This Covid thing is something else

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The reality here is that no vaccine is 100%. So, he unfortunately had a breakthrough infection, and died. It will happen again. The thing is, those without the vaccine have a significantly higher chance of catching this disease and having the worst outcome.

This is just an attempt at disinformation. It might convince more people that the vaccine doesn't work, leading to more deaths. Ironically, if we had enough vaccinated people for herd immunity, this would not be an issue because the virus would have burned itself out...
 
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silentkisser said:
The reality here is that no vaccine is 100%. So, he unfortunately had a breakthrough infection, and died. It will happen again. The thing is, those without the vaccine have a significantly higher chance of catching this disease and having the worst outcome.

This is just an attempt at disinformation. It might convince more people that the vaccine doesn't work, leading to more deaths. Ironically, if we had enough vaccinated people for herd immunity, this would not be an issue because the virus would have burned itself out...
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It's not disinformation, darling. It's straight news.
 
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silentkisser said:
The reality here is that no vaccine is 100%. So, he unfortunately had a breakthrough infection, and died. It will happen again. The thing is, those without the vaccine have a significantly higher chance of catching this disease and having the worst outcome.

This is just an attempt at disinformation. It might convince more people that the vaccine doesn't work, leading to more deaths. Ironically, if we had enough vaccinated people for herd immunity, this would not be an issue because the virus would have burned itself out...
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What type of a vaccine doesn't stop the disease?...Chicken pox, small pox, polio etc etc...take those shots and you have higher than 90% not to get infected...how would you know the vaccine work? or was it the mask or the social distancing? Vaccine is suppose to protect you from exposure...I'm double vaxxed btw...
 
The article supposes that he caught covid at the Emmys, it could have been at the airport there or back, plane there or back, restaurants, after parties, other venues, hotel, Uber or whatever transportation he took.
Were there any other Emmy attendees who tested positive after the awards to make the writer of the article come to the conclusion that "It appears the award ceremony full of ‘sophisticated, vaccinated people’ turned out to be a deadly super spreader."
I will admit that I agree with what Seth Rogan said at the beginning of the show.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...ke-more-covid-19-precautions/?sh=7aa986aa68d8
 
richaceg said:
What type of a vaccine doesn't stop the disease?...Chicken pox, small pox, polio etc etc...take those shots and you have higher than 90% not to get infected...how would you know the vaccine work? or was it the mask or the social distancing? Vaccine is suppose to protect you from exposure...I'm double vaxxed btw...
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All those vaccines you mentioned are not 100%. But we have herd immunity, so those where the vaccine doesn't work don't get exposed to the disease. Since the anit-vaxx movement started about 15 years or so ago, we've seen a surge in reported cases of things like the mumps and measles. But, keep in mind, the population is still at something like 95% or higher for the vaccine.

For Covid, we have about 20-25% who are not vaccinated. A portion of them are also anti-mask/anti-social distancing/lockdowns. So, they are ideal carriers. They can spread it to people who are double vaxxed. The vaxxed people might also be over confident and not mask or keep distant. Basically, there is still a lot of the virus out there, and Delta is easier to transmit. The Covid vaccine is working. People who have it are still less likely to get sick (I mean, in all the new cases it's something like 15-20% are vaxxed), and even less likely to need hospitalization or end up dying.

Bottom line: if a significant portion of the population is unvaccinated, there is still a serious threat for everyone. It doesn't matter if it's polio, measles or covid.
 
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richaceg said:
What type of a vaccine doesn't stop the disease?...Chicken pox, small pox, polio etc etc...take those shots and you have higher than 90% not to get infected...how would you know the vaccine work? or was it the mask or the social distancing? Vaccine is suppose to protect you from exposure...I'm double vaxxed btw...
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So yes, no vaccine gives 100% protection. Strange that you admit that while still arguing this (and how is a vaccine supposed to protect you from being exposed to a virus? Does it cause lasers to fire from your eyes every time it detects viral particles in the air?).

The success of vaccines is related to the individual efficacy as well as herd immunity.
 
silentkisser said:
The reality here is that no vaccine is 100%. So, he unfortunately had a breakthrough infection, and died. It will happen again. The thing is, those without the vaccine have a significantly higher chance of catching this disease and having the worst outcome.

This is just an attempt at disinformation. It might convince more people that the vaccine doesn't work, leading to more deaths. Ironically, if we had enough vaccinated people for herd immunity, this would not be an issue because the virus would have burned itself out...
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A complete fallacious statement. Vaccines will not give us herd immunity.
 
silentkisser said:
Gateway Pundit is not straight news. They have a right-wing agenda.
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Everyone has a right wing agenda. So what is this agenda. That all of a sudden white racists want to eradicated the world of vaccines and other medical advancements.
 
1 death vs 700,000 deaths. Hmm....Not sure what to do...

This idea that you toss out something because it's not perfect is just wrong. Not all smokers get lung cancer. Not all overweright people get diabetes. Not all people respond to blood pressure medicine. Or chickenpox vaccines.
 
basketcase said:
So yes, no vaccine gives 100% protection. Strange that you admit that while still arguing this (and how is a vaccine supposed to protect you from being exposed to a virus? Does it cause lasers to fire from your eyes every time it detects viral particles in the air?).

The success of vaccines is related to the individual efficacy as well as herd immunity.
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Bottom line is vaccine alone won't guarantee you won't get COVID....wearing a mask won't guarantee you won't get covid...there's no factual number that proves which one works....
 
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