Toyo Tires
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Actually the opposite may be true. I have Toyo Proxes (spelling?) all seasons are they are crap in snow, not much good in rain either. I knew that when I bought them because I saw the ratings, but the price was good, and I have a winter set anyway.
I use Toyos for the summer and Bridgestone Blizzaks during the winter. For my money, the Blizzaks are excellent winter tires. Don't waste your money on all-seasons, they just don't have the bite you need in the winter.
if you really want the scoop go to tirerack.com or consumer reports, but I think you'll find that the best wet road and snow all seaon is Goodyear's Assurance Triple Tred.
at least that's what my buddy says
the capt'n has a point though, you can't beat good snows
at least that's what my buddy says
the capt'n has a point though, you can't beat good snows
Personally I would stay away from ALL season tires as an all year round tires, and just get a good set of winter tires for winter and good set of summer tires for the summer. All season are not that good, and I have a feeling that this upcoming winter is going to be a bad one. I suggest to look into Nokia winter tire or if you're on a budget look at a winter tire call tiger paw (winter) tires. Toyo tire you will pay a pretty good penny for them, but from my dealing with them they are good summer performance tire company, and a ok winter brand.
Add me to the list of "winter tires for winter" and "summer tires for summer". The Wheels section of the Toronto Star have been quoted as saying " all seasons = no seasons". Your best bet is to put a set of snows on some steel rims and a set of pure summer tires on your factory or custom rims. This will save you money in the long run swapping back and forth, not only on labor costs, but also wear and tear on the rims.(prying the tire on and off). And you must remember, now you will only have to buy tires every 4 years instead of every two.
Take a look at Gislaved winter tires. They are part of the Continental family and seem to be priced fairly well. Nokians if you have the bucks. And I have used the Toyo Observe snows and they were great. Not too happy with the Yokohamas.
KW
Take a look at Gislaved winter tires. They are part of the Continental family and seem to be priced fairly well. Nokians if you have the bucks. And I have used the Toyo Observe snows and they were great. Not too happy with the Yokohamas.
KW
Stoo
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"All seasons" are OK when the are new, and in the city, and during a moderate winter.
I have two 4WD vehicles, a truck and a car, and I put snows on both. But then I live in the boonies, and head to the mountains of Vermont every 3 weeks, and have come into some pretty shitty weather...
I have two 4WD vehicles, a truck and a car, and I put snows on both. But then I live in the boonies, and head to the mountains of Vermont every 3 weeks, and have come into some pretty shitty weather...
New Michelin X-1S
Toyo tires were my all-time mileage champs. 90,000 miles on an OEM FWD japanese sedan. That same rubber hardness that provides the mileage may not provide the bite in the winter snow and ice. However that old sedan had 60% of the weight on the front driving wheels so it still drove like a tank in the snow.
For a RWD sports car or sedan, the Blizzaks work fine in winter snow and ice, but still require more cautious driving habits than FWD or AWD. The only thing that stopped me were snow drifts so high that they bottomed out the pan of the car and I had to dig out. I am trying the new Michelin X-1S winter tire because they are cheaper than the Blizzaks. Two complete sets of summer and winter wheels and tires are the safest way to go on RWD cars. My FWD car does fine with all season tires. I also think Tirerack does a nice job helping you sort through the trade offs regarding traction vs wear. My biggest complaint against Goodyear tires has been uneven wear. I have also had good results with Pirelli all season on the FWD.
Cooper makes some nice all season tires at a low price. Take a look at them.
Toyo tires were my all-time mileage champs. 90,000 miles on an OEM FWD japanese sedan. That same rubber hardness that provides the mileage may not provide the bite in the winter snow and ice. However that old sedan had 60% of the weight on the front driving wheels so it still drove like a tank in the snow.
For a RWD sports car or sedan, the Blizzaks work fine in winter snow and ice, but still require more cautious driving habits than FWD or AWD. The only thing that stopped me were snow drifts so high that they bottomed out the pan of the car and I had to dig out. I am trying the new Michelin X-1S winter tire because they are cheaper than the Blizzaks. Two complete sets of summer and winter wheels and tires are the safest way to go on RWD cars. My FWD car does fine with all season tires. I also think Tirerack does a nice job helping you sort through the trade offs regarding traction vs wear. My biggest complaint against Goodyear tires has been uneven wear. I have also had good results with Pirelli all season on the FWD.
Cooper makes some nice all season tires at a low price. Take a look at them.
poonhunter said:
Thanks. The WR sounds good. Here's a review: http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/hl/nokian.htm
goodtime
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As per Wheel's test, few newer premium All-seasons with near winter tire traction but only when new. As other stated, for better winter traction, stick with winter tires.
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