They are GOP, hear them roar

danmand

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They are GOP, hear them roar

The attacks of Republican candidates on women's health may make their chances at victory impossible.

Republican candidates seem to have no idea how many demographic groups they are isolating [GALLO/GETTY]


Columbus, OH - As I watch this Republican presidential primary season proceed in a manner roughly consistent with the course of the Costa Concordia, it has led me to a suspicion I feel honour-bound to share: I think the Republicans are throwing this thing. I'm not yet sure why. It could be that it better sets them up for a president they actually want in 2016, or that Mitt Romney made a $10,000 bet against himself, or that there's some sort of a sweater-vest endorsement deal in it for Rick Santorum.

As I said, I'm not sure why. What I am sure of however, is that they can't really be trying to win. The thing about elections is that to win them you need voters willing to, you know, vote for you. And at the current rate the Republican Party is going, they may have to start resuscitating every dead white male since the Whiskey Rebellion to have any shot at winning outside of Utah, or a Gingrich-family-settled lunar colony.

One day last week, taken by itself, was stunning.

On the heels of the Tea Party takeover of the Susan G Komen Foundation, the GOP managed to make it exceedingly clear to the vast majority of women that their concerns measure somewhere on a scale between those of chattel and Charlie Sheen. In Virginia, Governor Bob McDonnell signed both the insane Personhood Amendment and a bill passed by the state's legislature that will force many women to submit to an "invasive, transvaginal ultrasound before seeking an abortion".

How about this, Bob, next time you or your friends go and get your health-plan covered Viagra, you submit to a catheter? Deal, sport? In New Hampshire, a female Republican legislator, no less - to the amazement of an onlooking medical professional - suggested that a woman's use of birth control can cause cancer. Prostate cancer. In men. I'm not joking.

Aspirin between the knees?

Not to be outdone, car-thief turned car-alarm gazillionaire Representative Darrell Issa held a hearing on health care plans and birth control coverage on Capitol Hill. Who was qualified to talk there, according to Issa? A bunch of old white men. Who wasn't? A Georgetown University Law Student (or any other woman) who lost an ovary, ostensibly because the health plans of her university (a Catholic one) don't cover birth control.

Meanwhile, Representative Jeff Miller of Florida thinks covering birth control would hurt homeless veterans. How would it do that? Apparently only Rep Jeff Miller of Florida knows. But I'm positive raising taxes one per cent on those making more than $10,000,000 a year to get homeless military veterans off the streets is something Miller would support, because he cares so much about them.

But the proverbial cake, as it were, was taken by general right-wing uber-nut and big Rick Santorum supporter Foster Freiss. He told Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that birth control wasn't that expensive. Why, all women needed to do was hold an aspirin between their knees! Get it? I think Freiss' pre-9/11 mentality is showing - pre 9/11/1901.

Now as someone who thinks the Republican Right in our current day in age is a cue ball short of a game of pool, I watch with bemusement. A recent Democracy Corps poll - a Democratic outfit to be sure, but one that has honestly predicted Democratic Party woes in the past - has found that the Republican Party brand is "in a state of collapse" with 50 per cent of voters having a negative feeling about it.

Not surprisingly, the poll found that voters who gave Democrats their huge victories in 2006 and 2008 are returning to the fold, led by "a resurgence and re-engagement of unmarried women". Gee, I wonder what could be leading to that?

Tied in with Republican attacks on social security and immigrants, the older white vote and Hispanic vote might pose some interesting challenges too. Luckily, like the female vote, I can't think of any states [Florida] where those voters [Nevada] might be important at all [Arizona] in the 2012 presidential election.

Cliff Schecter is the President of Libertas, LLC, a progressive public relations firm, and the author of the 2008 bestseller The Real McCain.
 

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I take it these aren't your words. Just a guess.

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Glad to see you finally gave clear credit to the writer instead of hiding it.
 
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Aardvark154

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The attacks of Republican candidates on women's health may make their chances at victory impossible.
Certainly that may be the case. However, what does the rest of the article have to do with making that point?

A Florida State legislator says something.

Virginia enacts an Abortion Law that may be held Unconstitutional

A financial backer says something stupid
 

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Certainly that may be the case. However, what does the rest of the article have to do with making that point?

A Florida State legislator says something.

Virginia enacts an Abortion Law that may be held Unconstitutional

A financial backer says something stupid
Well, if you want something that addresses it, how about congressional Republicans holding a hearing on contraception last week and forgetting to actually invite any women in on the discussion. Talk about stupid.
 

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Well, if you want something that addresses it, how about congressional Republicans holding a hearing on contraception last week and forgetting to actually invite any women in on the discussion. Talk about stupid.
Although I don't know the details as you describe it yes.

