Time Wasting Texting?

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I was interested in an independent SP... Sent one text asking a couple of questions as the ad wasn't super-clear... She responded 30 minutes later. We exchanged one friendly/flirty texts each over the course of 10-15 minutes. In no way am I implying I'm booking tonight, but rather setting things up for an easy first visit tomorrow... She goes off that I'm a time waster, etc... Ughh...

I'm coming off a few bust 1-2 text exchanges with a few independent ladies and perplexed. I think it is reasonable to clarify things before booking.

Anyone else getting tired of shit? Lately, I have not been too excited about agency offerings (based on TERBite reviews). A 'regular' would be amazing.
 
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I was interested in an independent SP... Sent one text asking a couple of questions as the ad wasn't super-clear... She responded 30 minutes later. We exchanged one friendly/flirty texts each over the course of 10-15 minutes. In no way am I implying I'm booking tonight, but rather setting things up for an easy first visit tomorrow... She goes off that I'm a time waster, etc... Ughh...

I'm coming off a few bust 1-2 text exchanges with a few independent ladies and perplexed. I think it is reasonable to clarify things before booking.

Anyone else getting tired of shit? Lately, I have not been too excited about agency offerings (based on TERBite reviews). A 'regular' would be amazing.
I'm having same issue listen bro most ladies are completely JADED
 
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I think I need to approach the wife with a business proposition as only my Sex Life sucks in my life... We hire SPs each month to spice things up and actually do something. I don't care, I'll even hire a dude to keep things fair. The time and effort I'll gain back will reimburse me as I spend a lot of time trying to get fucked.
 

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I was interested in an independent SP... Sent one text asking a couple of questions as the ad wasn't super-clear... She responded 30 minutes later. We exchanged one friendly/flirty texts each over the course of 10-15 minutes. In no way am I implying I'm booking tonight, but rather setting things up for an easy first visit tomorrow... She goes off that I'm a time waster, etc... Ughh...

I'm coming off a few bust 1-2 text exchanges with a few independent ladies and perplexed. I think it is reasonable to clarify things before booking.

Anyone else getting tired of shit? Lately, I have not been too excited about agency offerings (based on TERBite reviews). A 'regular' would be amazing.
Possibly they are assuming that if you're satisfied with the questions they answer you will be ready to book, whether it be the same day or some firm booking in the next day or two.

And if their answers are not what you're looking for you should apologize for taking their time, but make it clear you won't be booking.

Otherwise they may think you're just a tire-kicker...
 

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What sucks is texting an SP to try and arrange something for a day the following weekend and they never answer right away or at least within 24hrs. You then move to plan B, and tentatively set something up only to finally get a response for plan A, who was your first and preferred choice, three days later saying she would be happy to set something up. Now you have to cancel with B and look like an idiot.

This happened fairly recently and plan A ended up cancelling the day before due to illness. It fuckin sucked as I had no time to book anything after that. And it sucks trying to connect with plan B again when you already gave her an excuse as to why you had to cancel.

Seriously, if they only respond in a more timely manner, I think you would have a much more satisfied client base.
 

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What sucks is texting an SP to try and arrange something for a day the following weekend and they never answer right away or at least within 24hrs. You then move to plan B, and tentatively set something up only to finally get a response for plan A, who was your first and preferred choice, three days later saying she would be happy to set something up. Now you have to cancel with B and look like an idiot.

This happened fairly recently and plan A ended up cancelling the day before due to illness. It fuckin sucked as I had no time to book anything after that. And it sucks trying to connect with plan B again when you already gave her an excuse as to why you had to cancel.

Seriously, if they only respond in a more timely manner, I think you would have a much more satisfied client base.
Why are you canceling B? Why are you not telling A that she took too long to book?

You see what it is like to be canceled on and how it makes you feel - so you do it to someone else???? That’s real nice of you.
 
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SPs have ZERO interest in flirting with you by text. They get dozens/hundreds of guys who waste their time just texting but never booking.

Text your question. Confirm if you're booking or not. And move on.
I have a no flirting rule. I will not flirt. I will ignore the message completely. Simply because of this reason.

I also won’t answer questions like what size are my nipples or other stupid baiting into sexting type questions? I don’t answer questions asking if I like a certain service. I will say if I provide it or not. I will say I enjoy any service I’m willing to provide but I will never say something like “I love daty” in a text exchange. I will keep it short and general.
 

