Esco! said:BTW guys, bin laden said in his last tape that we'll get hit soon with more terror.
Anyone have any idea who or what may be next???
If he wants to hit us hard in Canada, it'll be at a hockey game or strip joint
Esco! said:BTW guys, bin laden said in his last tape that we'll get hit soon with more terror.
Anyone have any idea who or what may be next???
Stop thinking like an American. It’s Islam or dhimmitude, those are your only choices. The Jihadists don’t give a rat’s ass about money. HELLO MCFLY, THEY BLOW THEMSELVES UP IN THE NAME OF ALLAH!DonQuixote said:Are these religious wars or economic issues?
My guess is that money trumps religion every time.
I think DQ is essentially correct, arclighter. Let me ask you, which do you believe is a greater motivator to get people to riot or revolt. Their inherent dissatisfaction with their lot in life, or religious faith?arclighter said:Stop thinking like an American. It’s Islam or dhimmitude, those are your only choices. The Jihadists don’t give a rat’s ass about money. HELLO MCFLY, THEY BLOW THEMSELVES UP IN THE NAME OF ALLAH!
You might want to familiarize yourself with the Last Revelation of Muhammad, and tell me if you still think it is all about the Benjamins.
There are a lot of poor Catholics in the world, and I don't see them rioting at the same clip as the Muslims. The funny thing is you think these poor ignorant religious fanatics are so complex that their explicit statements as to why they are killing and rioting are not to be believed. I believe them at their word.Asterix said:I think DQ is essentially correct, arclighter. Let me ask you, which do you believe is a greater motivator to get people to riot or revolt. Their inherent dissatisfaction with their lot in life, or religious faith?
All of the South American countries along with Mexico contain masses of poor Catholics in the midst of concentrated wealth. And Nigeria isn't in the "midst of incredible wealth".DonQuixote said:Discontent is when the masses are in servitude amongst
mass wealth. There are poor Catholics in abundance. But,
few are in the midst of such incredible wealth as are those
in the Mideast. The disparity between the elite and the masses
is but one spark to turn into a conflageration.
You didn't answer my question. I was speaking not only of current events, but to the reason why people throughout history have revolted or threatened others. You yourself have referred to their failure to achieve politically and economically. Religion has more of the effect of throwing gasoline on a fire.arclighter said:There are a lot of poor Catholics in the world, and I don't see them rioting at the same clip as the Muslims. The funny thing is you think these poor ignorant religious fanatics are so complex that their explicit statements as to why they are killing and rioting are not to be believed. I believe them at their word.
I love Ghenghis Khan.scroll99 said:1. Crusaders killed more than half million Muslims during and after occupying Jerusalem.
2. Ganges Khan and his forces killed more than a million Muslims during the occupation of Iraq and neighboring areas.
3. Thousands of Muslims were killed / forced to change religion by Spanish Crusaders in South America
4. More than a million Muslims were killed / displaced by Spanish and other European extremists during the rebellion against the Ottoman Empire.
5. More than 3 million Muslims were killed / displaced by the European colonial powers during and after the occupation of Muslim countries after World War I and II.
6. More than 5 million Muslims were killed / displaced by Tsars of Russia
7. More than a million Muslims were killed / displaced by Communist Government of Russia
8. More than 1.5 million Muslims have been killed in China, Cambodia, Vietnam, and other Far East countries since the world war II
9. More than half million Muslims have been killed / displaced in Burma since World War II
10. More than half million Muslims have been killed in India and Kashmir since 1947
11. More than half million Muslims were killed by Serbs and Croats in Bosnia during early 90s.
12. More than 100,000 Muslims were killed in Kosovo and Albania during mid 90s.
13. More than 5 million Muslims have been killed / displaced in Palestine since 1948
14. More than 5 million Muslims were killed / displaced by the Russian occupation of Afghanistan
15. More than one million Muslims children died from malnutrition in Iraq during the US/UN embargo on Iraq during 1990s.
16. Thousands of Muslims have been killed by the secular governments in Muslim countries, backed by the Western Governments, since the independence from the colonial powers.
17. Currently, hundreds of innocent civilians have been killed by the American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan
http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.com/holocausts.htm
Compare above with how many Muslims extremists have killed ?
Who have been more destructive so far for the humanity ?
That's why European Poll said a year back with vast majority that Bush is more dangerous then Bin Laden to the world peace
I thought he was hitting the mushrooms again.maxweber said:I assumne you're some sort of overwrought adolescent, hyped up on propaganda and macho. Whoever you are, what you're talking about is not an end to talk--but to thought.
MW
Well thats one way to get rid of those crappy Leafsstang said:If he wants to hit us hard in Canada, it'll be at a hockey game
http://islam.about.com/od/hajj/f/mecca.htmislandman4567 said:3. can someone tell me if its true that only muslims are allowed to go to mecca(this is what I heard , so if you know more , please enlighten me). if so , I find that very discriminatory, and I'm sure we'd get some rioting and bombing if we even mentioned that here.
scroll99 said:http://islam.about.com/od/hajj/f/mecca.htm
Why are only Muslims allowed to visit the holy city of Mecca, Saudi Arabia?
These are cities of great importance in Islamic tradition -- centers of pilgrimage and prayer, sacred places where Muslims are free from the distractions of daily life. The ban on non-Muslim visitors is mentioned in the Qur’an as follows: "Oh you who believe! Truly the idolaters are unclean; so let them not, after this year, approach the Sacred Mosque...." (9:28). This verse specifically refers to the Grand Mosque in Mecca; later scholars have included Madinah in this ruling as well.
There are some Islamic scholars who would permit exceptions to this general rule, for trade purposes or for people who are under treaty permission. There is also some debate about the exact area and borders of the restricted area(s). The government of Saudi Arabia, which controls access to the holy sites, has decided upon a strict ban on both cities in their entirety.
Restricting access to Mecca and Madinah is intended to provide a place of peace and refuge for Muslim believers and preserve the sanctity of the holy cities.
At this time, millions of Muslims visit the cities each year, and additional tourist traffic would simply add to the congestion and detract from the spirituality of the pilgrimage visit.
i think i'd comment on his mustache.Mr. Magic said:How would you have dealt with Hitler?