There Will Be a One-State Solution

[jcpro]

In a one state they will whine and bitch like Quebec and Alberta instead of firing rockets.

That assumes that the Jew hating is reasonable position that can evolve. Willing to bet your life on it?

 

[jcpro]

Another message from a proud member of Our Lady of Perpetual Victimhood.

Oh, you don't care for Jews, either? What you say, none is too many?

 

[Frankfooter]

Ah, no. The Gazans have a choice how to conduct their relations with Israel. They've made it. Now, let us share a tear for a terrorist.

How have the chosen to live under blockade for 10 years, in the world's largest open air prison?

When and how did they 'choose' to live in a place that the UN says will become 'unliveable' next year under Israeli military occupation?

 

[nottyboi]

That assumes that the Jew hating is reasonable position that can evolve. Willing to bet your life on it?

Anti-semitism and arab hating is all predicated on division of wealth, just like the whining in Canada. Its just that there is no means for dialogue or resolution other then war. If a greater Israel was formed and Palis were given a stake and a future, while massive investments were made in advancing their material well being, the animousity would decline and over a period of time dissipate to the kind of whining we see in Canada. A single secular state would also go a long way to ensuring the state of Israel ceases to be a target and ensures its long term security. Of course this will take a min 20 years but probably more like 50-80 years.

 

[Liminal]

Oh, you don't care for Jews, either? What you say, none is too many?

This message brought to by a simpering member of Our Lady of Perpetual Victimhood. Alway make narcissistic victimhood your standard diversion. Wallow in victimhood.

 

[nottyboi]

“The Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, said on Sunday: “Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people – and only it.”

Echoes of George Wallace.

When people say stuff like this you know they are thinking otherwise.

 

[Frankfooter]

That assumes that the Jew hating is reasonable position that can evolve. Willing to bet your life on it?

Oh, you don't care for Jews, either? What you say, none is too many?

Unconditional support for Israel means supporting a government that makes common cause with racist and supremacist groups within Israel, and authoritarian and xenophobic governments around the world including those in Hungary, the Philippines, India and Brazil.

Unconditional support for Israel means supporting Israel’s 9 billion-dollar arms industry, which assists authoritarian governments and repressive police and armies around the world.

Unconditional support for Israel means supporting racist policies in Israel which have incarcerated or expelled asylum seekers, many from African nations.

Unconditional support for Israel means approval for shocking acts of settler violence, many of which go unpunished, against Palestinians and their property.

Unconditional support for Israel means support for the killing of over 200 and the maiming of almost 30,000 Palestinians in response to the Great March of Return.

Unconditional support for Israel means supporting the system of legal discrimination inside Israel which includes more than 50 laws that discriminate against Palestinians citizens of Israel, among them the nation-state law that says that only Jews are entitled to the right to self-determination, ignoring the rights of the 21% of Israeli citizens who are Palestinian Arabs.

Unconditional support for Israel means supporting the arrest, , prosecution and incarceration of approximately 500-700 Palestinian children every year with 205 Palestinian minors currently in custody.

Unconditional support for Israel means support for roadblocks that keep Palestinians from accessing hospitals, schools, workplaces and holy sites.

Unconditional support for Israel means supporting policies which keep 1.6 million Palestinians, including 68% of the population of Gaza, from having the financial means to access nutritious food.

Unconditional support for Israel means supporting Jewish communal efforts to shut down freedom of expression on violations of human rights in Israel-Palestine and the granting of lavish funding to groups which celebrate Israel while ignoring, denying or excusing decades of colonial policies and violations of international and human rights law.

 

[onthebottom]

Yesterday the Palestinian Arabs fired rockets into Israel, again. In the event of a one state, will this be considered a friendly fire?

A crime

 

[jcpro]

Anti-semitism and arab hating is all predicated on division of wealth, just like the whining in Canada. Its just that there is no means for dialogue or resolution other then war. If a greater Israel was formed and Palis were given a stake and a future, while massive investments were made in advancing their material well being, the animousity would decline and over a period of time dissipate to the kind of whining we see in Canada. A single secular state would also go a long way to ensuring the state of Israel ceases to be a target and ensures its long term security. Of course this will take a min 20 years but probably more like 50-80 years.

