Trade talks over - Trump's anger at ad

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The government of Ontario, Canada, will air during the first two games of the World Series a TV ad that has infuriated U.S. President Donald Trump, the province's Premier Doug Ford said Friday.

The ad uses edited clips of Republican former President Ronald Reagan in order to criticize Trump's trade policy.

The ad so angered Trump that on Thursday he announced a halt to trade talks with Canada, one of America's biggest trading partners.

Trump accused Canada's government — which did not sponsor the ad — of what he called "egregious behavior" that was intended to "interfere with the decision of the U.S. Supreme Court, and other courts" on tariffs.

The U.S. Supreme Court is set to hear oral arguments next month in a case challenging many of Trump’s tariffs.

Game 1 of the World Series between the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Toronto Blue Jays will be played Friday night, with Game 2 set for Saturday.

Ford said he had directed his team to continue airing the campaign, which features images of U.S. workers and households over a recording of a speech given by former President Ronald Reagan in 1987.

“Our intention was always to initiate a conversation about the kind of economy that Americans want to build and the impact of tariffs on workers and businesses,” Ford wrote in a post on X. “We’ve achieved our goal, having reached U.S. audiences at the highest levels.”

"I’ve directed my team to keep putting our message in front of Americans over the weekend so that we can air our commercial during the first two World Series games," wrote Ford.

However, he added that following discussions with Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, it was decided that Ontario "will pause its U.S. advertising campaign effective Monday so that trade talks can resume."

What Ford did not say is that between Friday and Monday, tens of millions of people would likely see the ad.

This year's World Series is poised to draw huge audiences.

Representatives for the White House and the Canadian Prime Minister’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Carney told reporters earlier Friday that his government was hoping to resume trade talks and “build on thatprogress when the Americans are ready to have those discussions.”

The ad has been airing in the U.S. nationally since at least Oct. 20, when it appeared during Game 7 of the American League Championship Series between the Toronto Blue Jays and the Seattle Mariners.

That game alone averaged 15.03 million viewers combined in the U.S. and Canada, The New York Times reported this week.

The Blue Jays’ victory vaulted them into the World Series for the first time since 1993 — ensuring that Canada would remain top of mind for millions of baseball viewers through at least next week.

The ad edited Reagan’s 1987 speech, using genuine lines but rearranging them.

The ad starts with Reagan saying, “When someone says, ‘Let’s impose tariffs on foreign imports,’ it looks like they’re doing the patriotic thing by protecting American products and jobs, and sometimes for a short while it works, but only for a short time.”

“But over the long run, such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer,” he continues in the ad. “Then the worst happens, markets shrink and collapse, businesses and industries shut down, and millions of people lose their jobs."

The former president was a staunch free trade advocate. But the purpose of this speech was to explain why — despite his strong dislike of tariffs — Reagan had recently imposed import duties on certain Japanese products.

Both U.S. and Canadian firms have been impacted by Trump’s tariffs on goods coming in over the northern border — though Canada has felt a much greater impact.

The Canadian economy had begun showing signs of weakness well before Trump took office.

But it is now “teetering on the brink of recession,” economists with Oxford Economics research group wrote in a note this month.

They pointed to the “troubling environment of persistent trade policy uncertainty, which is weighing heavily on sentiment, investment, and hiring.”

However, the Oxford experts believe the country’s economic picture would improve next year in the wake of USMCA Treaty renegotiations, which they said would likely result in the removal of most tariffs between the two nations.

 

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The Reagan Library has said the video was clipped out of context, Trump has suspended any trade talks with Canada.

Did he run this by the PM, if this is a negotiating strategy he has a lot to learn.
It's a strategy to sway people to add pressure to the SCOTUS. To get more phone calls/emails into lawmakers offices. To make those town halls more uncomfortable.

Cripes are you now snowflaking too?
 
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Won't surprise me if in the end Canada has to kiss Trump's ass
and halt the Ronald Reagan advertisement.
Ford has already stated that they will end as of Monday, but will show during the first two games of the World Series.

Obviously, the ads were doing damage and made the clown in the Whitehouse cry and lie about the ads. LMAO

I'm sure Carney called Dougie and asked him to lay off so they can get the deal that was close to being done, done.


 
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The Reagan Library has said the video was clipped out of context, Trump has suspended any trade talks with Canada.

Did he run this by the PM, if this is a negotiating strategy he has a lot to learn.
The ads are accurate and there was no misrepresentation of Reagan being anti-tariff! The problem is that a MAGA asswipe twat is in charge of the Reagan Foundation and is lying for his clown and chief. Odd how when the first came out , Trump laughed about them and said he would have done the same thing. A few days later, I guess when the heat started coming from people waking up after seeing the ads, he had a meltdown.

