This would be my Kinda Luck

$1 million lottery ticket unlucky for winner

BOSTON - The winner of a $1 million lottery scratch ticket may not be so lucky after all: He's a convicted bank robber who isn't supposed to gamble.

Timothy Elliott faces a Dec. 7 court hearing over whether he violated his probation when he bought the $10 ticket for the $800 Million Spectacular game at a supermarket in Hyannis.

Elliott was placed on five years' probation after pleading guilty in October 2006 to unarmed robbery for a January 2006 heist at a bank on Cape Cod.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22013756/?GT1=10547
 
I was reading that and its bizarre !

If he broke the conditions of his bail/probation then fine, let them deal with it legally .Put him in jail or whatever the law states.

Attempting to take his winnings is a joke and will not stand up in any court outside of Saudi Arabia or North Korea.

His right is to keep the money !
 
I guess the flip side though is that letting him keep it encourages anyone else who is under the same terms to gamble as well. Withholding it might result in a few other people who are not supposed to be playing realizing there is no point to play.

I don't know the details. If hew as explicitly told by a judge "do not gamble" and he was well aware of that, then I have no sympathy for him.

On the other hand, if this is some fine print in the terms of his release that he wasn't really all that aware of, and didn't know he was doing anything wrong, then he should get his wrist slapped, but he should keep the money.
 
No sir !

The money is his,

He broke bail, he does the time for that crime but he gets the moolah , I assure you.
 
Anderson said:
No sir !

The money is his,

He broke bail, he does the time for that crime but he gets the moolah, I assure you.

The judge might be a real prick and instead of jail time, give him a $1 million dollar fine! :mad:
 
Its the USA, nothing surprises me anymore. So I would not be surprise if they do try to stop him from getting it.

What he should have done was to give it to somebody he could trust-if he had a bother, sister, etc.
 
This reminds me of a lottery winner quite a few years ago (when they used to put their photos on the front page of the sun) and there was a black guy with a big wool cap pulled low, HUGE sunglasses on, and was looking down ducking the camera.

Well it turns out he was wanted on an immigration warrant was was subsequently arrested lol. No biggy, he was deported back to jamaica where his $2 Million here was worth $10 M there.....
 
tboy said:
This reminds me of a lottery winner quite a few years ago (when they used to put their photos on the front page of the sun) and there was a black guy with a big wool cap pulled low, HUGE sunglasses on, and was looking down ducking the camera.

Well it turns out he was wanted on an immigration warrant was was subsequently arrested lol. No biggy, he was deported back to jamaica where his $2 Million here was worth $10 M there.....
Actually his two million CDN two years ago would have been worth about $118 million Jamaican!:eek:
 
Anderson said:
No sir !

The money is his,

He broke bail, he does the time for that crime but he gets the moolah , I assure you.

Sorry dude but revoke his probation and give the money to charity.....he should be able to follow instructions
 
I wonder if gambling is illegal in Mass? If so, then the lottery isn't gambling (because it is legal) and he wouldn't be guilty of gambling.

IMO this is like when a criminal gets off on a technicality, they are convicting him of a technicality.
 
Anderson said:
His right is to keep the money !
scratch that. it is his lawyers' right.
 
the law says he can not gamble. he gambles and breaks the law. he breaks the law and makes money. does he get to keep it? hmmm.

how about this concept? is robbing a bank gambling? i would wager that it is.
 
hairyfucker said:
the law says he can not gamble. he gambles and breaks the law. he breaks the law and makes money. does he get to keep it? hmmm.

how about this concept? is robbing a bank gambling? i would wager that it is.

I dont' think the point here is whether he should profit from breaking the law, I think his case to keep the money would be about whether buying a lottery ticket is gambling.

I read up on the gambling laws in Mass. and I couldn't find anywhere that deemed the lottery as "gambling". They wrote about all other forms but not that.

IMO in comparison, jay walking is also "against the law" and if a parolee gets a ticket for jaywalking, should his parole be revoked?

In addition, it's not like he was caught in the back room of a chop shop playing high stakes texas hold em' with a bunch of gun runners....he bought a lottery ticket for christ's sake....
 
The lottery is legalized gambling. I believe that is how Massachusetts has defined it.

So the real question here is, was his parole based on illegal gambling, legal gambling or just gambling in general. If it is not defined, as I believe it probably is not, then his only chance is to argue the point that the real and intended conditions of his parole are to not break the law, i.e. illegal gambling, and thus since he did not break the law he should not be returned to jail or forfeit his winning.