Tragedy or stupidity...

toughb

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"On Saturday, Tony Robinson was riding a utility vehicle across the lake's frozen surface, following behind his wife, their daughter, the girl's 11-year-old cousin and a family dog, who were in a Kawasaki Mule, which resembles a large golf cart.


Their vehicle hit a pressure crack in the ice and submerged.


The 11-year-old girl, who wasn't wearing a seatbelt, and the dog managed to escape. But Bray and her daughter were belted into the front seat of the vehicle and couldn't free themselves in time.


Tony Robinson attempted to save his wife and child but his efforts were in vain."

http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090315/090315_rosseau/20090315/?hub=CP24Home

The question is simple.

Was it stupid to be out on a lake in a Kawasaki Mule when our temperatures have been above freezing on a regular basis for over a week?
 
I know the lake well.


Done it in the past up there with cars , this winter has been cold but the warm spells of late should have given them pause.


Sad story.


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I agree both...especially with the mother's experience of living up there.

How can people really think the ice is safe with all the thaw going on.

The one's that still have their vehicles stranded on Lake Simcoe...I laugh at them.
 
And what about this:

A weekend swimming trip to a secret picturesque water hole in Australia’s Northern Territory ended in tragedy when an 11-year-old girl was taken by a crocodile in front of her younger sister and friends.

The children – Briony Goodsell, 11, her sister Beth, 7, and a 12-year-old boy and his ten-year-old sister – were playing in a creek at Black Jungle Swamp, a restricted area inside a crocodile-infested conservation reserve near Lambells Lagoon, a rural town 30 miles east of Darwin, when the attack occurred on Sunday evening.

Briony had swum out farther than her friends into the creek, which was swollen from recent rains, when she suddenly disappeared under the water. She resurfaced moments later and her friends said that Briony had a distressed look on her face as she scrambled for air before disappearing under the water again.

One of the children threw a log out to try to save her, but it was too late. The children told police that they had seen the mouth of a large crocodile – believed to be a giant saltwater crocodile – moments after Briony disappeared. They also saw its tail slap against the water.

The children ran to get help, but a three-hour search failed to uncover any trace of the girl and was called off late on Sunday evening amid poor visibility.
 
It is sad but almost pre-ordained that people will lose their lives in the ice and snow every Winter. Skiiers and snowmobillier deaths in B.C. and elsewhere. Earlier this Winter, hockey great Pit Martin died in a snowmobile accident. Earlier to-day, actress Natasha Richardson was critically injured in a skiing accident.

Now that the warm weather is approaching, it is also pre-ordained that there will be water deaths this Spring and Summer.
 
Very Sad indeed

I feel so bad for the father having to see that. He will never be able to get that image out of his mind. The dead are dead but he will relive this everyday. He may wish he as dead himself.
If you play on the ice you always risk this happening. Not a very good vehicle to be out there on.

Also this is considered to be freak.

My condolences to all of Muskoka
 
He should be charged with child endangerment and manslaughter and do jail time. Stupidity should be punished.
 
Looks like both tragedy and stupidity.....:(
 
Darwin's Theory in action.

Unless of course you are a member of Harper's Reform Party in which case it was God's will in retribution for the wife not taking her husband's name when they were married.
 
This is an absolute tragedy!! But ... I've lived on the water most of my adult life too and I have to shake my head. They most definitely should've known better - all of them and especially the husband. Why wasn't he out in front and scouting for them? That is what normally goes on when there are multiple vehicles heading out on the ice - someone leads and goes slow enough to have an eye for the trouble spots!!

The week before last, we endured temps as low as -31 for about 4 days. Then the thaw set in. It doesn't matter how thick the ice is when this happens, it will be unstable and unpredictable!
 
BallzDeep said:
He should be charged with child endangerment and manslaughter and do jail time. Stupidity should be punished.


Why should Mr. Robinson be held responsible? He was in a different vehicle at the time.:confused:
 
aren't there roads and bridges up there?
Sometimes shortcuts are more cuts than short.
 
hoppy625 said:
Why should Mr. Robinson be held responsible? He was in a different vehicle at the time.:confused:

He was the adult responsible for the safety of those kids, kids rely on adults to look out for them, he failed to and should be charged and brought to justice.

He should have to sit in a jail cell for a while to realize how negligent he was. This guy's an irresponsible imbecile.
 
BallzDeep said:
He was the adult responsible for the safety of those kids, kids rely on adults to look out for them, he failed to and should be charged and brought to justice.

He should have to sit in a jail cell for a while to realize how negligent he was. This guy's an irresponsible imbecile.

The one who was responsible for the safety of the kids was Carolyn Bray-Robinson, the 46 year old woman who was operating the utility vehicle that submerged. She along with the 12 year old girl unfortunately did not survive. Tony Robinson was operating another vehicle and you think he should be charged and sent to jail?

Regardless of what you think ballzdeep the father is currently suffering through something far worse than any jail sentence anyways, the loss of two loved ones.