Good on Ford for running them during the first two games of the World Series so all can see what a dumbass their clown running their country is.




However, the ad’s overall message doesn’t misrepresent Reagan’s views on tariffs. Reagan said he believed that in the long-term tariffs would lead to trade wars and hurt Americans.

We asked the Reagan Foundation how the ad misrepresented Reagan’s address, but we did not receive a response by publication.

When we asked the White House what was fake about the ad, spokesperson Kush Desai said, "Even The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute is calling out Ontario’s misleading and selective editing of President Reagan’s remarks."

Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Oct. 14 that a $75 million ad buy was planned and would air on major networks. On Oct. 24 — after Trump canceled trade talks with Canada — Ford said the ad would continue to air during the first two World Series games but will pause after that, "so that trade talks can resume."


Some sentences in the ad are not in the same order as Reagan delivered them, but the reordering did not change his meaning. (The sentence, "But over the long run, such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer," was actually delivered earlier in Reagan’s remarks. The ad also edited in the word "but." Reagan said, "And in a moment I'll mention the sound economic reasons for this: that over the long run such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer.")
 

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The ads are accurate and there was no misrepresentation of Reagan being anti-tariff! The problem is that a MAGA asswipe twat is in charge of the Reagan Foundation and is lying for his clown and chief. Odd how when the first came out , Trump laughed about them and said he would have done the same thing. A few days later, I guess when the heat started coming from people waking up after seeing the ads, he had a meltdown.

Good on Ford for running them during the first two games of the World Series so all can see what a dumbass their clown running their country is.




However, the ad’s overall message doesn’t misrepresent Reagan’s views on tariffs. Reagan said he believed that in the long-term tariffs would lead to trade wars and hurt Americans.

We asked the Reagan Foundation how the ad misrepresented Reagan’s address, but we did not receive a response by publication.

When we asked the White House what was fake about the ad, spokesperson Kush Desai said, "Even The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute is calling out Ontario’s misleading and selective editing of President Reagan’s remarks."

Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Oct. 14 that a $75 million ad buy was planned and would air on major networks. On Oct. 24 — after Trump canceled trade talks with Canada — Ford said the ad would continue to air during the first two World Series games but will pause after that, "so that trade talks can resume."


Some sentences in the ad are not in the same order as Reagan delivered them, but the reordering did not change his meaning. (The sentence, "But over the long run, such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer," was actually delivered earlier in Reagan’s remarks. The ad also edited in the word "but." Reagan said, "And in a moment I'll mention the sound economic reasons for this: that over the long run such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer.")
Those ads are as stupid as Smith talking about separation to MAGA. DoFo needs to stay in his lane and take care of the things he is responsible instead of sending $75 million of provincial money to america and screwing up tariff talks. Ontario has 800,000 unemployed and those ads will note help. Instead he took $230 million of retraining money and gave that to his donors. DoFo is Canada's trump.
 
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Those ads are as stupid as Smith talking about separation to MAGA. DoFo needs to stay in his lane and take care of the things he is responsible instead of sending $75 million of provincial money to america and screwing up tariff talks. Ontario has 800,000 unemployed and those ads will note help. Instead he took $230 million of retraining money and gave that to his donors. DoFo is Canada's trump.
Yet if there were a Provincial election held today, he would not only win but probably gain even more seats.
 

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Yet if there were a Provincial election held today, he would not only win but probably gain even more seats.
That's like rich bragging about how popular trump is.

You keep saying you like him and he's popular but he's MAGA.
There are massive cuts to education, health care, social services combined with the creeping privatization and the biggest deficits in Ontario history by far.

What he's good at is stupid pressers where he eats ice cream, pours out Canadian booze on the ground and declares he's captain Canada.
DoFo spends hundreds of millions on ads and pulled a republican style election campaign. Sadly that works.

But try to defend his actual policy and......


 

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That's like rich bragging about how popular trump is.

You keep saying you like him and he's popular but he's MAGA.
There are massive cuts to education, health care, social services combined with the creeping privatization and the biggest deficits in Ontario history by far.

What he's good at is stupid pressers where he eats ice cream, pours out Canadian booze on the ground and declares he's captain Canada.
DoFo spends hundreds of millions on ads and pulled a republican style election campaign. Sadly that works.

But try to defend his actual policy and......


No, I don't believe Trump would win if an election were held today because he is not popular among the masses. If he were running against a Gavin or Shapiro I believe he would lose. I also would not classify Doug as MAGA and to do so shows how far you will go to the point of looking silly. MAGA folks can't stand Doug. As I said before, if the Libs come up with a good candidate who presents a viable alternative, I would be lured back, but at the present time, it's all Dougie.
 

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That's like rich bragging about how popular trump is.

