Tipping

[shinyam]

Hi, I am kind of new to this "hobby" as many of you call it.

I need to know how much I should tip, and when.

For example, for very good service, is 15% ok? (That would be a whopping 45 dollar tip for a 300 dollar session).

Also, should I tip before or after? I get the feeling that if I tip before, the girl will won't do her best to satisfy you, since she has no incentive. But if you pay later, she will try to satisfy you for a good tip.

I need to know what everyone thinks. Thanks!

By the way, I will not tip for lousy service.

 

[incognito]

Tip AFTER the session. You don't tip your waiter before you get served do ya? And if yo will tip, tip accordingly. I for one do not make loads of money so tipping after dishing out 250-300 bucks is too much. Call me cheap but I simply can't go over my budget.
Hope this helps.

Incognito

 

[shinyam]

Thanks, Incognito. I, too, am not pulling in that much. I guess people will say that if you can't afford to tip, then you shouldn't be calling an escort in the first place, but I think 200-300 dollars an hour is an exorbitant figure. If an escort is making that much money, that extra 30 or 40 bucks will probably be worth a lot more to us then her.

 

[Back Burner]

Here's my policy.......................don't tip

 

[BoxHunter]

Just a thought...if you tip, your SP is likely to remember you better next time and perhaps you'll be recieved with even more kindness next time, exactly the same as tipping your friendly neighbourhood bartender. Personally, I don't act different with my clients (although tips are greatly appreciated) but I know girls that operate exactly in relation to the amount of the tip recieved.

 

[midLifeCrisis]

Link!

Tipping..before or after

 

[shinyam]

I think that after reading all the posts from the above link, the consensus is:

1)Tip after for a job well done, never before.
2)Independant escorts should not be tipped as much as agency escorts, as they keep 100% of the fee.


It seems a lot of people don't tip unless the service is very good, which is understandable.

 

[RemyMartin]

I think we should not tip since they made money than most of us, TAX FREE.

 

[oldjones]

IMHO the only time you should feel compelled to tip is when you know the tips are the worker's principle source of income. Restaurant staff, cabbies and such. And it is always voluntary, even then. IF whoever you're buying the service from names/suggests an amount, that's their fee.

 

[sweet guy]

I tip according to the rules of the game, like 10% for lunch and dinner at mom and dad restaurants, 15% for dining out at cozy restaurants...in cash even if you pay by credit card.

For tipping SP, I am an ass since I never tip for my first time and/or the service is rush, lousy and the SP is mean.

I may tip the first time only when she did an exceptional duty call for this demanding client, so demanding that as a "civilian" woman she may probably bitchslap me for my "perverted" request or doesn't even want to entertain me.

Plus I want to know how consistent the SP in question can provide after a couple of additional visits without any tips.

Maybe I can't tell whether she is a money grabber if she acts really well all the time. But the chance will be she can't "set up the front" for too long if she really doesn't like you and it doesn't matter how generous you tip her.

I only tip the SP when her service is exquisite, consistent and exceptional and I want to be her regular client. Only then I will tip her throughtfully to show my appreciation to her not as SP, but as good "friend/courtesan/companion". And I also want to make her more than just happy .

BTW, NEVER tip before the action. That will backfired.

 

[Dani]

When I was an escort I was always pleasantly surprised when I received a tip. I felt that I was charging a reasonably high rate as it was and I thought that to expect a tip on top of that was somewhat arrogant and I never expected one. The clients that did leave a tip certainly stuck out in my mind but it was not the be all to end all.

Dani(thank you to those who did leave a tip!!)

 

[BoxHunter]

Dani definately said it best - and Remy if an illegal alien was working in a restaurant under the table, I bet you would still tip the person even though he might be aquiring tax-free money. And BTW, many more girls in the business claim taxes than you think (otherwise we couldn't own houses and cars).

 

[healer677]

Tipping should always be voluntary if you feel the service is adequate or above that. You should never be compelled to tip, specially if the service is lousy.
And always tip after - anything before is a fee.

 

[RemyMartin]

[ And BTW, many more girls in the business claim taxes than you think (otherwise we couldn't own houses and cars). [/B]

I don't think so.

