Thoughts on this enquiry response?

[Jasmina]

You get it, they are also willfully overlooking the part of the conversation that included the gentleman straight out saying he had no intent to book; so, with the car dealer ananolgy I am operating under that same circumstance, if a guy comes in (no matter what he is dressed like) and says, "Hey, I am going to just look, no intent to buy, please let me waste your time by making you follow along and listen to me compliment you on your selection of vehicles" that dealer is gunna be pretty short with him. Most likely, that said dealer would straight up call security over to kick him tf out.

What this tells me is that these dudes above have probably never worked retail or service industry in their life, or were incredibly inept at it. Which is why they are making the "personal" attack of accusing me at being a bad business person (projection). If only they knew...

I think the argument they are going with is that you can't infer intent from one interaction or what someone looks like walking into a car dealership.
This is true in that any such judgment will never be 100% accurate.
What they aren't getting is that after you have had thousands of these kinds of interactions, you get very good at figuring out intent quickly. If this provider is right 90% of the time on her read, then she is probably still better off shutting this guy down now, even if there is that 10% chance he would have become a good customer.

It seems that what is going on here is lots of the guys are seeing themselves as that group where she would have gotten it wrong, and lots of the providers view themselves as someone who needs a strategy for cutting off time wasters and even if this isn't the exact line they would draw, they understand why the line is being drawn in the first place.

 

[JackBurton]

No baby girl, YOU don't get it. A service performer, especially sex-workers, needs to understand the goal is to shift the income/service curve. Your goal is to INCREASE total Income while DECREASE total time performing, to retain longevity. And the only way to do that is to promote yourself to be desired. The guy sent a compliment, which means he spent however hrs check you out, horny as hell, wanting your attention to engage... this is the perfect time to plant a desire and want or even need to fuck. He didnt do that just to waste your time, he did it because he was horny but can't commit! He's looking for a reason to shell out $XXX amount of money and he even reached out to you to give him that affirmation!! You just gonna let him slide? You can't close him? You can't even turn that into a "fuck it shes worth a try!!"? He's screaming at you to take his money today or some other time, but you manage to have him rather burn the money than to give it to you.... The law of attraction tells us, every desire will find a way to fruiation, just that desire can be altered and realized by someone else.

With your business model you'd be spending 60% time performing and 40% buying ads. When the ration should be 80% time engaging and interact with your audience and 10% performing, but getting higher income than 60%.

USE you head to make money, dont just Give head for money.

ALWAYS.
BE.
CLOSING.

It’s amazing in this day and age that people can’t add 2+2 and get 4.

It was the perfect opportunity to turn it not only into a sale but if she had played it right he could have become a regular.

He deserves a service provider that will treat him better than that.

 

[TeeJay]

I did not say a thing about appearance. You seem to be projecting something here?

Sure thing way to fall back

For the multitude hanging on your every word please define how you can tell someone is a "broke dude" if not judging him on appearance

The majority of this thread is already laughing at your words, give us another gem

You get it, they are also willfully overlooking the part of the conversation that included the gentleman straight out saying he had no intent to book; so, with the car dealer ananolgy I am operating under that same circumstance, if a guy comes in (no matter what he is dressed like) and says, "Hey, I am going to just look, no intent to buy, please let me waste your time by making you follow along and listen to me compliment you on your selection of vehicles" that dealer is gunna be pretty short with him. Most likely, that said dealer would straight up call security over to kick him tf out.

So in addition to being a poor business person you also have never bought a new car eh?

Go walk into a car dealership tomorrow and tell reception you don't need a salesperson as you are "just looking"
The majority of them will offer you a drink and say call them if you had any questions

(And on the higher end, the majority of them will even offer a test drive; so you pretty much just keep digging that hole for yourself lol)

 

[Jasmina]

"Just looking" isn't the same as "I will not be buying". HUGE difference.

You are trying to change the anaology altogether to fit your narrative. In your case below you complete bypass the sales person altogether. This is not the case in the situation we are equating this too.

As pointed out in my comment previously, this is not akin to approaching the girl at the desk and saying, "Just looking", this is akin to approaching the floor salesman and saying, "I am not buying I just want to waste your time complimenting you on the cars".

Totally different scenario from the one you are trying to draw.

Sure thing way to fall back

For the multitude hanging on your every word please define how you can tell someone is a "broke dude" if not judging him on appearance

The majority of this thread is already laughing at your words, give us another gem



So in addition to being a poor business person you also have never bought a new car eh?

Go walk into a car dealership tomorrow and tell reception you don't need a salesperson as you are "just looking"
The majority of them will offer you a drink and say call them if you had any questions

(And on the higher end, the majority of them will even offer a test drive; so you pretty much just keep digging that hole for yourself lol)

 

[LC18]

I think we are kind of forgetting the fact that this man didn't contact her to inquire on whether she did XYZ, he contacted her on her business phone to tell her she's pretty. It is a waste of time if you're not planning on booking and if you are planning on booking please go straight to the point and say so.

Some exemples: - You are really pretty, I would like to know if you're available on [insert date].
- I saw your ad and you're beautiful, would you be available on [insert date] by any chance?
- I would like to see you on [insert date] if you are available. Btw you are gorgeous.

 

[Leimonis]

ALWAYS.
BE.
CLOSING.

It’s amazing in this day and age that people can’t add 2+2 and get 4.

It was the perfect opportunity to turn it not only into a sale but if she had played it right he could have become a regular.