You keep saying you like him and he's popular but he's MAGA.
There are massive cuts to education, health care, social services combined with the creeping privatization and the biggest deficits in Ontario history by far.

What he's good at is stupid pressers where he eats ice cream, pours out Canadian booze on the ground and declares he's captain Canada.
DoFo spends hundreds of millions on ads and pulled a republican style election campaign. Sadly that works.

But try to defend his actual policy and......
I will also add, you should be praising Dougie for helping Carney dismantle Pee Pee. He played a huge role in that but then again, so did Trumpy. LMAO
 

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No, I don't believe Trump would win if an election were held today because he is not popular among the masses. If he were running against a Gavin or Shapiro I believe he would lose. I also would not classify Doug as MAGA and to do so shows how far you will go to the point of looking silly. MAGA folks can't stand Doug. As I said before, if the Libs come up with a good candidate who presents a viable alternative, I would be lured back, but at the present time, it's all Dougie.
Ford is MAGA, but he operates as if he is the boss of his own minor crime syndicate. That's why MAGA hate him.
The Ford corruption is more subtle. The Muskoka cottage is massive but DoFo doesn't do gilt, instead he does reams of $1000 plate dinners and insider deals.

But everything he does is designed to make his insiders money, regardless of what it does to Ontario.
Housing - he gave a ton of developer breaks
Health - privatization costs way more, delivers less but he can declare he's spending more
Education - now in the process of figuring which school properties he can sell after he fired all trustees
Ontario Place - massive cost to Ontario for a private developer
Science Centre - massive cost to Ontario for a private developer
LCBO - losing $1 billion for Ontario so his american 7/11 buddies and the Loblaws team can make that cash

You can argue he's popular but you really can't argue he's done anything good
 

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I will also add, you should be praising Dougie for helping Carney dismantle Pee Pee. He played a huge role in that but then again, so did Trumpy. LMAO
That has more to do with Ford wanting to go federal.
Its not something he should be praised for.
 

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Ford is MAGA, but he operates as if he is the boss of his own minor crime syndicate. That's why MAGA hate him.
The Ford corruption is more subtle. The Muskoka cottage is massive but DoFo doesn't do gilt, instead he does reams of $1000 plate dinners and insider deals.

But everything he does is designed to make his insiders money, regardless of what it does to Ontario.
Housing - he gave a ton of developer breaks
Health - privatization costs way more, delivers less but he can declare he's spending more
Education - now in the process of figuring which school properties he can sell after he fired all trustees
Ontario Place - massive cost to Ontario for a private developer
Science Centre - massive cost to Ontario for a private developer
LCBO - losing $1 billion for Ontario so his american 7/11 buddies and the Loblaws team can make that cash

You can argue he's popular but you really can't argue he's done anything good
I don't disagree that Ford is corrupt and will help out his buds but I will paint every past politician with the same corrupt brush. It's just the level of corruption that differs.
 

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That has more to do with Ford wanting to go federal.
Its not something he should be praised for.
I doubt he has it in him at this point in his life to go the Federal route. If he were younger and healthier, perhaps, but not the Doug of today.
 

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I don't disagree that Ford is corrupt and will help out his buds but I will paint every past politician with the same corrupt brush. It's just the level of corruption that differs.
That's a very MAGA answer.
Its the wyatt and oracle defence every time.
 

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That's a very MAGA answer.
Its the wyatt and oracle defence every time.
It is true and I believe it's human nature. When one is given the key to the kingdom, it's only a matter of time before they dip their hand in to see how much they can pull out for themselves. It's just some will grab handful after handful, whereas some are more reasonable and sneaky about it. LOL
 

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Trump is full of shit and everything he said about the ad was a lie... he is a bad faith negotiator and an asshole. Carney is playing it cool right now, but eventually we'll have to hit them with counter tariffs. How does 100% tariffs on American made cars sound? If only we had enough balls and unity to refuse to sell them oil and electricity, but of course Quebec and Alberta are far too selfish.
THere is no need to put 100% counter tariffs on US cars, just put in place an auto pact. I car exported from Canada = 1 car imported tariff free.
 

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It is true and I believe it's human nature. When one is given the key to the kingdom, it's only a matter of time before they dip their hand in to see how much they can pull out for themselves. It's just some will grab handful after handful, whereas some are more reasonable and sneaky about it. LOL
I think that's true in america but I think its really much more limited to conservatives here.
The NDP and Greens definitely have no really accusations or considerations that they are corrupt. Provincial libs here likely are but the federal libs are a question mark.
I think you could argue that Trudeau and the last few lib leaders have not been corrupt in this way. Though the support of the genocide has pushed my own limits on this.

The bigger shame is accepting that you think they are all corrupt so that you back and support corruption instead of calling it out and trying to stop it.
That's very MAGA, I have to say.
 
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