Secular state, eh? You have a pill that will make the Muslims forsake Muhammad or the Jews the Torah? Maybe a shot of some kind that will prevent individuals from donning the explosive vests? Stylish but lethal. Btw, if the Palis in Gaza cared about their material well being, they would have done something about it a long time ago. They might have a future in the space program, though.

 

[jcpro]

Well my Palestinian mass murder supporting friend, Israeli Jews aren't the ones experiencing most of the violence, its Palestinians.
The stats show that for every Israeli Jew killed about 10 Palestinians are killed while living under a brutal, apartheid occupation of their homeland.

Palestinians are the victims there, not Jews.
https://www.btselem.org/statistics

Its not a war, its a 50 year old occupation rooted in racist, colonial beliefs that has now turned into the world's second apartheid state.
Every day Israel announces more land taken, more settlers living in what should have been Palestine and more people killed or injured for protesting this.
And you really think Jews are the victims?

Sheesh.

Don't want the horn, don't bait the bull.

 

[basketcase]

And how many approve of the present apartheid system?
You think that's more popular?

How many of them believe your lies?

Bot's elitism is of the 'nuke the region' variety. Your racist elitism is 'who cares what the Palestinians want' variety as long as it leads to Israel's destruction.

 

[basketcase]

Adamantly opposed, not sure how you measure that,....

By things like polling?

Palestinian polling agencies have been reporting that opposition to a one state solution has been pretty steady at 70% for as long as they've been publishing data.

 

[onthebottom]

How many of them believe your lies?

Bot's elitism is of the 'nuke the region' variety. Your racist elitism is 'who cares what the Palestinians want' variety and you only care if it leads to Israel's destruction.

I’ve never said the region should be nuked, I’ve said we should leave the region because it’s an irrelevant shit hole. I’m anti nuking anyone.

 

[basketcase]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...round-as-palestinians-battle-for-equal-rights

No wonder Israel is opposed to the one state solution. Listen to what the far right Netanyahu said about it:

Do you ever listen to what leaders on the Palestinian side have to say about it? If your are going to criticize one side for it, I would hope you would criticize the other (who often advocate far worse than what Netanyahu is quoted as saying).

 

[basketcase]

On Friday, a...

As usual you make excuses to war crimes and indiscriminate attacks on civilians but complain that people at a violent protest were hurt. Hmm.

 

[onthebottom]

By things like polling?

Palestinian polling agencies have been reporting that opposition to a one state solution has been pretty steady at 70% for as long as they've been publishing data.

Then perhaps you should provide some.

 

[basketcase]

Gaza is not its own entity, its under Israeli military rule and occupation. The only points in and out are controlled by Israel ..

A military occupation without a single member of the military occupying it? And as usual you refuse to hold Arabs accountable for their actions as Egypt also closes its border.

It is the only time in the history of the world that despite a war and one country wanting to destroy the other, the second country still supplies the first with essentials and routinely allows people to cross the border. In the case of Iran, you complain about how sanctions hurt the Iranian people but here you complain that Israel allows everything in except those things which could be used to attack Israel and don't raise the slightest complaint when Hamas steals aid meant for those people.

 

[basketcase]

How have the chosen to live under blockade for 10 years,...

Their "elected" leaders made that choice. There was no blockade until Hamas used Israel's withdrawal from Gaza as an excuse to launch further attacks.

 

[basketcase]

...A single secular state would also go a long way to ensuring the state of Israel ceases to be a target and ensures its long term security. Of course this will take a min 20 years but probably more like 50-80 years.

And how do you plan to convince the Palestinian leadership, especially those in Hamas and Islamic Jihad?

 

[basketcase]

...Unconditional support for Israel ...

Funny coming from a guy who is unconditionally opposed to everything about Israel.

Most of us have no problem recognizing Israel's flaws, the settler movement high on that list. The issue it your outright racist agenda of wanting Israel eliminated and willingness to excuse absolutely horrendous acts to achieve that aim..