He deserves a service provider that will treat him better than that.

you seem to be really good at it. May I ask how much time would you consider to be reasonable to spend on signing up this potential customer who already expressed that he doesn't plan to become one? Like how long a goddamn girl is supposed to work in order to book a 1 hr date with someone who possibly is complimenting out of his mother's basement with $50 to his name?

 

[TeeJay]

"Just looking" isn't the same as "I will not be buying". HUGE difference.

Which is exactly what the original post said
A newb said she was hot
Instead of actually trying to get him to commit she basically told him to fuck off lol

Even if he was on the fence her laughable overreaction would have driven all but the most die hard fans away

You are trying to change the anaology altogether to fit your narrative. In your case below you complete bypass the sales person altogether. This is not the case in the situation we are equating this too.

lol what???

It was YOUR analogy
NOT MINE

You claimed (quoted above)
""Hey, I am going to just look, no intent to buy, please let me waste your time by making you follow along and listen to me compliment you on your selection of vehicles" that dealer is gunna be pretty short with him. Most likely, that said dealer would straight up call security over to kick him tf out."

I told you this is absolute and utter nonsense
I further told you to walk into a car dealership and advise them you had no intention to buy and were just looking at that some dealers will even go the extra mile and ask if you want to test drive
Even with no chance of commission
The receptionist CAN NOT give you keys nor answer any questions about the car
This is what sales people do, even when there is no potential sale on the table

There is no reason to "bypass the sales person" as most sales people worth their salt KNOW that if you are "just looking" if you have a decent experience you may return

Which is also why the hooker is dumb. She not only drove away the newb, but by ranting and posting on social media she has driven away hundreds of potential clients who want nothing to do with her drama

 

[jimchiu]

Hmmm, seems to be a trend of dudes completely missing my point. I said nothing about appearance. We are talking about intent.

And How do you know what is their intentions are? He said "Not at this stage". Honestly tell me this, how the hell can you infer to his intent of not wanting?

 

[jimchiu]

I think the argument they are going with is that you can't infer intent from one interaction or what someone looks like walking into a car dealership.
This is true in that any such judgment will never be 100% accurate.
What they aren't getting is that after you have had thousands of these kinds of interactions, you get very good at figuring out intent quickly. If this provider is right 90% of the time on her read, then she is probably still better off shutting this guy down now, even if there is that 10% chance he would have become a good customer.

It seems that what is going on here is lots of the guys are seeing themselves as that group where she would have gotten it wrong, and lots of the providers view themselves as someone who needs a strategy for cutting off time wasters and even if this isn't the exact line they would draw, they understand why the line is being drawn in the first place.

Or maybe she's getting 90% non-bookings because most people are turned off by her attitute, therefore it'd be a confirmation bias. You can't argue intent because in sales you'd learn every lead is a new start, like in stats it is not prior-dependent.

I don't see myself as the other 10% percent because I would have been with the 90% non-booking after her initial response. Instead of "is this a booking inquiry?" She could have said "bet you going to like what's not on the photos". She turned a sales opportunity into a confrontation and there is no other way around it... anyone can't see that and learn from it is just not a good sales.

 

[jimchiu]

"Just looking" isn't the same as "I will not be buying". HUGE difference.

You are trying to change the anaology altogether to fit your narrative. In your case below you complete bypass the sales person altogether. This is not the case in the situation we are equating this too.

As pointed out in my comment previously, this is not akin to approaching the girl at the desk and saying, "Just looking", this is akin to approaching the floor salesman and saying, "I am not buying I just want to waste your time complimenting you on the cars".

Totally different scenario from the one you are trying to draw.

I like you thats why I am spending my time telling you this...

Imagine going into a Benz dealership, someone comes up to you...
"Hi, what can I help you with today?"

"Oh nothing, it's really nice car I just want to take a look at it."

"Oh it's a nice car aint it? Does looking at the car pays my bills? Why are you wasting my time when you're just looking at it? Can't you look at it from outside? Nooooo... but you have to stoke inside, with you little compliment like it's gonna pay my kid's tuition!!!"

This is what you guys sound like...

Plus, find the place where he said I don't want to book... he said "not at this stage". If you only sell to willing buyers then there be no need for sales. Problem is that you girls simplifies how money is earned and expect fast easy money. And before you start with me I've hired working girls in my business and none of them can last over a month before going back to work because they expect customers to cater to them and deliver their money instead of having to work for it!

 

[Jasmina]

I removed my comment because honestly, I don't have any interest in arguing this out anymore.
I've stated my opinion and I hold to it.
Peace and blessings.

 

[lomotil]

He tried to get off on her for free, she recognized it and offed him . He should try this on civilian ladies who are looking for other things besides solely money not on working girls. He should also learn that there is nothing colder than a whore’s heart especially if you waste her time and do not compensate her.

 

[rachel2016]

Funny thing is, almost everytime... actually no, every single fucking session, the girls would ask me about medical advise other wise they'd need to book a consultation and pay a fee for my educated response. The next time they'd ask me, I'll just tell them that "my shit aint free, knock off $300 for my fee and I'll even waive the $25 registration charge for you. And you can thank @rachel2016 On Terb for that response!"

You are a strange and angry little man lol what in the world do I have to do with you or your hypothetical medical advice

 

[mandrill]

And How do you know what is their intentions are? He said "Not at this stage". Honestly tell me this, how the hell can you infer to his intent of not wanting?
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He said "Compliment at this stage."

He could be a time waster, or someone who wanted a few seconds of chat to decide if he wanted to take the plunge.