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I was interested in an independent SP... Sent one text asking a couple of questions as the ad wasn't super-clear... She responded 30 minutes later. We exchanged one friendly/flirty texts each over the course of 10-15 minutes. In no way am I implying I'm booking tonight, but rather setting things up for an easy first visit tomorrow... She goes off that I'm a time waster, etc... Ughh...

I'm coming off a few bust 1-2 text exchanges with a few independent ladies and perplexed. I think it is reasonable to clarify things before booking.

Anyone else getting tired of shit? Lately, I have not been too excited about agency offerings (based on TERBite reviews). A 'regular' would be amazing.
Had that happen once with a highly reviewed Indy, I stopped trying to book her, there are just too many options out there. SP's try to psyche us out by conveying a seller's market. I believe it's a buyer's market. . .
 

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I was interested in an independent SP... Sent one text asking a couple of questions as the ad wasn't super-clear... She responded 30 minutes later. We exchanged one friendly/flirty texts each over the course of 10-15 minutes. In no way am I implying I'm booking tonight, but rather setting things up for an easy first visit tomorrow... She goes off that I'm a time waster, etc... Ughh...

I'm coming off a few bust 1-2 text exchanges with a few independent ladies and perplexed. I think it is reasonable to clarify things before booking.

Anyone else getting tired of shit? Lately, I have not been too excited about agency offerings (based on TERBite reviews). A 'regular' would be amazing.

I completely threw in the towel on LeoList,

You should see my reviews on the exchanges I've had with the few I tried to link up with. For starters, I didn't even get replies from many of them.

Then the last two I did get replies from, went like this:

First one right off the hop tells my I'm a time waster and on "some list" where I'm to be boycotted by all escorts..lol. I basically tell her she's full of shit and she should come create a profile on this site and see that I'm a well respected member...yada yada. I tell her I was looking to be a regular client so it's her loss if she's not even get to know me before accusing me of being a time waster and on some "boycott list". She then starts to sing a different tune as I guess I peaked her curiosity. Tell her I might be a good client I'm not even looking for full service. I'm actually looking for a massage and some smothering with the booty and that she can even keep her underwear on if she's uncomfortable with bare. Tell her that her rates aren't listed on her ad. Gets back to me and says, my rate is 300 per hour, but 500 per hour for you want. Okay, you'll do full service and give a guy a BJ for 300, but an extra 200 to rub my back and simply sit on face and keep your underwear on if you want to make you feel more comfortable. I basically replied back telling her she's a clown.

Next girl, text her with same thing. Her rates are listed so no need to ask. Tell her I'm looking to be a regular not even looking for service but will pay that rate obviously, and explain my mild fetish. Replies she's interested, then I don't hear back. This happens a few times as I would send a text like 3 or 4 days later saying "hey, you stopped replying so I figured you got busy, but if you ever change your mind, keep in mind I'm looking for something ongoing" would hear back from her saying she's interested then nothing again. Finally decide to drop it and move on. About week later I get text from her telling me she's interested and if I'm still looking to become a regular. So being a little flustered with the games I say "okay, but every time we're about to set something up I never hear back so I'm a little confused and want to get going on this". Guess what happens, never hear back for two days so send her finale text saying "I'm moving on, please don't text me regarding this anymore". She's sends a text giving me all the excuses as to why she kept disappearing. I reply "as I mentioned. I moving on PLEASE DO NOT TEXT ME ABOUT THIS AGAIN"...lol.

Those were just two of the examples. I fucking gave up man. I rather rub one out and keep my hard earned cash then chase someone down to take my money. You would think in they would realize just how money they're being offered in short period of work, especially hour in an economic climate that's this unstable should be a no brainer.

Anyway, I feel your frustration, and maybe in 3 or 4 months I might give it another shot, but for now I'm done as I can't keep putting this much energy into giving my money away...lol.
 

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SPs have ZERO interest in flirting with you by text. They get dozens/hundreds of guys who waste their time just texting but never booking.

Text your question. Confirm if you're booking or not. And move on.

I have to agree with this, but at the same time, they have to understand that your not just going say "can I book on this date and time confirm this right now"? They're getting absorbents amount of money once the date is booked, so I mean they have to exercise some patience and customer service skills. If it's this endless back and forth shit, I get it but especially when their ads are clear or they don't mention certain things.
 

