Trigger happy cop strikes again
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Yeah, I dunno. Guy was obviously hiding from the cops, the cop had a split-second to make the decision. If the cop hesitated, and the guy had a gun in his hand, we'd be looking at a dead cop right now.
I'm glad I'm not a cop, thats all I'm gonna say about this one
I'm glad I'm not a cop, thats all I'm gonna say about this one
Yes this is the hard thing in this job. The officers has only a second to make the right decision. Sometimes it's a decision between death or life. After that, the court needs 6 months maybe a year, to make a verdict. Judge, lawyers...etc are arguing about her decision, but the cop got only a second to make the decision in a very dangerous situation. So don't hide if the police searching after you in a house. Shit can be happen.
Exactly what Phil and Iris say. One reason why the Police in the town where my Law School was located offer all of us a Shoot - Don't Shoot session. It was to put it mildly very eye opening.
She said "shit" after yelling "show your hands!" and taking a shot. But she never gave him a second to comply. So it's possible that she didn't mean to shoot him, and that it was an accident. He was hiding in the shadows under that partition leaning against the wall. She probably couldn't see him in the shadows even if she showed his hands. Probably didn't follow protocol, but shit happens.
That was too quick. If she though she was in his field of fire, especially as it was narrow, she should have moved away first. She shouted for him to show his hands, which meant that she didn't see them. If she didn't see them, then he wasn't an immediate threat, gun or no gun. There's no way one can shoot a handgun while sandwiched behind a partition like that without taking a second or 2 to push it over and engage. Gun drawn and pointed, it takes less than .5 second to decide and shoot. She said shit because she realized she overreacted. Shit happens but a lot of cops down there shoot first and ask questions later.
Yeah right, lets see how well you do when you literally have microseconds to decide whether you should shoot someone, or whether you dont make it home tonight for dinner because some asshole is protecting his marijuana grow-op.
BTW I think all drugs should be decriminalized, so lets not even go there
That's exactly how I see this. It's not that easy to be a cop in US. One of the riskiest job. Toronto is a piece of cake for cops compared to cops in US.
Was watching news on TV last night and saw the interview with a recently fired Toronto cop explaining his situation why he did what he did. I don't buy it. How could you throw a few punches to a completely drunk guy in the face who was already hand cuffed in the cruiser. His records on file didn't help him much with his previous records. It's amazing we have 55 officers still on paid duty even after convicted of serious crimes. Only 5 got fired so far.
It's easy to be an armchair quarterback and judge the cops after the fact, it's another to be in their position and have to make that call on the spot. I recall a conversation I had with a Detroit cop some 35 years ago that revolved around the differences between Canadian and American cities and the people who inhabit them. He told me of a complete disrespect towards the police from the general populace. He marveled how Toronto police still had revolvers and fully covered holsters. That's where the talk took a turn towards guns and the prevalence towards gun violence towards the police. He said that officers that didn't pull their handgun at the start of any potential threat, they usually ended up wounded or dead. Videos of confrontations don't show everything and they aren't representative of every encounter.
He was showing his hand, but he had a wallet in it and the cop has bad eyes and thought the wallet was a gun. Probably just preparing to show his ownership certificate so he could move on and go pick up his daughter from the babysitter's. And then the as the guy writhes in pain and shock, all the cop does is yell from a distance to "stop moving". Even when the other officers showed up , nobody seemed to care or console the victim. Did anyone call an ambulance, or were they too busy trying to figure out how to save their own asses?
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Agreed.....
The police is supposed to uphold the law. Their job is supposed to keep the peace. Their job is not to wear a gun and blow people away for taking a second too long to understand what is going on. I don't know about you quick thinkers out there, but my brain usually takes a couple of seconds to register what is going on and what is being asked, especially in a stressful situation.
How is it that the UK cops, German cops and Japanese cops manage to keep their gun crime rates down without going around and blowing people away?
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