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Should the city cull the raccoon population?

  • Yes

    Votes: 43 86.0%

  • No

    Votes: 7 14.0%
  • Total voters
    50
The population is growing because we feed them. Nowadays we have large bins that are always outside, we used to take waste out to the curb on garbage day. It's bi-weekly now so the amount left outside is growing. It's harder to raccoon-proof our waste, they are incredibly smart and skilled with their paws, all that food rewards them.
This is a recent problem directly caused by us.
 
I've had more problems with humans than I've ever had dealing with raccoons foraging for food. There are millions of people in Toronto who do far more damage than however many raccoons there are. Who are we to play God with the lives of innocent animals?

Keep your garbage under control. Simple as that.

All these "raccoon threads" on TERB have me more convinced than ever that there are a LOT of sick twisted sadists on this site. Real men don't obsess about torturing and killing animals.
 
Lot of apartment/condo dwellers piping up now I see. Half think that starving the little buggers (this is humane?) is the way to go because they will move on while others opine that they will die if moved or forced to move as little as a kilometre away. Others think that a little personal greenspace is ticky/tacky whatever that is and that its all the humans fault.
We cull geese and deer at the airport and euthanize dogs and cats routinely without much protest. Interesting
 
train said:
Lot of apartment/condo dwellers piping up now I see. Half think that starving the little buggers (this is humane?) is the way to go because they will move on while others opine that they will die if moved or forced to move as little as a kilometre away. Others think that a little personal greenspace is ticky/tacky whatever that is and that its all the humans fault.
We cull geese and deer at the airport and euthanize dogs and cats routinely without much protest. Interesting
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Not an apartment dweller, and the raccoons can find plenty of food in other areas, they just choose not to because its easier to get at the waste we leave out. Its not starving them, its simply making them work for their food.
If a human wants green space they shouldn't have cut down the forest or plowed up and paved over the fields that used to be there. Humanity doesn't want anything they can't control, so they destroy it and rebuild over it, then complain when the species that were living there before move into what they've built over their homes.
And I protest the euthanization of animals all the time. Too many people refuse to get their pets fixed, but don't want to deal with the consequences of offspring, so they kill off the excess unwanted animals. I protest that quite often. I also protest the attempts to cull wild species near airports and other man-made stretches of developed land that were once the domains of these animals now deemed a 'nuisance' to the people there.
 
SweetSerenity said:
Not an apartment dweller, and the raccoons can find plenty of food in other areas, they just choose not to because its easier to get at the waste we leave out. Its not starving them, its simply making them work for their food.
If a human wants green space they shouldn't have cut down the forest or plowed up and paved over the fields that used to be there. Humanity doesn't want anything they can't control, so they destroy it and rebuild over it, then complain when the species that were living there before move into what they've built over their homes.
And I protest the euthanization of animals all the time. Too many people refuse to get their pets fixed, but don't want to deal with the consequences of offspring, so they kill off the excess unwanted animals. I protest that quite often. I also protest the attempts to cull wild species near airports and other man-made stretches of developed land that were once the domains of these animals now deemed a 'nuisance' to the people there.
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Exactly.

On the CBC doc on coons, it showed High Park in Toronto (where I live). There were virtually no coons in the park. Instead, they chose the neighbourhoods surrounding the park because the pickins are easier. (Coons aren't stupid.) Clearly the attraction is the food. If people simply kept their garbage out of the way of the coons there would be no problem.

The city of Toronto has madated Green Bins, Blue Bins, and Grey Bins. If you use the bins properly, the only one the coons would be interested in is the green bin and these can be locked, or stored in a garage, or hung in the air (what I do) all of which will defeat a coon. People are lazy and they throw food scraps in both the blue and grey bin - which should not be done. The bins are there - use them properly.

A tipped over garbage bin is not reason enough to go round killing coons.

The city of Toronto is facing a 700 million dollar short fall. It's rediculous to even think about expending city funds on something so easily preventable. We humans are such a lazy lot, it's no wonder the coons have figured that out. The bins are there, use them properly, keep your green bin out of the way of the coons if they bother you that much.
 
I heard that antifreeze has a sweet taste that the coons like even though once they drink it they will crawl away and die.

The other critter that needs a serious culling are the geese. The waterfront parks are a mess with all of their green shit. NOw culling the geese should be accompanied by an Honest Ed's giveaway...just like he gave away turkeys these huge geese could all go towards feeding people in Toronto.
 
If we anti-freeze the critters then cook them for poor people, does the poison still work effectively?

We'd either solve two problems in one, or create more problems with blinded people.

But they'd have awesome fur coats!
 
oldjones said:
But on the issue of humaneness, go back to your New Testament and remind yourself we are to treat others as we treat ourselves.
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You forget that the statement applies to humans, not animals. It doesn't even make sense to apply it to animals. We don't cage and slaughter millions of people for consumption either.
 
SweetSerenity said:
If a human wants green space they shouldn't have cut down the forest or plowed up and paved over the fields that used to be there. Humanity doesn't want anything they can't control, so they destroy it and rebuild over it, then complain when the species that were living there before move into what they've built over their homes.
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Nobody here wants to live in a jungle. We prefer our paved roads, brick houses, and cars. You do too. Humans create living space that is hospitable to us because none was created for us.

It doesn't matter who or what was living in an area before we moved there. When we move in, they move out. We have no intention of drafting up Treaties with Coons for land rights. Sorry.
 
james t kirk said:
I've had more problems with humans than I've ever had dealing with raccoons foraging for food. There are millions of people in Toronto who do far more damage than however many raccoons there are. Who are we to play God with the lives of innocent animals?

Keep your garbage under control. Simple as that.

All these "raccoon threads" on TERB have me more convinced than ever that there are a LOT of sick twisted sadists on this site. Real men don't obsess about torturing and killing animals.
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You're absolutely right in all respects. Nearly all the so-called "problems" with animals are actually problems with humans.
 
Racoons do not spread disease (this is a fact), they are just a nuisance. There's no need to cull them because they "bother you". If they're in your attic, then hire an animal control company to remove them. After that, do some freakin' work on your house to make sure they can't get back in. Simple. I had to do it last summer, and the Racoons haven't been back since.

If you are so delicate that having an animal (the size of a medium sized dog) living in a tree on your property without your permission sends you into a murderous rage (in defense of your family of course), then you're a pussy.

If you ask me you should man up and learn to live and let live. Kill what you want to eat and wear, and leave the rest alone.
 
Free barbecue? Lol Complementary Daniel Boon hat.
 
If anything, do not let the government handle this. they will creat a task force to study the problem for years, spending millions upon millions on private consultants and travel expenses to other parts of the world with similar problems. then after 10 years, they say it is not ecologically or economically feasible to do anything about it.
 
TVA said:
If anything, do not let the government handle this. they will creat a task force to study the problem for years, spending millions upon millions on private consultants and travel expenses to other parts of the world with similar problems. then after 10 years, they say it is not ecologically or economically feasible to do anything about it.
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That's right. Just as private citizens tackle their own rodent problems, they should be allowed to dispose of raccoons on their property any way they like. Government is expensive and ineffective.
 
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