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I have to agree with this, but at the same time, they have to understand that your not just going say "can I book on this date and time confirm this right now"? They're getting absorbents amount of money once the date is booked, so I mean they have to exercise some patience and customer service skills. If it's this endless back and forth shit, I get it but especially when their ads are clear or they don't mention certain things.
Ok but at the same time you have to understand that many guys ( I mean soooo many) book like that. They are ready to book right away. They don’t need questions answered. So you come across a time waster and I can see why. I get that you are not but I can see why some think you are.

Also Telling a girl you want a regular doesn’t matter. We hear that enough, we don’t bother listening anymore because a lot of times it is a bullshit poly to get cheaper rates. The whole “not looking for full service” smells like a rate lowering tactic as well. I’m not trying to piss you off but if you contacted me with those things, I wouldn’t bother either. I would tell you politely - not interested and have a nice day. I get you say you will pay the full amount and for you, knowing you here, I believe you but I wouldn’t if I didn’t know you and we were just texting each other, I wouldn’t believe it and would think you will show up with a different rate in hand to try and haggle on the spot.

Say “no bare IF your not comfortable”. I would say no right there. That to me reads as - I will do unsafe things” which leads to either pressure for me once you arrive to go bare or it means you have been unsafe with other escorts and I’m not willing to take the chance.

From your other post, boasting about review boards and reputation would get you a no from me as well. I get I just said it helped me trust you here but we have naturally developed this relationship online. Coming from a new guy just texting me, I would just move on. Sounds too much like boasting which comes across as arrogant to me and feels like bullying. Like “you better listen to me or I will post a bad review”. It comes across as a threat even if not said that way. Again text has no context so we can make our own and we will make a context that we hear more often. Talking about review boards like that usually comes with threats.

Lastly - I am immediately excited and attracted to the guy that reads my stuff. My site, my ads, etc. I have guys contact me and say a date and time they want but I will always confirm the rate and I do it by asking if they know the rate. 9/10 he does and I love it. This is my preferred way to book and will get a booking over another guy any time of day

So yeah / you know you’re a good guy but based on your communication - I can see how these girls reacted. I don’t get the 2-3 days of texting. I never text back if it has been longer then an hour since I received the text.

Raising the rate $200 / I bet was a “I don’t want to deal with this guy” type. Raise it so high that he says no or if he says yes - then at least it is worth it. That is just a guess though.


So there are a lot of thing you say that would just make me say no thanks. Again, it is others guys who have made it harder for you by the way they act. Then you come in - innocent and really trying, yet you are read like you are possibly one of the other types. Who would you take? An unsure possible undesirable client or a guy who knows when he wants to book, already know the info and is ready with cash in hand right now?

just some thoughts on the matter
Had that happen once with a highly reviewed Indy, I stopped trying to book her, there are just too many options out there. SP's try to psyche us out by conveying a seller's market. I believe it's a buyer's market. . .
I don’t want to piss of BBL again but it is not a buyers market. If it was you guys would not have so much trouble with communication. Women would want to book as many as possible. We don’t have to worry about that because the phone always ringings. If we don’t answer, it is because we have answered someone else.

I move on and pass on so many potential clients. If it was a buyers market / I wouldn’t be able to do that. There are some escorts who have to take every call but that is usually a pimped/drug addict/insert other none choice thing here. It is not because it is a buyers market.
 
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I'm of a split mind on this. If the client has questions, I think it's reasonable for him to ask them before booking. I can understand an SP being annoyed if the answers to those questions are on her website or her ad though.
But when it comes to flirtatious texts, particularly for a new client, I can also see why SPs would consider that a waste of time. For every chain of texts, how often does it translate into a booking? I have to imagine it's a low percentage.
 

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I'm of a split mind on this. If the client has questions, I think it's reasonable for him to ask them before booking. I can understand an SP being annoyed if the answers to those questions are on her website or her ad though.
But when it comes to flirtatious texts, particularly for a new client, I can also see why SPs would consider that a waste of time. For every chain of texts, how often does it translate into a booking? I have to imagine it's a low percentage.
Depends on where the ad is placed. And here is the thing, the girl can not have her rate on her ad - Like BBL said but that could be that one ad that he saw. Maybe she has them on her site or on another ad somewhere. She may not know what ad he is seeing and when he says there is no ad, she can be questioning and thinking he is just not reading.

But I get answering questions - I answer questions that are in my ad all the time. It is just a part of the business. In my opinion. Others - they don’t care. I am a firm believer in networking and leaving off an interaction on a positive note - if I can. Even in this business. I can’t help it. It just translates from my mainstream business. Sometimes you can’t though and you just move one.