 

[homonger]

I thought oldjones' comments made a lot of sense. I tend to tip sp's when I feel she has given me something a little extra. If she does things I like, I tip. The more things she does that I like, the bigger the tip. If not, no tip, it's as simple as that. What I don't like is when sp's ask for more for certain services... such a request usually negates any chances for a tip. I also usually tip the ee sp's because I don't think they get to keep much of their fee and their service is usually exceptional. However, this may be naive of me, because for all I know, they have to hand over their tips as well.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

Tipping is a disgrace.

You tip minimum wage service workers, not high paid professionals like escorts are.

Your reward for the SP should be your a repeat client. They should always give good service just like any professional not for a tip.

I have never tipped and will never tip. A fixed fee like for nude-reverse at a MP is different, it isn't a tip but a fee. Tipping is totally silly when the escort may often be making more than the customer.

You don't tip your lawyer, doctor, or any other professional, why in the world would you tip a highly paid hundreds of dollar an hour escort!

There may be two exceptions

1) The insecure client that feels the need to tip to impress and fell big.

2) The wealthy customer that has more funds than he can ever use and can afford not to be a good steward of his financial wealth.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

I think we should not tip since they made money than most of us, TAX FREE.

No tips are fully taxable just like any other fee.

If you want to commit tax fraud by not reporting tips, that is your immoral choice. But tips are fully taxable.

 

[homonger]

Tipping is a disgrace.

Tipping is totally silly when the escort may often be making more than the customer.

Gee, Dave, a disgrace? Tipping an sp might be silly, misguided, and maybe even inappropriate, but a disgrace?

I do agree with your other point, however. If money is tight, and you are already stretching yourself to see an sp in the first place, you really shouldn't feel compelled to tip.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

OK maybe disgrace is too strong !

I use the term simply since it treats a sexworker professional the same as a minimum wage resturant worker or cabbie. I believe sexworkers should be treated as professionals and act like one. No professionals or most workers get tips.

In the U.S. we seem obsessed with tipping. It is just so silly to me again unless its a minimum wage type service worker.

It has nothing to do about affordabilty again in my view. It is about good financial stewardship, not just tossing money away and the idea of paying for a professional service and then tipping like to a minimum wage person.

Frankly I think resturants should just pay their workers more and raise prices. This would be far more fair than tipping in my view.

Tipping is not nearly as common in most of the rest of the world from what I understand. Canadians seem to have this tipping habit more like the U.S. than say Europe.

Since I'm back to Toronto starting June 29th for 8 days I don't want to many folks upset with my stance....

 

[shinyam]

I'm not sure that an escort who doesn't report her income, let alone her tips is committing anything "immoral".

If I were an escort, I wouldn't report my income to be taxed. Here's why:

Generally, I think, escorts can't stay in the business too long, because after a certain age, they can no longer make much money in the business. Having the government take a large chunk of your hard-earned money is not in the best interest of the escort.

It makes sense for escorts to try to make as much as they can while they can, and use their money to better their lives. It also would be wise of them to prepare themselves for a more stable profession with that money.

Some escorts will try to maximize the amount they make by requesting extra fees for certain services (basically "milking" the client as much as they can). Others will try to maximize their tips by perfoming great service. And others will try to maximize the amount they make by making their customers as happy as possible so that they will repeat. In all cases, the goal of the escort is to make as much money as possible.

Those who try to milk you are only using a tactic that will backfire, since in the long run, they will end up having less business because of less repeats. The exception, of course is if they don't plan to be in the business long, and just want to make as much as they can in a very short time. There will alway be naive clients who, temporarily blinded by their sexual needs, will agree to shell out another 50 bucks to have the escort take her clothes off (it's happened to me before).

Ultimately, I guess whether one tips or not is a matter of personal preference and bank account. I would condemn anyone who didn't tip a waittress who provided great service, but a john who doesn't tip an escort who makes more in an hour then they do in two days is not necessarily committing anything wrong.

Having said that, I still think that good service merits appreciation. And what the escort wants/needs the most is usually money, so a tip would be appropriate.

I was just curious to see how many people here tipped, how much, and whether it was before or after. Judging from the responses, I think 70% don't tip/believe in tipping. And those who do always do so at the end.