However, how many people make their choice as to whom to vote for in a Presidential election based on what a Congressional committee did or did not do?
 

blackrock13

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Holy Fuck, lock the doors and get down in the root cellar Ethel, Santorum has a 10 point lead on Romney. Hahahahah!
 

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Holy Fuck, lock the doors and get down in the root cellar Ethel, Santorum has a 10 point lead on Romney. Hahahahah!
Republicans might have finally have figured out that who ever the media hates is the one Obama fears the most, that day.
 

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Republicans might have finally have figured out that who ever the media hates is the one Obama fears the most, that day.
I don't they hate him, certainly not as much as Newt, but they do shake their collective heads in disbelief in the things that come out of his mouth.
 

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However, how many people make their choice as to whom to vote for in a Presidential election based on what a Congressional committee did or did not do?
Indeed!!!
Far better they base their decision on what their ministers, pastors, bishops and pope tell them, eh....:biggrin1:
 

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Holy Fuck, lock the doors and get down in the root cellar Ethel, Santorum has a 10 point lead on Romney. Hahahahah!
Depends on which poll you read. I've seen some recent polls that had Santorum leading by just 4 points, and another that had them tied. The only thing for sure is that Romney is slowly gaining ground. Whether or not he has enough time is something else. God pity the poor people of Michigan in the final week when Romney's advertising money really hits the fan.
 

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The fact that Santorum has gotten ANY consideration tells you everything you need to know about the present state of the party of Lincoln.
 

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Can anyone imagine these words coming from either Romney or Santorum.

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
 

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Can anyone imagine these words coming from either Romney or Santorum.

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
Oddly enough, Lincoln thought he had failed. He had wriiten it himself during the train ride to Gettysburg, and after having delivered the two minute speech, sat down next to a friend of his and said, "That speech won't scour". Which is what they used to say about a plow when the mud wouldn't come off. Opposition Democratic newspapers slamed him, saying we should be ashammed to have a president that uttered such "simplistic dishwatery language". This the speech that ultimately became likely the most succint, and one of the greatest, in all of politics.
 

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Oddly enough, Lincoln thought he had failed. He had wriiten it himself during the train ride to Gettysburg, and after having delivered the two minute speech, sat down next to a friend of his and said, "That speech won't scour". Which is what they used to say about a plow when the mud wouldn't come off. Opposition Democratic newspapers slamed him, saying we should be ashammed to have a president that uttered such "simplistic dishwatery language". This the speech that ultimately became likely the most succint, and one of the greatest, in all of politics.
A great detail of effort went into uncovering this exposé of what really went on at Gettyburg.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVLOiFOBftc&feature=player_detailpage
 

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The fact that Santorum has gotten ANY consideration tells you everything you need to know about the present state of the party of Lincoln.
Rick wants to be the Waterboy POTUS!!!.....:D
 

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Thanks to the help of Super Threader Anabrandy, it's amazing how fast some topics get pushed into the back pages, page #3, so I tought i'd bring iot back with some coverage of the Leadership Campaign.


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Isn't it amazing how nothing is being posted about the snooze fest called the GOP leadership campaign. After 20+ leadership debates, even the most avid/rabid supporters are hibernating, Then we have the 'wait 'til 2016' tactic. In an arena where 6 months down the road is an eternity, 4 years is in the next universe.

Super Tuesday with more delegates at staked, I believe 400, than everyone today combined should be interesting. 4 days and counting.
 

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on the other hand , if Romney gets the nomination, I look forward to the poster showing Obama driving to Toronto with Mitt tied to the roof of his car.
 

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It is AMAZING how the usual crickets are silent on the 4 stooges running for POTUS!!!

They should be proudly proclaiming how these 4 Goofballs will show real GOPer leadership!!!....:D
 

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Romney, Santorum, Gingrich and Paul are indeed a weak field, so far none has articulated a positive vision. The USA requires a substantial re ordering of their national agenda. I personally like Ron Pauls spending cuts which are REAL cuts, not just a slowdown in the growth rate of spending. Govt Spending has to be no more than 18 to 20% of GDP for the economy to grow. Revenues should be around the same, slight deficits are Ok as there is enough global wealth and demand for interest bearing securities to fund some debt but not at the extreme levels we see today. Romney nor Santorum will get the country where it needs to be. Gingrich has a better plan but he doesnt have the institutional support necessary to be effective (wonder why?) which is why he is trying to appeal to the grass roots

Obama on the other hand is driving the country into the grave. 25, 26 % of GDP govt spending is taking its toll and the unfunded liabs are just sitting there waiting to drag on the real economy even more, at an increasing rate. Obamas supporters are not going to allow him to make the necessary changes and in fact may force him even further in the wrong direction.

So here is a question>>>> is there anyone out there who would make a fantastic President? who could actually bring the citizenry together and lead the country on a sound track in a manner that is not too punitive. what is it going to take for that person to emerge?? can it even be a politician??
 
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