Tow truck driver protest

GameBoy27

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As far as I'm concerned, tow truck operators for the most part are thieves who prey on helpless individuals. I see nothing wrong with this legislation.

Toronto police are warning motorists about traffic disruptions in and around the city today due to a scheduled protest by the province’s tow truck drivers.

The tow truck industry has planned an "operators day of awareness" at Queen's Park today to protest Bill 15, legislation they say negatively impacts tow truck drivers.

Police say the protest will impact morning and evening rush hour in the city and “excessive delays” could be possible on municipal expressways, as well as arterial and local roads.

The first wave of operators involved in the protest will be proceeding southbound on the Don Valley Parkway, exiting at the Richmond Street East off-ramp, continuing down Richmond Street to University Avenue and parking on Queen’s Park Crescent.

The second wave of protesters will head east on the Gardiner Expressway to the Yonge Street off-ramp and will proceed northbound on University Avenue, arriving at Queen’s Park Crescent at around 9:30 a.m.

The operators, police say, plan to encircle Queen’s Park Crescent with their trucks from around 10 a.m. to 1 p.m.

Bill 15, the province has said, benefits Ontarians by giving customers the option to pay tow truck drivers by credit card and requiring tow truck operators to provide an itemized list of charges. The goal of the regulations is to help prevent inflated tow costs and unfair practices.

Members of the tow truck industry, however, say the law limits the number of hours operators can work and will only drive up the costs for their services.

http://www.cp24.com/news/tow-truck-driver-protest-could-cause-major-traffic-disruptions-downtown-police-1.2845604
 
As far as I'm concerned, tow truck operators for the most part are thieves who prey on helpless individuals. I see nothing wrong with this legislation.

Agreed :thumb: they are involved with this insurance scam during collision by trying to get the people to take their vehicles to one of their shops. They say things ohh we will help with the deductible, and try to think 101 reasons why you should go with their shop and not one that is approved on your insurance companies list. They use very intense manipulation tactics. I experienced this intense pressure from one of them, luckily I didn't bite and the fing asshole thought he had it. His face was so funny when I was like take me to this place instead, since I wanted to mess back with him by making him believe I was getting sucked into what this asshole was saying. He would not even say good bye to me and I was like thank you so much for your help during this tough time and your valuable advice with the most sincere and genuine face. I was so close to calling the cops. It took every ounce of resistence not to tell him off right there and break. Should have recorded the conversation. I feel sorry for people susceptible to this pressure and tactics. Insurance fraud is a huge problem and it starts with the fing tow truck drivers. Never go to their reccomended shop since your vehicle will never be the same.
 
I get the feeling they'll get little sympathy from the general public. The tow truck driver was very helpful and didn't overcharge me. Said no one ever!
 
They give vultures a bad name.
Way back I got towed.
If they didn't charge for everything. I'm surprised I didn't get the 4 wheels on the ground fee.
And they act like the worst bullies.
Try and ask a question or disagree with something.
They should all be in prison.
 
This is why you get a CAA membership. You may seldom use it, but you're thankful when you actually do.
 
Im shocked nobody is whipping feces at them as they drive by the protest... I mean really? Ya, Im sure accountability will drive prices UP instead of down. Id love to see the diagram predicting THAT! I would've loved to have seen the meeting the preceeded the protest, 'Ok guys.. we've got to come up with something that sounds valid enough to protest this shit. THINK GUYS! 'How r we supposed to scam anyone this way' isn't gonna fly... 'Oh I know, we'll tell them it'll somehow cost more. Ya that's it.' ... ' How will people believe that? Come on' .... 'we get them to believe they're lucky they had a flat tires cuz their transmissions dangling off and their rad is leaking and they should go to your cousin larry's garage to fix it all for a fraction of the price don't we?' .... 'oh ya'... 'ya that's true...ok lets go Men!' *rolls eyes* fuck em!

Unless of course one of you fine gents would like to spend some of your ill gotten gains with me, then Im sure you're the exception and are very honest and lovely. ;-) *lol couldn't help it.. the irony was too tongue in cheek to go unsaid.* Im of course joking.

And ya CAA, AAA etc are non-profit companies and therefor much better. But even then, you've gotta watch it, the guy driving for them may be a kakahead. Ive never had a problem myself with them though. I agree with the above post, membership is invaluable imo and doesn't cost much at all. Best part is, its the individual and not the car that is covered. I was riding with some friends heading for TO from Mtl and broke down near Trenton... I took out my membership and all was well for her car from that point on :-)
 
Their public spokesperson looks like a biker LMAO.

(Note: I've heard some are controlled by biker gangs. Also heard that they will get a % of the shop repair costs and use kick backs to win favours from insurance adjusters. Not to defend them, but this to me makes sense. How on earth can trolling tow truck drivers make a living with a $250 tow that's sporadic or not guaranteed? Someone told me those trucks cost $100-$150K. I can see that for some, but not all.).

I use CAA.

I also hate tow trucks that use the brightest flashing lights on their vehicles (one was so blinding as I was following behind him that I really wanted to give him the finger - better yet, pop him one if I was a criminal myself).

What is so bad about allowing customers to pay by credit cards and offering an itemized list of costs? What a bunch of fucking hoodlums!
 
heard that they will get a % of the shop repair costs and use kick backs to win favours from insurance adjusters. Not to defend them, but this to me makes sense. How on earth can trolling tow truck drivers make a living with a $250 tow that's sporadic or not guaranteed? Someone told me those trucks cost $100-$150K. I can see that for some, but not all.

First educated comment I have heard

Yes, they do get kickbacks from bodyshops.

