The Wealthy Do Pay Their Fair Share

FatOne

Banned
Nov 20, 2006
3,474
1
0
90% tax rate. Let us be honest with ourselves here. Might as well put the rich in black face, put chains on them and have them pick cotton.
Anyone who advocates a 90% tax rate is consumed with such a combo of envy or greed that they no longer see the rich as human beings but as slaves.
 

Asterix

Sr. Member
Aug 6, 2002
10,025
0
0
90% tax rate. Let us be honest with ourselves here. Might as well put the rich in black face, put chains on them and have them pick cotton.
Anyone who advocates a 90% tax rate is consumed with such a combo of envy or greed that they no longer see the rich as human beings but as slaves.
Not sure how you equate the rich to black face or slaves but I'll let that go because it's beyond ignorant. The question is, is the US stronger with a more equal distribution of wealth or not? Are we better as a nation that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer?

The only way we can deal with this is through the tax code. And therein lies the rub. Politicians won't go after this as long as they keep being paid. Campaign finance reform is the only way this will change, and I'm not optimistic. We seem to be spiraling down.
 

Aardvark154

New member
Jan 19, 2006
53,744
3
0
therein lies the rub. Politicians won't go after this as long as they keep being paid.
Under this logic you seemingly should be a whole hearted supporter of the Tea Party Caucus in the House of Representatives, since almost none of them are "politicians," many come from humble backgrounds and seeminly all have no great love of corporate America nor of big government.
 

Asterix

Sr. Member
Aug 6, 2002
10,025
0
0
Under this logic you seemingly should be a whole hearted supporter of the Tea Party Caucus in the House of Representatives, since almost none of them are "politicians," many come from humble backgrounds and seeminly all have no great love of corporate America nor of big government.
You're beyond reaching. We have to take the monied interests out of politics. Otherwise we no longer have free speech. We have bought speech.
 

onthebottom

Never Been Justly Banned
Jan 10, 2002
40,818
151
63
Hooterville
www.scubadiving.com
OK. So how do we square that with an economy largely driven by consumerism? And further, as I asked both you and Aardvark, isn't the increasing disparity damaging us as a nation?
Two simple concepts for you to ponder:

- if someone has more money than you do it doesn't mean that you have less money.
- what damages us as a Nation is when we become envious of another's success and our response isn't to work harder but to take what someone else has earned.

OTB
 

FatOne

Banned
Nov 20, 2006
3,474
1
0
Not sure how you equate the rich to black face or slaves but I'll let that go because it's beyond ignorant. The question is, is the US stronger with a more equal distribution of wealth or not? Are we better as a nation that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer?

The only way we can deal with this is through the tax code. And therein lies the rub. Politicians won't go after this as long as they keep being paid. Campaign finance reform is the only way this will change, and I'm not optimistic. We seem to be spiraling down.
Who was equating the rich to slaves. I was obviously equating a 90% tax rates to slavery. I guess I am not ignorant, you are just kinda on the dumb side.
At 90% you might as well burn their womenfolk, eat their babies and rape their livestock.

Odds are I am poorer than you and just about everyone on Terb, except for Fuji of course. Even I can see the ethical problems with taking 90% of a persons income. Hell they don't even go anywhere near that in the Nordic countries and they know a thing or two about raising taxes in a high tax environment and income equalization. I could also question some of your other statements, but then you would just respond with some foolishness and I really couldn't be bothered. I will say that your analysis leaves out a lot, some of which your debating opponents have neglected to mention.
 

WoodPeckr

Protuberant Member
May 29, 2002
47,009
5,823
113
North America
thewoodpecker.net
bottie is a funny fellow

- if someone has more money than you do it doesn't mean that you have less money.
WTF?!?!?!!!?

When did you start quoting Yogi Berra....or JAJA???....:D

Did you learn that in business school?
 

onthebottom

Never Been Justly Banned
Jan 10, 2002
40,818
151
63
Hooterville
www.scubadiving.com
WTF?!?!?!!!?

When did you start quoting Yogi Berra....or JAJA???....:D

Did you learn that in business school?
I know you don't get that, that's one (of many) reason you're such an idiot.

OTB
 

toguy5252

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2009
15,859
6,009
113
Would someone try and get real here. The Bush tax cuts amounted to a decrease from 39% to 36.9%. Is someone seriously suggesting that this is too great a burden when the top 2% of taxpayers received something like 60 of the increase in wealth in the last several years. Those rates are before all of the deductions and loopholes etc.
 

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
46,972
5,588
113
Gee and you wonder why so many are upset about out of control spending in Washington?
I don't wonder about that. I wonder why so many only noticed the out of control spending in Washington after Obama was sworn in.
 

WoodPeckr

Protuberant Member
May 29, 2002
47,009
5,823
113
North America
thewoodpecker.net

Asterix

Sr. Member
Aug 6, 2002
10,025
0
0
Two simple concepts for you to ponder:

- if someone has more money than you do it doesn't mean that you have less money.


OTB
Ah, something akin to a rising tide lifts all boats bs. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining OTB.
 

WoodPeckr

Protuberant Member
May 29, 2002
47,009
5,823
113
North America
thewoodpecker.net
I know you don't get that, that's one (of many) reason you're such an idiot.

OTB
When it comes to being an idiot, don't sell yourself short bottie.
After all YOU were the one waxing JAJAesque.

Guess in your case....the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree...:eyebrows:
 

onthebottom

Never Been Justly Banned
Jan 10, 2002
40,818
151
63
Hooterville
www.scubadiving.com
Would someone try and get real here. The Bush tax cuts amounted to a decrease from 39% to 36.9%. Is someone seriously suggesting that this is too great a burden when the top 2% of taxpayers received something like 60 of the increase in wealth in the last several years. Those rates are before all of the deductions and loopholes etc.
And the AMT....

If we want to get very real the "repeal the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy" isn't going to go very far if it's really focused on the "wealthy". Want to make an impact, change the FICA withholding so that it actually covers the cost of Social Security and Medicare/aid..... say another 2% on everyone....

OTB
 

onthebottom

Never Been Justly Banned
Jan 10, 2002
40,818
151
63
Hooterville
www.scubadiving.com
Ah, something akin to a rising tide lifts all boats bs. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining OTB.
Are you too stupid to understand those very simple concepts or too disingenuous to discuss them.

OTB
 

Asterix

Sr. Member
Aug 6, 2002
10,025
0
0
Are you too stupid to understand those very simple concepts or too disingenuous to discuss them.

OTB
Are you too stupid to understand the rich are getting richer in the US and the poor are getting poorer, or too disingenuous to admit it?
 
Toronto Escorts