new today.
Don’t bother to thank me.
"You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge." #georgecarlin #harvard #shorts
George Carlin Debates Horace Cooper on Politically Incorrect (hosted by Bill Maher) on May 16th 2001.George Denis Patrick Carlin (May 12, 1937 – June 22, 200...
youtube.com
George Carlin explained it best
You may not need a conspiracy when interests converge but that is not a deep state."You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge." #georgecarlin #harvard #shorts
George Carlin Debates Horace Cooper on Politically Incorrect (hosted by Bill Maher) on May 16th 2001.George Denis Patrick Carlin (May 12, 1937 – June 22, 200...
George Carlin explained it best