But other ladies will just not bother with even that. Not even a “have a nice day” Why? Because the phone always rings.
 

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Ok but at the same time you have to understand that many guys ( I mean soooo many) book like that. They are ready to book right away. They don’t need questions answered. So you come across a time waster and I can see why. I get that you are not but I can see why some think you are.

Also Telling a girl you want a regular doesn’t matter. We hear that enough, we don’t bother listening anymore because a lot of times it is a bullshit poly to get cheaper rates. The whole “not looking for full service” smells like a rate lowering tactic as well. I’m not trying to piss you off but if you contacted me with those things, I wouldn’t bother either. I would tell you politely - not interested and have a nice day. I get you say you will pay the full amount and for you, knowing you here, I believe you but I wouldn’t if I didn’t know you and we were just texting each other, I wouldn’t believe it and would think you will show up with a different rate in hand to try and haggle on the spot.

Say “no bare IF your not comfortable”. I would say no right there. That to me reads as - I will do unsafe things” which leads to either pressure for me once you arrive to go bare or it means you have been unsafe with other escorts and I’m not willing to take the chance.

From your other post, boasting about review boards and reputation would get you a no from me as well. I get I just said it helped me trust you here but we have naturally developed this relationship online. Coming from a new guy just texting me, I would just move on. Sounds too much like boasting which comes across as arrogant to me and feels like bullying. Like “you better listen to me or I will post a bad review”. It comes across as a threat even if not said that way. Again text has no context so we can make our own and we will make a context that we hear more often. Talking about review boards like that usually comes with threats.

Lastly - I am immediately excited and attracted to the guy that reads my stuff. My site, my ads, etc. I have guys contact me and say a date and time they want but I will always confirm the rate and I do it by asking if they know the rate. 9/10 he does and I love it. This is my preferred way to book and will get a booking over another guy any time of day

So yeah / you know you’re a good guy but based on your communication - I can see how these girls reacted. I don’t get the 2-3 days of texting. I never text back if it has been longer then an hour since I received the text.

Raising the rate $200 / I bet was a “I don’t want to deal with this guy” type. Raise it so high that he says no or if he says yes - then at least it is worth it. That is just a guess though.


So there are a lot of thing you say that would just make me say no thanks. Again, it is others guys who have made it harder for you by the way they act. Then you come in - innocent and really trying, yet you are read like you are possibly one of the other types. Who would you take? An unsure possible undesirable client or a guy who knows when he wants to book, already know the info and is ready with cash in hand right now?

just some thoughts on the matter

I don’t want to piss of BBL again but it is not a buyers market. If it was you guys would not have so much trouble with communication. Women would want to book as many as possible. We don’t have to worry about that because the phone always ringings. If we don’t answer, it is because we have answered someone else.

I move on and pass on so many potential clients. If it was a buyers market / I wouldn’t be able to do that. There are some escorts who have to take every call but that is usually a pimped/drug addict/insert other none choice thing here. It is not because it is a buyers market.
No...raising the rate by $200.00 was more of an opportunistic strategy. She saw the word "fetish" and like many SP's they $$$ in their eyes. Instead of thinking about it logically and saying "that's even less mileage then full service and he's willing to pay my full service rate".

Second, you might one day as an experiment pretend your a guy and contact SP's on LL and see what a fucking nightmare it is. Maybe "sooooooo many guys book like that" but shouldn't be a license to act like there's no need to answers fairly normal questions from potential clients. I mean it's ultimately up to them as it's their business, but why even bother advertising if your not looking to bring on new clients.

Your entitled to enterpret my text how you want, but I thinks it's pretty ridiculous to think I'm coming across as some low baller time waster for asking rates (only when they're not listed in the ad) and trying to explain I'm not a time waster as Im not into seeing multiple SP's just looking for that I trust and click with. I wasn't boasting about review boards. I basically said "hey, saw your ad on LL and I'm interested in becoming a regular client as I have a certain fetish just looking for SP that can provide so I can keep coming back. It's a pretty mild so here's what I'm looking for
". She came right out the gate and called me a time waster and that I'm on some sort of "black list". Which was complete bull shit and I don't even know why she said it unless she thought recognized my number something.

Listen, at the end of the day, LL is rife with bottom feeding low scammers. Are you really this surprised these are the types of interactions we have with the women on LL???

And one more time...you never pissed me off...lol. I wasn't hot and bothered. Literally at this stuff.
 
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