Tony Dungy Retiring

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A very good coach, but an even better man has decided to call it quits.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80e1178c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

I wonder who will fill this vacancy, there are many candidates available. Steve Spagnolo, Rex Ryan, etc. I think Lezlie Frazier would be an excellent fit though. There is a good lineage of Minnesota DCs turned head coaches, (Dungy, Tomlin). Mike Martz I believe was let go from SF recently, he would seem like a perfect fit for that offense. Problem with Martz though is that he might be too much of a pass-happy OC.
 

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ckupets04 said:
A very good coach, but an even better man has decided to call it quits.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80e1178c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

I wonder who will fill this vacancy, there are many candidates available. Steve Spagnolo, Rex Ryan, etc. I think Lezlie Frazier would be an excellent fit though. There is a good lineage of Minnesota DCs turned head coaches, (Dungy, Tomlin). Mike Martz I believe was let go from SF recently, he would seem like a perfect fit for that offense. Problem with Martz though is that he might be too much of a pass-happy OC.

I read that they have replaced him with Jim Caldwell, the associate head coach, and QBs coach. They had made the plan for him to take over for when Dungy decided to retire.
 

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Shanahan is a very good offensive mind but if you look at his teams in Denver, they always employed that Alex Gibbs zone-blocking and the QBs were always mobile QBs and roll-outs and play-action and the running game were always components of his offense. Indy's offense is a bit different than that but I think Shanhan could certainly make the adjustment and coach that type of offense.
 

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Dungy

A class Coach and human being.He wil be missed in the NFL Hopefully he will become a Broadcaster and replace JIMMY JOHNSON!!!!!:)
 

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jake_cdn said:
I also heard that Caldwell was going to be the winner in fact I remember this year that it was announced that he would be named if and when Dungy decided to retire.

Shanahan needs a team that allow him total control and that is not the Colts.
jake_cdn, you are correct, Jim Caldwell will be the new head coach of the Colts. I guess its easier to keep it in house as opposed to going outside the franchise.
 

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jake_cdn said:
The only problem with hiring a head coach from a major college is that the coach may have to get used to playing ball in front of less people and for less money in the NFL. ;)
...in a tongue in cheek sort of way.

More seriously, college coaches all most always have problems for the following reasons

1) They have no appreciation of how hard NFL coaches have to work (see Steve Spurrier )

2) They can't adjust to not having absolute control over every aspect of the football operation. A top notch college football coach answers to NO ONE...not the AD...not even the University President...if he consistently wins...all but the VERY BEST and longest tenured NFL coaches have to answer to a GM...and they ALL have to answer to the owner.

3) They aren't as good a coach as they think they are...versus being a very good recruiter (you don't have the talent disparity in the NFL that you do on the college level...so you can't hide being a mediocre coach behind having great talent.

4) They have no idea how to motivate men without having total control over their lives. A college coach OWNS his players...even the BEST players know they coach could break them in a second and ruin any future NFL career. The better....not even the best, just the top 25%...of NFL players make more than their coach, have been with the team longer than their coach...and are more valuable to the franchise than the coach. So...you can't motivate a man like that playing "my dick is bigger than yours" games...he has to BELIEVE you are right, and that you know something that can get him what he wants (a winning football team, and eventually a shot at the Super Bowl)
 

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MLAM said:
...in a tongue in cheek sort of way.

More seriously, college coaches all most always have problems for the following reasons

1) They have no appreciation of how hard NFL coaches have to work (see Steve Spurrier )

2) They can't adjust to not having absolute control over every aspect of the football operation. A top notch college football coach answers to NO ONE...not the AD...not even the University President...if he consistently wins...all but the VERY BEST and longest tenured NFL coaches have to answer to a GM...and they ALL have to answer to the owner.

3) They aren't as good a coach as they think they are...versus being a very good recruiter (you don't have the talent disparity in the NFL that you do on the college level...so you can't hide being a mediocre coach behind having great talent.

4) They have no idea how to motivate men without having total control over their lives. A college coach OWNS his players...even the BEST players know they coach could break them in a second and ruin any future NFL career. The better....not even the best, just the top 25%...of NFL players make more than their coach, have been with the team longer than their coach...and are more valuable to the franchise than the coach. So...you can't motivate a man like that playing "my dick is bigger than yours" games...he has to BELIEVE you are right, and that you know something that can get him what he wants (a winning football team, and eventually a shot at the Super Bowl)
I am a Falcons fan. TWO WORDS. BOBBY PETRINO!!! I hope the Falcons never again hire a college coach. Some of these guys can coach boys but not men. Petrino was one of them, he didnt know how to deal with men and he treated the players like they were in elementary school with all his stupid rules. I would be surprised if Petrino had a conversation with any Falcons player last year that wasnt about football that lasted longer than 5 minutes. The lines of communication between head coach and players were not there and moreoever every single player said that football was not fun anymore. And last but not least, Petrino leaving the team like a burglar in the night before the season even ended. Nice. A guy that preached to his team "finish", couldnt even finish the season. Class act all the way Petrino. I hope Arkansas is happy with their "man" if you can call him a man.
 

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thick1 said:
Should've won 2 SuperBowls, Damn that Vanderjagt!!!!
Dont forget , it wasnt only the "idiot-kicker" Vanderjagt that prevented them from keeping the dream alive that year. It was also Ben Roethlisberger making arguably the 2nd biggest tackle in NFL history on Nick Harper (Mike Jones obviously making the biggest tackle). I am neither a Colts fan or a Steelers fan but lets also remember that the Steelers were definitely robbed on the Polamalu INT in that game. Officials ruled it an incomplete pass, and clearly it should have been ruled an INT, a fumble, and a fumble recovery, not an incomplete pass. For once I agreed with Joey Porter, the officials tried to steal that game from the Steelers. But the Steelers stole it back. Ironic how arguably the most important play of Ben Roethlisberger's career was a defensive play.
 
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