Toronto's latest Homicides

[toughb]

Sorry...

Actually it was in part of what you quoted... Iif your are quoting something your comment apply to the quote.

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" Iif your are quoting something your comment apply to the quote". Unless my computer has failed this does not compute.

Kindly be more specific as I'm trying to follow your responses to my questions.

 

[hoser1970]

To every one on this chat board, Lance,s Lad seems like a friendly old curmudeon,,me? i think he is an effete English knob...a one trick pony who picks and chooses his murderers.to villify....how about each and every murderer........

Sadly, more and more murders in Toronto are being commited by juveniles. As I stated in my previous post, this is due to the fact that these individuals know at worst all they will get is a slap on the wrist if caught and convicted. It's time the Youth Criminal Justice Act was amended to address this problem. ANYONE convicted of murder, drug trafficking, rape, or any weapons offense should automatically be tried as an adult. If you're old enough to do the crime, you're old enough to do the time.

btw..what about your outrage concerning all the East Europeans arrested and raided and how they got bail so quickly..i guess they are not in your "target areas"

Sorry, what does the fact that East Europeans got bail have to do with the topic of this thread? Nothing, except perhaps to try and derail the discussion and turn it into a race issue, which IMHO it is NOT.

Solve the problem at the source & sterilize them.

WWII deaths camps is a comment that's a bit over the hill.

And suggesting that the "trash" families of criminals should be sterilized ISN'T?

I believe Hunter made this analogy to make a point, and it is one that needed to be made. It is also worth noting that enforced sterilization is prohibited under the "Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court". It is mind boggling that anyone living in a country such as Canada would even suggest such a "solution".

 

[Jade4u]

I recall a news article about a year or so ago where the Mother was trying to get her daughter to stop seeing this one young lad because she did not like his influence on her. The Mother did work full time to support her daughter etc... in the end the daughter said the Mother was too controling and had the bf kill the Mother. When it comes to stories like that one I cannot say it is always the parents that are to blame.

 

[hoser1970]

I do agree with you Jade that partial responsibility does not always rest with the parent(s) and we have to be careful not to paint all parents of juveniles with the same brush. By the same token, sometimes they ARE part of the problem and should be held to account when this is so.

And Lady of the Nite...very well said!

 

[twobigo]

Sadly, more and more murders in Toronto are being commited by juveniles. As I stated in my previous post, this is due to the fact that these individuals know at worst all they will get is a slap on the wrist if caught and convicted. It's time the Youth Criminal Justice Act was amended to address this problem. ANYONE convicted of murder, drug trafficking, rape, or any weapons offense should automatically be tried as an adult. If you're old enough to do the crime, you're old enough to do the time.



Sorry, what does the fact that East Europeans got bail have to do with the topic of this thread? Nothing, except perhaps to try and derail the discussion and turn it into a race issue, which IMHO it is NOT.





And suggesting that the "trash" families of criminals should be sterilized ISN'T?

I believe Hunter made this analogy to make a point, and it is one that needed to be made. It is also worth noting that enforced sterilization is prohibited under the "Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court". It is mind boggling that anyone living in a country such as Canada would even suggest such a "solution".

you missed my point i believe..i was questioning his agenda..oh and your last sentence....Lance suggested it....

 

[frankcastle]

I blame a lot of our problems on bad parenting. Sorry but at some point the idea of spanking your kid became a taboo. All that time out crap is exactly that. There's no substitute for a good ass kicking. I say this of course with a bit of tongue in cheek but the main point is that parent's are too soft on their kids.

 

[hoser1970]

you missed my point i believe..i was questioning his agenda..oh and your last sentence....Lance suggested it....

No, I got your point. You missed mine, which was that the original post was about a 16 year old kid who is now wanted in connection with two murders.

I'm well aware that Lancs can stand up for himself, however YOU appear to be the only one here with an agenda. You indicated that Lancs had some ulterior motive by raising the question about Eastern Europeans getting bail and questioning why he was not upset about that, even though this had nothing whatsoever to do with this thread!

Now you are trying to suggest that Lancs was the one who brought up sterilization? Sorry, no, it was a different poster entirely.

 

[LancsLad]

To every one on this chat board, Lance,s Lad seems like a friendly old curmudeon,,me? i think he is an effete English knob...a one trick pony who picks and chooses his murderers.to villify....how about each and every murderer........ does your agenda just include certain individuals....btw..what about your outrage concerning all the East Europeans arrested and raided and how they got bail so quickly..i guess they are not in your "target areas"

Effete you say????

One trick pony????


Not bloody likely. Looking at the TPS web site and seeing the list of all those scum, including a TPS officer ,picked up disgusts me and I would penalize them then ship them back to the point of origin as well.