O/O of tow trucks have a very hard go of it as they are on the bottom of the totem pole which means everyone shits on them and they have to kiss ass when a body shop screws them or they lose the body shop kickback

They fall into the same category as O/O's of highway trucks and taxi cabs

They bought the fucking taxi, highway truck or tow truck without doing due diligence so it is their fault for being bad business men

I am well informed about fools who buy a highway truck and most who buy trucks are flat out bad business men who spend all their income on their mortgage and repairs and operate at a loss and then are forced to subsidize that loss by paying their labor, which is themselves, less than market value.

Their main complaint is they do not want the same safety hour limit that is imposed on me. In other words they want to be on the road 80 fucking hours a week.
 
First educated comment I have heard

Yes, they do get kickbacks from bodyshops.

O/O of tow trucks have a very hard go of it as they are on the bottom of the totem pole which means everyone shits on them and they have to kiss ass when a body shop screws them or lose their customer


Well, I see them all of the time, just parked to the side of the road, waiting and waiting and waiting. Then you hope you parked in a lucky spot for the day. Then you hope you don't fight with the next tow truck driver, cuz there's a lot of competition.

(Not to defend them, but I'd probably do what they do if that was my gig lol).
 
I think they should have to have black boxes in their trucks. Whenever there is an accident, they break every traffic law racing to get there first. It is really dangerous, but they probably know all the cops nearby are busy, so they get away with it.
 
As far as I'm concerned, tow truck operators for the most part are thieves who prey on helpless individuals. I see nothing wrong with this legislation.

I get the complaints about limiting hours. If they focused their protest just on that and they applauded the other aspects I might support them.
 
I get the complaints about limiting hours. If they focused their protest just on that and they applauded the other aspects I might support them.

I'm in the trucking industry and my hours per day are limited. I also have to fill out a log book too. It's about time these scavengers got regulated.
I have National Auto League instead of CAA and only use NAL authorized towing services. I won't deal with those highway vultures.
 
I'm in the trucking industry and my hours per day are limited. I also have to fill out a log book too. It's about time these scavengers got regulated.
I have National Auto League instead of CAA and only use NAL authorized towing services. I won't deal with those highway vultures.

They will fuck you over every chance they get...
One company was caught on camera( dash cam)..blocking another company from getting to an accident call...so his fellow T/T driver could get there first......fucking scum!
 
I'm in the trucking industry and my hours per day are limited. I also have to fill out a log book too. It's about time these scavengers got regulated.
I have National Auto League instead of CAA and only use NAL authorized towing services. I won't deal with those highway vultures.

That may be so, but the MTO is applying blanket transportation rules to a niche. We have the same problem in construction. Our employees are not truck drivers, they're construction workers who use trucks. The MTO actually had a gall to tell us to enforce on duty time. The union, of course, told them to take a hike, but I know that the guys are padding the log books so they have a cover. That's what the tow truck drivers will do as well. It's an example of bringing in unnecessary rules. Are the cabbies and limo drivers under the clock? Are the commuters who work long hours and then sit in traffic for a couple of hours? How about trades? I see the need for credit card acceptance and pricing rules, but just once, I'd like to see the government actually fixing what's broken and leaving the unbroken alone.
 
First educated comment I have heard

Yes, they do get kickbacks from bodyshops.

O/O of tow trucks have a very hard go of it as they are on the bottom of the totem pole which means everyone shits on them and they have to kiss ass when a body shop screws them or they lose the body shop kickback

They fall into the same category as O/O's of highway trucks and taxi cabs

They bought the fucking taxi, highway truck or tow truck without doing due diligence so it is their fault for being bad business men

I am well informed about fools who buy a highway truck and most who buy trucks are flat out bad business men who spend all their income on their mortgage and repairs and operate at a loss and then are forced to subsidize that loss by paying their labor, which is themselves, less than market value.

Their main complaint is they do not want the same safety hour limit that is imposed on me. In other words they want to be on the road 80 fucking hours a week.

I'm in the trucking industry and my hours per day are limited. I also have to fill out a log book too. It's about time these scavengers got regulated.
I have National Auto League instead of CAA and only use NAL authorized towing services. I won't deal with those highway vultures.


Interesting. I forgot about the limit of hours aspect. We're not in the trucking industry, but construction, and have many trucks on the road, subject to strict rules that could hurt our CVOR.

I suppose they don't sleep in those trucks since they are probably listening to radio chatter?
 
That may be so, but the MTO is applying blanket transportation rules to a niche. We have the same problem in construction. Our employees are not truck drivers, they're construction workers who use trucks. The MTO actually had a gall to tell us to enforce on duty time. The union, of course, told them to take a hike, but I know that the guys are padding the log books so they have a cover. That's what the tow truck drivers will do as well. It's an example of bringing in unnecessary rules. Are the cabbies and limo drivers under the clock? Are the commuters who work long hours and then sit in traffic for a couple of hours? How about trades? I see the need for credit card acceptance and pricing rules, but just once, I'd like to see the government actually fixing what's broken and leaving the unbroken alone.

I can understand for construction workers who drive to and fro job sites out of the city, after working hard for 8 hours. Within GTA probably not as critical.

Isn't the rule on hour limits only on vehicles over 4,500 KG of GVW? (This would affect all tow trucks that haul since you must take into account what you're towing).
 
I can understand for construction workers who drive to and fro job sites out of the city, after working hard for 8 hours. Within GTA probably not as critical.

Isn't the rule on hour limits only on vehicles over 4,500 KG of GVW? (This would affect all tow trucks that haul since you must take into account what you're towing).

The thing is, it's not that critical. It's up to the "discretion" of the inspecting officer whether to enforce the rule in a strict or lax manner. We had an a OK given at the time of the inspection and a violation, punctuated by a $110 ticket in the same circumstances, but at the different time-cost of doing business. Nonsense. I'm all for safety, we all go to extraordinary lengths to assure safe working environment, but this is unnecessary.