this is wrong, we shouldn’t do this

[star003]

if you have not heard these words till now in your life from someone who is breathing heavy while saying it, yoo have definitely missed a lot in this life.
for those who have experienced this, do you still remember the time? how was it? did you stop or it got even more intense from there on? how many such instances can you recall?
lets see if there are common situations in everyone’s life or as they say “i am not like your other Ex’s. I am different”..LOL

 

[DesRicardo]

Wha????

 

[Jenesis]

When they say that …. You stop.

 

[speakercontrols]

ya...I have a high degree of self-acceptance. I've never said this nor ever heard it. It I figured she was uncomfortable, I never started.

 

[star003]

When they say that …. You stop.

really? what if the man says it? does that count?

 

[Jenesis]

really? what if the man says it? does that count?

Yes.

If she wants to stick a dildo up your ass and you say that, do you really think she should keep trying?????

Common sense here bud.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I dont think the OP means non consent.
Kind of like a girl who wants it but is too shy to say it maybe?
Cant say I have ever heard that said to me.
Maybe in my early teens when we were trying to not get caught. lol.
But never as an adult.

 

[star003]

I dont think the OP means non consent.
Kind of like a girl who wants it but is too shy to say it maybe?
Cant say I have ever heard that said to me.
Maybe in my early teens when we were trying to not get caught. lol.
But never as an adult.

thanks, for getting the essense of it. for a moment, it raised a self doubt in me that am I really that creepy and everyone else in this creepy forum is so well articulated gentlemen. keep the non consent scenario aside because then she won’t say we shouldn’t, she will first kick you balls.
otherwise, every relationship starts with such yes and no situation. some grows from there, some shuts down. don’t know if I need to explain it more.

 

[Jenesis]

I dont think the OP means non consent.
Kind of like a girl who wants it but is too shy to say it maybe?
Cant say I have ever heard that said to me.
Maybe in my early teens when we were trying to not get caught. lol.
But never as an adult.

I get that is what he is talking about, the answer is still stop.

Anything other then a yes is a no.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I get that is what he is talking about, the answer is still stop.

Anything other then a yes is a no.

I dont disagree with what you are saying.
But a lot of consent is non verbal so cant judge just by words.

 

[jalimon]

I dont disagree with what you are saying.
But a lot of consent is non verbal so cant judge just by words.

This is such an important sentence. Some girls i have met, especially around 17-19 years old were too shy to say no! So yes consent should also be read visually, positively or negatively.

 

[star003]

This is such an important sentence. Some girls i have met, especially around 17-19 years old were too shy to say no! So yes consent should also be read visually, positively or negatively.

just curious…do you have a girlfriend or any girl friend who is close enough to share that girl often wants the guy to take the lead and understand her hidden yes even when she says no?

 

[xmontrealer]

I always took "no" as "no". If I had any suspicion that the young lady was playing the "no means yes" game for whatever reason, I would simply explain to her that to me "no means no".

However, true story:

Way back in the 1980's I had been seeing a young lady in an "off and on" relationship for a couple of years. We would fight a lot, which is not my style, but it was hers. Maybe she liked "make up sex" more than I did.

Anyways, one time after I broke up with her she said she wanted to come over to my place and "talk". I said ok, and she came over. Soon after she arrived she started to initiate sex. I was kind of into it but knew there would be ensuing complications, so I resisted by saying "no, we shouldn't do this", even while we were making out. She was rubbing my dick though my pants, and when we finally progressed to my running my hand under her skirt up to her vagina, she was dripping with vagina juices more than I had ever experienced with her. We had amazing sex, and I think at least part of it was my resistance...

 

[Jenesis]

I dont disagree with what you are saying.
But a lot of consent is non verbal so cant judge just by words.

This is why you ask.

Sorry. This is just one of those hills I will die on.

 

[star003]

I always took "no" as "no". If I had any suspicion that the young lady was playing the "no means yes" game for whatever reason, I would simply explain to her that to me "no means no".

However, true story:

Way back in the 1980's I had been seeing a young lady in an "off and on" relationship for a couple of years. We would fight a lot, which is not my style, but it was hers. Maybe she liked "make up sex" more than I did.

Anyways, one time after I broke up with her she said she wanted to come over to my place and "talk". I said ok, and she came over. Soon after she arrived she started to initiate sex. I was kind of into it but knew there would be ensuing complications, so I resisted by saying "no, we shouldn't do this", even while we were making out. She was rubbing my dick though my pants, and when we finally progressed to my running my hand under her skirt up to her vagina, she was dripping with vagina juices more than I had ever experienced with her. We had amazing sex, and I think at least part of it was my resistance...

this is exxxactly what I was talking about. people who have never gone through this will never know and keep iterating the bookish knowledge of no means no. but reality is “No means Know”. and if you don’t know, then u r dumb. And those who know…knows exactly that whenever this tensed situation happens, the sex that follows after is awesome.