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richaceg

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War is never "clean", but carpet bombing churches is a lot worse than this.

Israel wants Gaza's territory. They're just choosing explosive demolition and foregoing the eviction process.
Who's calling the shots in Gaza? If the Israel campaign is motivated by freeing the hostages...why give them a reason to go to war? release the hostage and be done with it. But Hamas won't release the hostages...they'd rather see the Palestinians suffer...
 

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War is never "clean", but carpet bombing churches is a lot worse than this.

Israel wants Gaza's territory. They're just choosing explosive demolition and foregoing the eviction process.
Wrong - Israel disengaged from Gaza (Ariel Sharon) and despite violent protests from Israeli settlers, they were forced to leave Gaza. I get that Israel is no angel, but cmon on facts. One more hypothetical, that if Hamas had returned every hostage (dead or alive), this would have ended already.
 

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Simply not true. For years Israel has endured attacks by Hamas and other militant groups. Daily launching of rockets into Israeli territory. The evil attack in October 2023 was the last straw. I don't believe that the IDF is intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas does so blatantly. And I don't believe there are 60,000 non militant casualties either.
Hamas has killed about 1700 people since its inception in 1988.
Israel has likely killed about 400,000 people in the last two years alone as it wipes Palestine off the maps.
And still you think Israel are the victims.


 
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Who's calling the shots in Gaza? If the Israel campaign is motivated by freeing the hostages...why give them a reason to go to war? release the hostage and be done with it. But Hamas won't release the hostages...they'd rather see the Palestinians suffer...
Hamas and Israel made a deal and Hamas returned 105 hostages in 2024. Israel responded by ending negotiations to resume the genocide.
Genocide to clear Gaza for Israelis was always their goal, even if it means killing the hostages too.

 

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Wrong - Israel disengaged from Gaza (Ariel Sharon) and despite violent protests from Israeli settlers, they were forced to leave Gaza. I get that Israel is no angel, but cmon on facts. One more hypothetical, that if Hamas had returned every hostage (dead or alive), this would have ended already.
Netanyahu decided to end the hostage exchanges.
Not Hamas.

 

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Netanyahu decided to end the hostage exchanges.
Not Hamas.

Only because Hamas set terms that were not tenable. Want this over? Release the remaining hostages - Bibi can't fight world opinion (and likely his own citizens too) at that point. IMHFO
Hamas says it is ready to release all remaining hostages for an end to Gaza war | Reuters
 

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Only because Hamas set terms that were not tenable. Want this over? Release the remaining hostages - Bibi can't fight world opinion (and likely his own citizens too) at that point. IMHFO
Hamas says it is ready to release all remaining hostages for an end to Gaza war | Reuters
You think the genocide should never end and asking it to end is 'untenable'?
Sounds like you want a final solution.



 

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You fabricated his statement...now post the whole statement and apologize.
Holy shit, rich.
I posted the article with the quote and it says exactly what I said it does.
Smotrich says he would starve 2 million people to death except he knows the global outrage would destroy Israel.

And still they are starving 2 million people to death today and you are here defending it as if its not happening.

 
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richaceg

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Holy shit, rich.
I posted the article with the quote and it says exactly what I said it does.
Smotrich says he would starve 2 million people to death except he knows the global outrage would destroy Israel.

And still they are starving 2 million people to death today and you are here defending it as if its not happening.

just like what phil posted...Hamas is controlling everything...keep crying...
 
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