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TPP - dirtiest deal you've never heard of

JohnLarue

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Any one who agrees with this, is out of their minds. Its like signing a deal with the devil (Money Interests). Please lets get this westerner out of office as soon as possible.
anyone who takes that attitude
a) does not understand business today or
b) has a vested interest
c) is a union member (in which case both a & b also apply)

So are you miss-informed or protecting an interest?
 

Frankfooter

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anyone who takes that attitude
a) does not understand business today or
b) has a vested interest
c) is a union member (in which case both a & b also apply)

So are you miss-informed or protecting an interest?
Which interest are you protecting?
Foreign corporations?

I'll stick to backing Canadians.
 

glamphotographer

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Nov 5, 2011
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Most people are brainwashed into believing that this a is trade deal among countries, it is not. It's backroom/private and closed door secret deal among the worlds largest corporation to boast profits and asking these countries to sell their souls to the devil.
 

fuji

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Most people are brainwashed into believing that this a is trade deal among countries, it is not. It's backroom/private and closed door secret deal among the worlds largest corporation to boast profits and asking these countries to sell their souls to the devil.
That is a lot of hooey. It is a PROPOSED trade deal between countries the full text of which will be made public before our Parliament debates it.
 

glamphotographer

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That is a lot of hooey. It is a PROPOSED trade deal between countries the full text of which will be made public before our Parliament debates it.
Still won't vote Conservative and still won't support the TPP because it's not a free trade deal. Drug companies looking for a win fall and the biggest winner in the deal. We are the biggest loser. You'll see in 10 years.
 

fuji

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Still won't vote Conservative and still won't support the TPP because it's not a free trade deal. Drug companies looking for a win fall and the biggest winner in the deal. We are the biggest loser. You'll see in 10 years.
Whether you vote Conservative or not, the full details of the TPP will be published before our Parliament publicly debates whether or not to ratify it.

I am sure that the union boffins and neocommunists will cry all over the internet, but they are idiots.
 

JohnLarue

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Which interest are you protecting?
Foreign corporations?

I'll stick to backing Canadians.
you will stick it to Canadians?
Well we all know that

Seriously
Any deal which opens up markets for companies operating here in Canada is good for our economy
Tariffs & protectionism is an 19th century mentality & those who try to hide behind it will get steamrolled

You backing Canadians is too funny
You do not understand what is going to drive our economy going forward, yet you claim you know what is best for Canadians
What is worse is you do this out of political bias & a pathological obsession with attacking the governing conservatives

you mean "you will stick to backing the loonie left"
 

bluecolt

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The problem is it is a global economy, and if you decide to sit out, you will ultimately lose.

Canada is resource rich and needs exports. For example, while it would be great to have a strong auto industry, those jobs are gone and we cannot compete with Mexico (especially with the unions driving wages into the stratosphere).

Industry lobbyists are driving the world direction, and there is little Canada can do about it. Being involved is the only viable approach.

I assume by "non middle aged" you are under 30? If so, I definitely agree your generation has been given a shitty hand. Expensive education, expensive housing, middling job market, and governments building massive debt your generation can never pay off. Oddly enough the most carnage in terms of competitiveness and financial management in Ontario is coming from the provincial Liberals. If you want things to get worse, double down and elect federal Liberals where Trudeau is promising the world to get elected, and will make sure you are the one paying for it. Then we have Mulcair who has stated he will sit out the trade deal. While I think the PCs have done many questionable things, they are also the only ones running on their performance, and still seem to be the only party with some sane financial management remaining.
Garrett,
Finally, you are some one who has common sense. I have found that young people like twizz and his friends here on the board act intellectual and politically astute but know nothing about anything. They just spew superficial bullshit that they have heard from their professors or John Stewart. Their knowledge is far and wide but only one millimeter thick, as shallow as you can get.
 

Frankfooter

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You backing Canadians is too funny
You do not understand what is going to drive our economy going forward, yet you claim you know what is best for Canadians
What is worse is you do this out of political bias & a pathological obsession with attacking the governing conservatives

you mean "you will stick to backing the loonie left"
TPP will allow the US or Japan to demand all your personal info, download history, posting history if they accuse you of 'intellectual property theft'.
Are you ok with having all your posts here accessed?

That's according to the wikileaks copy of the TPP, since the government won't tell us what they are signing us up to.
https://wikileaks.org/tpp-ip3/
 

JohnLarue

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TPP will allow the US or Japan to demand all your personal info, download history, posting history if they accuse you of 'intellectual property theft'.
Are you ok with having all your posts here accessed?

That's according to the wikileaks copy of the TPP, since the government won't tell us what they are signing us up to.
https://wikileaks.org/tpp-ip3/
Oh boy
Stop the scare mongering until you learn enough to be taken seriously.
You are a POS
 

Frankfooter

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Oh boy
Stop the scare mongering until you learn enough to be taken seriously.
You are a POS
What evidence have you found to prove what I'm saying isn't correct?
Are you just lying through your teeth, or do you have any real information?
 

fuji

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What evidence have you found to prove what I'm saying isn't correct?
Are you just lying through your teeth, or do you have any real information?
You made up a lot of total bullshit and posted it, and then when someone called you out for not having any source for your idiotic lies, you call THEM a liar? So your made up bullshit is all true, and anyone who says it isn't is lying?

Not only are you a liar, but you are a STUPID liar. Literally, your lies are STUPID.
 
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