The thing is my thread topic is homicides and these guys were drugs.

You can try and divert attention all you want from the very obvious facts by trying to attack the messenger but it just won't work.

Look back over the last three or four years and there is no denying that a certain group are committing murders at a rate far exceeding their percentage of the population.


So to you I would say, swing and a miss.



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[frankcastle]

I have mixed feeling about law enforcement which I think is the true issue here.

Forget about the ethnicity of the accused because I think that just distracts from the real problems of how can we as a society can reduce crime.

But I have to admit that while I'm conservative with regards to murder I'm liberal with regards to sex and certain drugs. Paraphrasing a Chris Rock bit.

 

[K Douglas]

Looks like this guy pulled a Bernard Goetz (infamous NYC vigilante). Seems these two "victims" were intruders he shot and killed one in the house and chased the other out into the street and put a slug into his chest. I'd like to see what he's charged with here. First of all he needs to contact a lawyer and turn his ass in.

 

[RTRD]

And yet somehow...

Sterilize a whole family for the mistake of one?

At the risk of being labeled and lib or lefty or being banned. The is the most ignorant, stupid thing I have seen posted in awhile. That kind of thinking lead to death camps in WWII.

...you see it here often.

Ahh TERB...I missed you so. The blatant and rampant ignorance. I think I'ma gonna shed a tear....

 

[twobigo]

Effete you say????

One trick pony????


Not bloody likely. Looking at the TPS web site and seeing the list of all those scum, including a TPS officer ,picked up disgusts me and I would penalize them then ship them back to the point of origin as well.

The thing is my thread topic is homicides and these guys were drugs.

You can try and divert attention all you want from the very obvious facts by trying to attack the messenger but it just won't work.

Look back over the last three or four years and there is no denying that a certain group are committing murders at a rate far exceeding their percentage of the population.


So to you I would say, swing and a miss.


..you accuse lefties of being politically correct, but you are an offender as well..cmon "certain group" ? grow a spine ,come right out and say it..oh i can say it..blacks are committing murders at a rate far exceeding their percentage of the population....

 

[LancsLad]

Effete you say????

One trick pony????


Not bloody likely. Looking at the TPS web site and seeing the list of all those scum, including a TPS officer ,picked up disgusts me and I would penalize them then ship them back to the point of origin as well.

The thing is my thread topic is homicides and these guys were drugs.

You can try and divert attention all you want from the very obvious facts by trying to attack the messenger but it just won't work.

Look back over the last three or four years and there is no denying that a certain group are committing murders at a rate far exceeding their percentage of the population.


So to you I would say, swing and a miss.


..you accuse lefties of being politically correct, but you are an offender as well..cmon "certain group" ? grow a spine ,come right out and say it..oh i can say it..blacks are committing murders at a rate far exceeding their percentage of the population....

Whats your prejudice basis then if you naturally "assume" that I was making a reference to blacks, you are the one that said it, I as talking about young males, but now that you mention it....Hmmmm.



Batter is outa there....

 

[lenharper]

I finally get it -- after reading all those hundreds of posts where Lance has wanted to turn his enfield on arabs, indians and gangbangers I was wrong -- he doesn't hate the french or any of the other ethnic group he routinely slags -- he just don't like young men...

... not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[LancsLad]

I finally get it -- after reading all those hundreds of posts where Lance has wanted to turn his enfield on arabs, indians and gangbangers I was wrong -- he doesn't hate the french or any of the other ethnic group he routinely slags -- he just don't like young men...

... not that there's anything wrong with that.

Partly right, I still feel the same way about those annoyances and believe that an Enfield could help the situation but in this SPECIFIC case I was very shocked to see twobigo's blatant prejudices show thru. Clearly the Toronto homicide problem is mainly due to male youth. He does make a point though, perhaps I was being to general in my grouping.

 

[C Dick]

I found the case of the 16-year-old killer in Scarborough interesting, in terms of the circumstances. It appears the the two victims had gone to a house where they knew there was cocaine, intending to rob it. The 16-year-old was in the house, presumably with the consent of the residents. When the robbers arrived, the 16-year-old shot them. If this was indeed the case, I would consider such an activity somewhat justified, in that I think that people should have a right to defend their homes. Presumably the robbers would have been willing to hurt the occupants, if they were typical cocaine seeking home invaders. On the other hand, the gun was presumably illegal, and it appears that one of the victims was chased out and shot while attempting to escape, so some punishment still seems appropriate.

 

[twobigo]

Whats your prejudice basis then if you naturally "assume" that I was making a reference to blacks, you are the one that said it, I as talking about young males, but now that you mention it....Hmmmm.



Batter is outa there....

yep..you are a dick

 

[LancsLad]

yep..you are a dick

And you love dick so it all comes together nicely.




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